Guest Eagan469 Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Piper Vince For those who haven't seen them.
Murmuring Beast Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince seemed pretty pissed off. Was that a work?
Guest CronoT Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince seemed pretty pissed off. Was that a work? You obviously don't know about Vince's temper and his reputation for eating people alive who piss him off.
Murmuring Beast Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 That was an extremely childish interview.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 I can't feel that bad for full grown men making bad decisions.
Guest Downhome Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Piper must be one of the biggest fools alive to do this while still in WWE. Still, I'd like to see an unedited version of this interview, as what is right here is chopped up in a ton of places.
Murmuring Beast Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 I feel sorry for Piper. He was honest about not liking himself after all the things he did in wrestling. I admire him for telling the truth. He's a legend who couldn't say no.
Guest Downhome Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 I feel sorry for Piper. He was honest about not liking himself after all the things he did in wrestling. I admire him for telling the truth. He's a legend who couldn't say no. I respect him for being honest also, most wouldn't say the things he did. I do however consider him a fool for doing so while still being signed to WWE. He must have thought he was working the angle with Vince even outside of the ring, heh.
Guest HartFan86 Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Damn, I wish I was at my Dad's on broadband so I could download these...how long will they be up, Eagan?
Guest Eagan469 Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Damn, I wish I was at my Dad's on broadband so I could download these...how long will they be up, Eagan? these are from another site, actually - so as long as that guy keeps them up
Guest Fook_Hing_Ho Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Piper must be one of the biggest fools alive to do this while still in WWE. Still, I'd like to see an unedited version of this interview, as what is right here is chopped up in a ton of places. I heard that half of Piper's interview was before he was rehired by Vince and half was afterwards, so the fact that they had two separate sessions with Piper is probably why it's so chopped up.
Murmuring Beast Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 If Vince's reactions in that interview are anything to go by, I'd reckon the guy is ill. He is a paranoid worrier who doesn't feel comfortable until everyone who could be a potential threat is working for him.
Guest OnlyMe Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince came over REALLY badly... he tried to act innocent, but came away looking guilty as hell Which is stupid, since there's a voice over at the end that states: "Certainly nobody blames McMahon or any other organisation for these deaths"
Guest MentallyNormal Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Piper must be one of the biggest fools alive to do this while still in WWE. Still, I'd like to see an unedited version of this interview, as what is right here is chopped up in a ton of places. Well that is probably because the interview was part of Real Sports about pro wrestlers dying young. So he just chopped up all the parts where Piper speaks in the story. Or probably what Fook Hing Ho said
Guest Eagan469 Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Yeah, the guy who made these 2 videos just extracted the Piper and Vince footage from the special and put it all together, there isn't any extra footage of Piper and Vince that he left out.
Guest Dynamite Kido Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince is a goddamn jackass!!!! I honestly believe the only reason why he brought back Piper in the first place was because he wanted him to job to Hogan (because he never was pinned by Hogan before). Vince is a COWARD and a SCUMBAG. Anybody that thinks anything good about McMahon(personally, not about him being a business man, because he is a great one) is honestly a zombie to the "WWE style".......
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince always thinks he has to get the last word in and if he feels threatened he tries to get a little physically threatening (this interview and the first one with Costas). He has to realize that if he stays calm he has an out on just about every allegation.
Guest NoCalMike Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince came off looking like a scumbag, but then again, maybe that is what he wants in order to further his on-air heel persona!?!
Guest Nevermortal Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 And they fired this guy. Fucking cocksuckers. FUCK YOU, VINCE.
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince HAS BECOME Mr. McMahon. Period. Piper I felt bad for since he was honest and it was heartfelt but he still got canned.
Guest mach7 Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Vince came off looking like a scumbag, but then again, maybe that is what he wants in order to further his on-air heel persona!?! Newsflash, heel persona or not, Vince McMahon IS a scumbag.
Guest godthedog Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 piper i have some sympathy for, but he's putting way too much blame on the shoulders of the promoters. NOBODY forced these guys to become professional wrestlers. that's THEIR choice--if they love the business so much they want to wade through the promoter bullshit and the injuries and the broken families and the drugs, then so be it. of course the promoters are evil little sons of bitches, but why don't they just get out of it? piper's made a good living off of acting and public appearances, why not go back to that? hell, why not learn a trade? why go back to the business if you hate it so much?
Guest AndrewTS Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Piper must be one of the biggest fools alive to do this while still in WWE. Still, I'd like to see an unedited version of this interview, as what is right here is chopped up in a ton of places. No, Piper's quite smart. To the media he'll look like a saint they way they'd spin something like this related to Vince. I think Piper will try to use this to his advantage to screw over Vince and get the media and advertisers on his ass. He expects to get the last laugh, I'm assuming.
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 I like Piper in the past, but if living the wrestling life is so hard on him, shouldn't he have given it up in 1995? I agree with Vince's position (he simply signs their checks and shouldn't have to babysit these guys unless it actually interferes with their job) but his tantrum makes it difficult to do so.
Guest JRE Posted July 2, 2003 Report Posted July 2, 2003 Honestly, they must have filmed atleast an hour of McMahon talking. And they aired him getting angry. Pffft, HBO stoops low.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted July 3, 2003 Report Posted July 3, 2003 Piper uses his celebrity status to try and further what he feels is wrong with the business. I think he's going for an "ends justify the means" type thing, but he's not going to get the end that he's looking for. Vince loves to talk about how his promotion is the best, and the only one that ever mattered. He loves to point out how he is the one responsible for the boom of wrestling. We all know that and please don't tell me he doesn't. He simply doesn't say it bluntly, so that he can get away with saying, "we're not the only promotion. We weren't the biggest promotion(obvious lie). We're the only one left now, but that doesn't mean that we were the only ones back than." Interesting....
Guest Downhome Posted July 3, 2003 Report Posted July 3, 2003 Piper must be one of the biggest fools alive to do this while still in WWE. Still, I'd like to see an unedited version of this interview, as what is right here is chopped up in a ton of places. No, Piper's quite smart. To the media he'll look like a saint they way they'd spin something like this related to Vince. I think Piper will try to use this to his advantage to screw over Vince and get the media and advertisers on his ass. He expects to get the last laugh, I'm assuming. So you feel he wanted to get fired/not be re-hired by WWE and he did this on purpose to get that result?
Guest Blue Bacchus Posted July 3, 2003 Report Posted July 3, 2003 Vince slapping/lunging at the interviewer was kind of scary/funny. It's either roid rage, paranoia, or a work here. But I can understand his anger, the guy was basically calling him a murderer. Vince may be a scumbag but he's no babysitter. When your raised as a child you are taught right from wrong. I know since I've been around I've always been told that drugs are bad, Mmm'kay. I'm sure that these guys knew right from wrong. They just decided to go down the wrong path. I haven't seen the Costas interview yet but maybe I should now. Piper's portion was kinda heartbreaking. It's sad to hear that he hates himself for what he's become, but at the same time who is to blame? Piper choose the lifestyle. Hopefully he'll get to 65 and draw retirement.
Guest EdwardKnoxII Posted July 4, 2003 Report Posted July 4, 2003 This subject seems to have died off, but according to 1wrestling it was HBO's editing. "It's not really up for debate whether Vince McMahon came across poorly on the recent HBO "Real Sports" special on "Deaths in Pro Wrestling". As anyone who saw the show knows, Vince appeared to get agitated and then knocked papers out of the hand of reporter Armen Keteyian. Many wondered whether Vince was working his "Mr. McMahon" character or if he was genuinely upset. From what I have heard from someone who has intimate knowledge of the interview, it was the latter. Vince had been asked the same questions over and over for about a half hour and then finally snapped. Of course, HBO then grabbed that footage and aired it. From what I heard, he did try and answer the questions factually before hand, but that footage never made air. It's a shame too because Vince had the facts on his side." Assuming that's true, I wonder if they filmed this themselves, the way they used to do with other mainstream interviews. That's how they were able to prove that 20/20 doctored Mick Foley's comments, because they put the unedited interview up on their website. The entire HBO interview could make for an interesting Confidential episode.
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