Backstage Fights

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

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I was going through the Wrestling Professor's site, and I came upon the Backstage Fights section. I found it informative, a couple fights I didn't know about. like the Shawn Michaels-Harris Bros. fight, the Albano-Shane McMahon incident, or the Haku-Jimmy Jack fight. I say, since he already has a good list going, maybe we can help him out with some more info.

 

http://www.wrestlingprofessor.com/BackstageFights.html

 

Backstage Fights

 

This page is written by the fans, for the fans.

 

This section will eventually have a list of all REAL backstage fights ever occurred involving professional wrestlers.

 

For instance, remember the infamous Arn Anderson vs. Sid Vicious hotel room brawl from Europe? I want a detail account listed here, pronto! And that goes for EVERY fight you've heard about!

 

I don't care if you write me and say, "I heard Hawk punched Randy Savage in Japan." Whatever info you have, TELL US!!

 

Remember, all of these stories are ALLEGED and strictly HEARSAY, so take them with a grain of salt.

 

Here is a very partial list of what we have so far. Any contributions you make are greatly appreciated. I don't do this page; YOU guys do!

 

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Shawn Michaels & Davey Boy Smith & X-Pac vs. Some Thugs from a Bar in Syracuse, 1996

 

We all know this one. As the story goes, Shawn got a little too flirty with a female who was dating one of the military thugs at the bar. Once outside, the thugs jumped Michaels and beat him silly. Big ol’ Davey Boy and small but feisty X-Pac jumped out of the car to help out Shawn until the thugs ran away. A battered and bruised Michaels appeared on Raw shortly thereafter and the announcers acknowledged the legit beating. WINNER: Thugs, and all Canadian fans who hate Shawn.

 

 

 

Shawn Michaels vs. Ron & Don Harris, 1996

I think this happened right before the Syracuse incident. The Harris twins were on their way out of the WWF, and decided to shake a little fear into HBK in the locker room before they left. If they really wanted to scare Shawn, they should’ve threatened him with tapes of their matches in WCW in ’99. WINNER: WWF fans, who didn’t have to watch the Harris twins wrestle anymore. And the Canadians again.

 

 

 

Eddy Guerrero vs. Road Warrior Hawk, 199?

Heard about this one in passing while listening to “Wrestling Observer Live.” Dave and Bryan were discussing the Hawk-Savage incident and brought up this fight. I suspect it happened in Japan. Meltzer said, “How could anybody beat up Eddy Guerrero? He’s like the nicest guy.” WINNER: Hawk. But he's also a loser because he came off as such an arrogant bully. Well, he is.

 

 

 

Randy Savage vs. Road Warrior Hawk

 

Backstage at a New Japan show back in 1996, words were exchanged between the two men (over what I'm not sure) but it ended up with a fight where Hawk hit Savage with a right hook and knocked him out. Heat obviously still existed between the two because they had another confrontation three years later in the United States backstage at a Kid Rock concert at the Sun Dome in Tampa, Fl. Hawk saw Savage coming in his direction so he put his hand out (probably just out of respect) but Savage immediately threw a sucker punch that staggered Hawk. Hawk's wife was then attacked by Savage's then girlfriend Stephanie Bellars (Gorgeous George) and another female leaving her badly beaten. Hawk claimed that he would take legal action against the two women for attacking his wife but not against Savage since fights amongst wrestlers are usually kept away from the law. However, no action was ever taken. WINNER: Whoever got to see this Jerry Springer-like free-for-all lucked out big-time. (thanks to Rob Harvey and TPPW.net)

 

 

 

Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels, 1997

Tension had been brewing between these 2 for months. They had a shouting match in the locker room and Michaels just had to yell out, “What are you gonna do about it?” Bret punched him, they rolled on the floor, and Bret left with a clump of Shawn’s hair in his hand. WINNER: Shawn Michaels, for laying the foundation for the upcoming double-cross plot.

 

 

 

Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon in Montreal, 1997

What did Vince expect? After the infamous double-cross at Survivor Series, Vince approached Bret and got a handful of knuckles. A groggy Vince is seen walking out of the room in the movie, “Wrestling with Shadows.” WINNERS: A&E, some documentary filmmakers, Bret Hart, and bookers who plan to use this finish for centuries to come.

 

 

 

Nasty Boys vs. Ken Shamrock

This was quite a few years ago before Shamrock was a UFC star. They really roughed him up in a 2-on-1 hotel room brawl. I heard Ken was thrown right through the hotel room window! Rumor has it that a few years ago when Shamrock was in the WWF, Rock and Shamrock were walking thru an airport. One of the Nasty's was walking around and Shamrock spotted him. Story has it that Shamrock immediately went into the "zone" and Rock had to really calm him down, before all Hell broke loose WINNERS: Nasty Boys, although it wasn’t a fair fight. (thanks to Matt Mazany)

 

 

 

Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior, 1989?

 

During the Ultimate Warrior/Rick Rude program, Rude came back after the match & asked Warrior to "lighten up" a bit...Wariror got right in Rudes face & said, "I don't have to, cause I'm the Warrior." Rude knocked him silly with one punch & walked away. (thanks to "name withheld by request.") WINNERS: Rude, and anyone who hates Hellwig.

 

 

 

 

Scott Steiner vs. Diamond Dallas Page, 2001

It was due to Kimberly Page finding an illegal substance in a locker room, then telling management that it belonged to Tammy Sytch (Sunny). Management confronted Tammy and she flat out denied it and offered to take a **** test. She passed. Scott Steiner found out and chased Kimberly out of the building and she never appeared on TV again. DDP tried starting something at the next taping where Scott shooted on TV and that is what lead to the fight where DDP got his ass handed to him. (thanks to Dazraven) WINNER: Steiner. Duh.

 

Haku vs. Jimmy Jack Funk, 1987

 

There are tons of stories about Haku, apparently. Was this the time he bit off someone's nose? Funk was cracking on some women, and Haku went nuts on him. Details are in Dynamite's book. (thanks to Jongregben). WINNERS: Haku, and one lucky plastic surgeon.

 

 

 

Andre the Giant vs. Ernie Holmes, 1986

I guess Holmes got hot-headed backstage at a WWF taping. Andre muttered, “You know, you talk too much,” and Ernie never said a peep after that. WINNERS: Wrestling fans who hate football.

 

 

 

Andre the Giant vs. Akira Maeda, 1985

Major disaster. The mega-hyped match that turned into a near shoot because Andre wouldn't sell Maeda's offense. Maeda spent the whole time trying to kick Andre’s legs. WINNER: Certainly not the fans.

 

 

 

Lex Luger vs. Bruiser Brody, 1987

Brody was, despite his natural charisma and ability to get the fans going, a pain in the ass. He never jobbed leaving a territory, and the Florida territory with Luger was no exception. Brody showed up hung over with razorblades(!) taped to his knuckles. He played around for a bit before no-selling everything Luger tried to do. Referee Bill Alfonso told Luger it was all a rib, but later on realized it wasn't and told Luger to go right for the ref bump. Luger did and scampered out of the cage immediately. Said to be hilarious. (thanks to "Jesus ****** " and HB2KBuzzsaw) WINNER: Brody.

 

 

 

Brian Pillman vs. Sid Vicious, 1991

Ahh, the original dying days of WCW. Sid said some words about a would-be feud with Pillman that never came about, and it led to a skirmish. Sid left and came back with the infamous squeegee. People who know Pillman say he’d kill Sid in a street fight, which is hard to believe but I believe it. WINNER: Pillman. Sid will never hear the end of this one.

 

 

Arn Anderson vs. Sid Vicious, 1993

Perhaps the most famous shoot brawl of all. Lots of versions of this story. Sid started going off on how Arn had never drawn money, and they had both been drinking. Words were exchanged and maybe a beer was thrown, but both went back to their hotel rooms. Sid later went to Arn’s room and blindsided him with an object, and started a pummeling an unconscious Arn. Arn woke up and the two really got into it. Scissors were involved and the entire hotel hallway was smeared with blood. 2 Cold Scorpio came to the rescue. Just a mess that embarrassed the company. WINNERS: 2 Cold Scorpio for saving Arn’s life, and Arn for defending himself against a huge monster and holding his own.

 

 

 

Dynamite Kid vs. Davey Boy Smith, 1994

After years of pent up aggression between the two, which included Davey phoning up All Japan, telling them Dynamite had died in a car crash, just so he could try and ruin Dynamite's deal in Japan, Dynamite finally had a chance to do something, when Davey was booked on an independent show in Howe Bridge in 1994, just a few miles away from Kid's house. He arrived at the arena, where he found Davey's dad, and tipped over a table with pictures of Smith on it. He then taped his fists as he walked down the corridor to "knock **** out of him". Davey had gotten word Dyno was coming, and locked his dressing room door. Davey had also phoned the police, and Dynamite was escorted from the building. WINNERS: No one. This family feud was out of control. (thanks to Hb2kbuzzsaw)

 

 

 

New Jack vs. Pitbull

Jack jumped him backstage over some comments Bull had made, I think. Jack was so unpopular that the guys let them fight because they knew Bull would hurt him. Not sure how this ended up. WINNERS: The locker room guys, who got to witness someone they dislike get roughed up.

 

 

 

Buff Bagwell vs. Shane Helms, 2001

 

Buff Bagwell told Helm's he would never be a superstar because of his size and a few more words were said, and this ended with Bagwell slapping Helms. WINNER: Can Bagwell ever be a winner? He does win at being a loser. I actually went to college with a guy who went to Bagwell's high school. It was Spraberry High, which isn't a name you forget, and Ventura made fun of that name like crazy on WCW commentary at the time. (thanks to Doug Adams)

 

 

New Jack vs. Junkyard Dog

Not sure about this one, but it’s pretty sad. Dog was older, got a good reaction from the ECW fans, and this was his last high-profile gig before passing away. May have been over a $500 loan from New Jack that Dog wouldn't pay back. WINNER: Nobody. Even if Jack got the better of this, he looked really bad in hindsight. (thanks to Chuck Richmond)

 

 

 

Tony Atlas vs. Paul Orndorff

I think they were driving somewhere and started arguing about who was tougher. They pulled over and went at it, and word is that Orndorff got his hand raised. That Orndorff is one tough dude. I hope fans’ last memory of him isn’t that WCW PPV where he passed out from nerve damage. WINNER: Orndorff.

 

 

Paul Orndorff vs. Big Van Vader

Vader cornered Paul in an office backstage at a WCW show and picked this fight, which he soundly lost. Paul knocked him right down and kicked him in the face repeatedly. Vader had showed up late for the Center Stage tapings and Orndorff started yelling at him to hurry up and do his promos. There had been previous heat between the two. Both got face to face and Orndorff begged Vader, who outweighed him by 200 pounds, to start something. Vader shoved him down with a palm blow and Orndorff came back fighting, flooring Vader and knocking him for a loop with a punch from his bad left arm. Orndorff proceeded to kick at Vader?s face with his sandals until all the wrestlers broke it up. Amazingly, everyone just left Vader on the floor in a fetal position and went back to doing their thing. If you didn’t think Paul was tough before this, you knew after this one. Also, as a sidenote, Vader has said in his shoot video that he declined to strike Orndorff back in fear of losing his job. Orndorff later said on Wrestling Observer Live that he attacked Vade from behind. (thanks to Asa Taylor, Tom Hogan, "Jesus ****** " and an unknown website where this info came from). WINNER: Orndorff. Does this guy ever lose a fight?

 

 

Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Janetty

Read about this in a Janetty interview. The two never did really get along. WINNER: Janetty, according to himself (I believe it).

 

 

 

Kevin Nash vs. Roddy Piper

 

On the very same night that Michaels and Hart were fighting backstage at Raw, Piper and Nash were doing some of the same at Nitro. After a match that ended up being a complete mess between Scott Hall & Nash against Piper & Ric Flair, Nash stormed backstage, booted Piper's dressing room door open and leveled Piper with a punch to the head before the pair were pulled apart by various backstage personnel. Nash went unpunished (which became the theme for WCW later) and nothing further came of the fight. WINNER: Nash, but he picked on someone half his size. (thanks to Rob Harvey and TPPW.net)

 

 

 

Eric Bischoff vs. Juventud Guerrera, 2002

Nothing physical, but they exchanged words at a recent WWA show. Juvi was in character and there is still bad blood between them. Juvi SHOULD be pissed after the way Bischoff made him take off the mask and buried him in WCW after having some incredible matches. WINNER: Anyone who theorized Juvi can’t act like a professional, because this situation proves him/her right.

 

 

 

Buddy Rogers vs. Some Loudmouth at a Restaurant

This happened when Rogers was well into his 60s, I believe. Not sure how it happened, but the loudmouth was several years younger, and it was over in 1 punch. WINNER: Rogers!

 

 

 

William Regal vs. Van Hammer

I think they were at some party and Hammer was saying some naughty things about British wrestlers? Regal got word and reportedly gave him a royal thrashing. Word has it he used a simple finger lock or headbutt. Hammer stunk but I always dug his gimmick because I’m a metalhead. Still, Regal is a tough hombre. (thanks to several who wrote me on this one) WINNER: Regal. LOSER: Heavy metal fans.

 

 

Rickson Gracie vs. Yoji Anjoh

What an embarrassment. Anjoh goes down and challenges Gracie an impromptu shoot to prove he’s tough. Gracie drove to his gym, taping his fists on the way. Once there, he gave Anjoh the beating of a lifetime. What a career killer. WINNER: Gracie and all the pupils who got to witness this massacre.

 

 

Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle, 2001

Not really a fight, but a friendly challenge of who could take down whom. Not surprising who won, but it’s still impressive given the size of that Lesnar beast. WINNER: Angle.

 

 

 

Dan Severn vs. Dory Funk, Jr.

 

Another silly skirmish, similar to above. WINNER: The insane voices in Funk’s head who convinced him to take on one of the toughest men in the world.

 

 

 

Riki Choshu vs. Akira Maeda, 1987

An unprofessional “shoot kick” to Choshu in a 6-man tag that obliterated his eye. Not cool, and what’s worse is that kick turned Maeda into a superstar for many years. WINNER: Maeda’s career.

 

 

 

HHH vs. Bill Goldberg, 1999 or 2000

Nothing physical, just Goldberg shouting at HHH at an autograph signing over some harsh words HHH had to say about Goldberg in an interview. Goldberg also said on ESPN that the wrestler he’d like to beat up in real life the most is HHH. If WWE signs Goldberg, expect the sparks to fly! WINNER: Goldberg. Only because HHH is such an ass.

 

 

 

Capt. Lou Albano vs. Shane McMahon, late 80s

 

Albano was one of the people Vince Sr. asked Vince Jr. to "take care of" after he died. So Lou apparently tested this one out one day. An 11-yr-old Shane would always walk up to Lou and say, "What's up, Fatman?" This would **** Lou off and give the boys around a chuckle. One day Shane went up to Lou and said once again, "What's up, Fatman?" Lou reportedly told Shane if he called him Fatman one more time, he'd forget who he was and slap the taste out of his mouth. Sure enough, little Shane said, "No problem....Fatman." Then little Shane got slapped a good one! (thanks to Matt Mazany). WINNER: Shane, who will soon be the new owner of WWFE for decades to come.

 

 

 

Buff Bagwell vs. Ernest Miller

 

Bagwell's parody leading up to Road Wild of Miller didn't go down too well. Right before the live PPV match, Miller approached him about it. Bagwell slapped him. Miller immediately responded with two punches, and Bagwell fell, cutting his elbow badly. Bagwell backed off before more damage could be done, and the match went ahead as planned. Bagwell won, and neither man was disciplined. WINNER: Miller. How many times you think he has bragged about this one? (thanks to HB2KBuzzsaw)

 

 

 

Eddie Gilbert vs. Jeff Gaylord, 1991 or 1992

 

Gilbert talks about this on that tape, "Looking for Mr. Gilbert." A promoter named Gordon Scorazzi (sp?) was mad at Gilbert for no-showing a show or something like that. The guy put a $1000 bounty on Gilbert's head and Gaylord sucker punched him at an indie show. Eddie was fighting back but was stunned from the first couple of blows. Doug Gilbert broke it up by breaking something over Gaylord's head. WINNER: Gilbert. Someone with a last name like Gaylord has the advantage because he probably got in tons of fights as a kid. (thanks to Robert Solari)

 

 

 

Rod Price vs. Chris Adams, early '90s

 

Rod's opponent yanked out his implanted hair, which caused quite a bit of blood loss. They worked stiff with each other. This was in an old Observer but I'm too lazy to look it up. Any help is appreciated. WINNER: Cy Sperling, who received a repeat customer at his hair loss clinic. (thanks to Chuck Richmond & Brandon Finch).

 

 

 

Road Warrior Hawk vs. some patron

 

An old news program reported on Hawk punching some guy in line at a movie theater, reportedly because the guy's brother had killed a Minneapolis (Hawk's hometown) cop earlier. WINNER: Hawk. LOSER: The unlucky recipient of Hawk's violent wrath. (thanks to Chuck Richmond)

 

 

 

Juventud Guerrera vs. Australia, 2000

 

Old Juvi Juice was reportedly tripping on ecstasy and went on a spree beating up cops (what cop can't handle a guy the size of Juvi?). He may have broken the ribs of a female cop. WINNER: Wrestling fans who have something to talk about. LOSERS: Wrestling fans embarrassed by a truly phenomenal wrestler. (thanks to Chuck Richmond and Lewis Feinman)

 

 

 

Messiah vs. ? & ?, 2002

 

Finally saw the "America's Most Wanted" piece. Two guys broke into Messiah's apartment and beat him down, cut off his thumb, and broke a fish tank over his head. The suspects are still at large. WINNER: Messiah, who got this case some national pub.

 

 

 

Juventud Guerrera vs. Eric Bischoff, 2001

 

Nothing physical, but they bumped into each other at a WWA show and Eric and Juvi got into a verbal confrontation stemming from their heat back in WCW. Juvi muttered something about being the Juvi Juice, baby. Wish I had the full story on this one! WINNER: Bischoff, the one with a job with WWE.

 

 

 

Jim Cornette vs. Ed Ferrara, 2002

 

A few months back, Ferrara went to shake Jim's hand, and Jim responded by spitting in his face! Yeah, go Jim! He told Ferrara "That was for JR." What a hero Cornette is. WINNER: All of us. (thanks to several, including Chuck Richmond)

 

 

 

Jim Cornette vs. Bruce Mitchell & Wade Keller, 1993ish

 

I remember this one crystal clear. Bruce and Wade had written negative articles on SMW based on the "riot" in Wise, VA. Cornette hated the story and left nasty voicemails on their machines, saying if he ever saw them, he'd "Slap 'em until they fought me." Apparently he once went after Bruce in the stands at a house show, but I've heard stories saying otherwise. Let's just say Jim was going through a lot of stress at this point in his life. WINNER: Me, because I can't stand Bruce. (thanks to Chuck Richmond)

 

 

 

New Jack vs. Sandman

 

Don't know the specifics but allegedly New Jack overheard Sandman telling some racial joke. Jack jumped him and Sandman kicked his ass. Don't know if that's true but the story has gone around more than once. (thanks to David Crawford)

 

 

 

Big Bill Miller & Karl Gotch vs. Buddy Rogers

 

Rumors abound that the two broke the Nature Boy's arm, but what is certain is that they roughed him up real good. Hey, Rogers was hardly a shooter. (thanks to Tom Hogan)

 

 

 

Jacques Rougeau vs. Dynamite Kid

 

Dynamite was mistakenly accused by the Rougeaus of cutting their clothes with scissors (while notorious pranksters, the Bulldogs were innocent here....it was Curt Hennig who did it). In short, Dynamite punked out both Rougeaus for their false accusations. Two weeks later in Fort Wayne, Indiana, Jacques and Raymond Rougeau got their revenge as Jacques suckered Dynamite, knocking out four of his teeth. Dynamite got money from WWF agents to get the teeth fixed. When Vince McMahon sat down both sides to talk out the problem Dynamite suggested the Rougeaus pay the bill. Not knowing the agents paid for it, they unwillingly agreed to pay for the broken teeth. All that happened was that Dynamite Kid got an extra $1,800. Thus the real winner was Dynamite Kid, who got his teeth fixed and some extra money. (thanks to Tom Hogan and Nicholas Argirakis)

 

 

 

DDP VS Firebreaker Chip

 

Chip was mad because he thought DDP tried to take advantage of him during a match. Ended when DDP hooked Chip in a front face lock, and had to be pulled off Chip. WINNER: DDP. And just where was Todd Champion in all of this? (thanks to Justin Newbould)

 

 

 

Big John Studd vs. Basil V. Devito Jr.

 

Studd, upset over the marketing of the football players over the wrestlers for WrestleMania 2, and showed up at Devito's hotel room (Devito was director of marketing for WWE, and I believe was laid off earlier this year). He yelled at him, picked him up, and slammed him against a wall. WINNER: Devito, who kept his job. (thanks to Justin Newbould and "WrestleMania: The Official Insider's Story")

 

 

 

Vince McMahon vs. Kurt Angle

 

Not really a fight, but yet another Angle skirmish. On an airplane, Vince jokingly reminded Angle that he was the only person to take him down. Angle decided to have a little fun, and promptly took Vince down in the aisle. For the rest of the flight, Vince would try to take Angle down at any opportunity he had. During one altercation, the noise woke up a sleeping Undertaker, who either not knowing who was wrestling with Vince, or not realizing that they were just messing around, grabbed Angle from behind, and choked him out. WINNER: Angle, who now has a good reason to kick Undertaker's ass if he ever decides to. (thanks to Justin Newbould and Kurt Angle's book)

 

 

 

ECW vs. XPW

 

XPW wrestlers showed up at an ECW event for publicity. The ECW guys, understandably, didn't like it. There may have been something involving Francine and a valet from XPW. Anyway, some ECW and XPW wrestlers started fighting, and the ECW guys got some help from security. The fights ended up going into the streets. WINNER: Heyman, because XPW will never be close to what ECW was. (thanks to Justin Newbould)

 

 

 

RVD vs. Taz

 

After a match involving RVD and Sabu wound up Taz, he went around the ECW locker room saying he was gonna kick RVD's ass, Sabu's ass, etc. Word got around to Van Dam, who went up to Taz, and said "Pick the hand." Taz replied, "What?" and RVD punched him in the mouth. Taz went on the defensive, saying he didn't want to fight him. (thanks to HB2kBuzzsaw)

 

 

 

New Jack vs. Dances with Dudley, 1995

 

It's not clear why this one started, but apparently Jack was upset about something that happened in a tag match earlier that night involving the two. Jack proceeded to walk up to Dances from behind and crack him over the head with a nightstick. Dances quickly rebounded and managed to hit back, before the two were separated by other wrestlers. WINNER: Who HASN'T New Jack jumped? (thanks to Matthew Singh)

 

Scott Norton vs. Tony Halme, early 90's

 

Both were in a Japanese bar, when Halme flattened Norton for an unknown reason. Norton reportedly put up no resistance whatsoever and has since claimed he was drunk at the time of the incident. WINNER: Halme. Had Norton been sober, trust me he wouldn't have such an easy time. (thanks to Matthew Singh)

 

Naoya Ogawa vs. Shinya Hashimoto, 1999

 

Working a match at the Tokyo Egg Dome, the match was a

defensive stalemate until Ogawa took Hashimoto down and landed brutal punches to the face then laid in with kicks to the head. Hashimoto rolled to ringside while Ogawa paraded around the ring in front of 62,500 fans. The match was ruled a no-contest; Hasimoto

sustained a broken nose. (thanks to Matthew Singh)

 

 

Doug Gilbert vs. Jeff Gaylord

 

Doug Gilbert broke a bottle over Jeff Gaylord's head. That's all the info I have. If you know more, tell me! (thanks to Thomas Daubler)

 

 

Sid Vicious vs. A Squirrel

 

Vicious had a squirrel he took with him everywhere. Two wrestlers (I'm pretty sure one of them was Arn Anderson) bet him he couldn't keep the squirrel down his pants for a whole minute. Vicious accepted the challenge and stuck it down his pants. After about 30 seconds the squirrel bit a very sensitive area, if you get my drift. Vicious fell down in pain and crushed the squirrel. He needed a rabies shot and stitches on his genitalia. WINNER: The squirrel, who is now a hero to all squirrels worldwide for flattening Sid. (thanks to "Jesus ****** ")

 

Shane Douglas vs. Brian Lee vs. Tracy Smothers

 

During a Brian Lee vs Pitbull #2 match, they got a little out of control in the stands and Shane Douglas went to Todd Gordon and Paul E. and said they should be fired. Sandman and Tracy Smothers overheard this and Sandman told Lee about what Shane had said. Lee went over grabbed Shane by the throat and dragged him across the hall into the shower and put the fear of God into Shane before releasing him. Shane went running into the locker room and yelled, "Who stooged me out?" Before Sandman could answer, Tracy Smothers tackled Shane and start beating on him until they were separated. Turns out that a long while back Shane was living at Tracy Smothers house back in his younger days for free and Shane had recently said some unkind things about Tracey, who had a horrible temper. After it was all said and done Sandman told Shane that he stooged him out. (thanks to Dazraven)

 

Sandman vs. Shane Douglas vs. Bill Alfonso

 

It was the Triple Threat vs Sandman and 2 others, and Sandman had told the wrestlers earlier not to touch his cane when he dropped it for a spot later. Anyways during the spot where Sandman gets knocked out of the ring and the cane is in the middle of the ring, Shane picks up the cane, shakes his head in disgust and drops it right back to the same spot. Sandman was livid and after the match goes up to Shane in the locker room and gets right in his face and says, "Shane, if you ever touch my ******* cane again, I'm gonna beat the hell out of you." He then goes down the hall into another room and sits down next to Bill Alfonso. Sandman went on to say that even if Shane had picked up the cane and used it, he wouldn't have been mad, but to just stare at it pissed him off. So back to the story, Sandman is next to "Fonzie," and they hear Shane coming down the hall, Sandman is still seated and Shane gets closer cursing, when Bill Alfonso tackles Shane and starts hitting him. It gets broken up shortly after. (thanks to Dazraven)

 

 

Big Show vs. Ballz Mahoney

 

The next story involves Big Show when he was still training to be a wrestler at Larry Sharpe's Monster Factory, where Ballz was helping to train people. Giant showed up with some of his buddies and they stood around, while Giant was working some weights. Ballz came up the his buddies and asked them to leave because they were training. The men said, "Oh, well we're with Paul Wight and he said we could stay." Wrong thing to say to Ballz, who has a horrible temper and even told Vince McMahon to, "Go **** himself" one time. Ballz got right in their faces and told them to get the hell out. Giant walked over and asked what was going on. They told him and he tried to calm the situation, but Ballz was pissed and got in Giant's face and challenged him. He told the Giant, "Sure you're 7ft tall, an 500pds, and you could probably kick my ass, but what happens if I kick your ass!" Giant simply sighed and took his friends and left. Ballz later admitted he was glad it went down that way, because Giant would have killed him. (thanks to Dazraven)

 

 

New Jack vs. Dances w/ Dudley

 

DW heard a rumor that New Jack was gonna shoot in the match and DW started shooting w/ Jack. The match was really stiff, but basically Jack was cheap-shotted and responded. They beat on each other until the match went outside where they called a truce until they got back to the locker room and jack hit him w/ the baton. (thanks to Dazraven)

 

 

Frank Gotch vs. George Hackenschmidt

 

For wrestling historians, this is one of the most famous matches in pro wrestling history. Sometime in 1911, Gotch had beaten Hackenschmidt three years earlier and was universally recognized as the world heavyweight champion and this was the first ever rematch of the century. Weeks before the match took place, a sparring partner of Hackenschmidt's by the name of Ad Santel had done some damage to his partner's knee in training. It later turned out that Santel was paid $5000 by the Gotch camp to do a number on it. A record breaking crowd was expected for the show so the promoters kept the injury quiet from the media (who actually cared about wrestling back then). Gotch obviously knew about the injury told Hackenschmidt, who wanted to pull out, that he would carry him to a credible match and give him one fall in the best-of-three falls. Once the match started though, Gotch double-crossed him and started to shoot quickly won two straight falls. (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPWW.net)

 

Ed Don George vs. Strangler Lewis

 

Promoter Billy Sandow (who basically worked with Lewis) worked closely with another promoter called Paul Bowser were making big bucks with a former football player called Gus Sonnenberg as the world champion. Sonnenberg, who supposedly couldn't wrestle a lick, was beaten up in the street by a middleweight wrestler in a set up organised by rival promoters. At this time, the heavyweight champion had to be looked as being the toughest man in the world because people still thought wrestling was real so Bowser then had Sonnenberg drop the world title to George, who was a great Olympic wrestler, without consulting Sandow or Lewis (who was meant to be next in line for the world title). George was then later booked in a match with Lewis where he was meant to win. However, it didn't quite go down like that because while they were in the ring, Lewis told George he was taking the belt and they could either do things the easy way (George doing the job) or the hard way (Lewis beating the living **** out of him and taking the belt). He took the easy way. (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPWW.net)

 

Strangler Lewis vs. Henri DeGlane

 

Three weeks after the Lewis vs. George match, Paul Bowser booked Lewis to defend the title in Montreal (sound familiar?) against the 1924 Olympic gold medalist. Lewis went into the ring knowing he was going to win the match by 2 falls to 1. Back in these days, wrestlers would return to the dressing rooms after each fall. After the second fall, DeGlane bit himself in the arm until he drew blood and then came out for the final fall with the arm covered. Within seconds of the third fall starting, DeGlane starting screaming like he'd been shot. Lewis then backed off not knowing what happened but the referee then saw the bite marks on DeGlane's arm and then DQ'd Lewis and awarded the belt to DeGlane. Lewis then went backstage to beat the **** out of Bowser but he had six bodyguards armed with baseball bats waiting for him. (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPWW.net)

 

Wendi Richter vs. Spider Lady

 

November 25, 1985 at Madison Square Garden. Minutes before going to the ring to defend the WWF women'' title, Richter was given a contract by Vince McMahon which included a clause to sign away all her merchandise rights. Richter said she wanted to look at the contract after her match. McMahon then demanded she sign the contract but Richter stuck to her guns and said she would look at it after the match. However, Spider Lady wasn't the same lady who had played the character previously. It was Fabulous Moolah. During the match, Moolah rolled up an unsuspecting Richter and held her tight for the pin. Richter never worked for the WWF again. Moolah claims that she wasn't aware of the double-cross and she didn't expect the referee to count the three. Again, does it sound familiar? (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPWW.net)

 

Vince McMahon vs. Kevin Wacholz

 

Some of you older fans may remember Kevin Wacholz as Nailz, the former convict, in the WWF back in 1992. Story goes that Wacholz, who was in line for a program with the Ultimate Warrior before he left the company, was pissed at Vince McMahon because of his pay off from SummerSlam 1992 which was, and still is, the highest attendance ever for a WWF event. Wacholz confronted McMahon about the pay off and reportedly, McMahon blow it off which angered Wacholz more so he attacked McMahon and choked him until he was turning blue. Wacholz was fired because of that incident and aside from one pay-per-view appearance in WCW against Sting, he hasn't worked in the big time since. To add another chapter to this story, later at the Vince McMahon steroid trial, Wacholz gave evidence against Vince McMahon but he came off so badly on the stand (including continuously contradicting himself) that word is that his evidence probably was what kept Vince from doing time. WINNER: Nailz, for doing what so many others have dreamed of. (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPWW.net)

 

 

 

Rick Steiner vs. Corporal Cajun/Big Vito/Konnan

 

On three straight Nitro's prior the to sale of the WCW to WWFE, Rick Steiner took blatant liberties with all three men during singles match. Steiner, who has a reputation for being a tough guy, had no clear reason to shoot on these three men. For the record, all three of his opponents on these nights stayed professional and tried to work their parts in the match. Rumor has it that prior to the news that the WWF had bought the company, many people backstage were planning on running in during a Steiner match on the final Nitro to beat him down live on the show. Whether it would have happened or not we will ever know. WINNER: Steiner. I'm afraid to call him a loser. (thanks to Rob Harvey and TPPW.net)

 

New Jack vs. Brian Pillman

 

On June 1, 1996, Brian Pillman returned to the ECW Arena just week after breaking his foot in a Humvee accident. Pillman cut a promo in the ring where he made a reference to the NWA (the rap group, not the wrestling organization). To this day nobody expect New Jack is 100% on what he thought but it's believed that New Jack either misheard the comments or was misinformed by someone backstage but he went nuts backstage anyway talking about the infamous N-word. When Pillman came backstage, in his wheelchair mind you, both men got into a very heated confrontation where many believe New Jack would attack the crippled Pillman. To his credit, Pillman never backed down to anything. New Jack threatened to leave the company over the incident and Pillman never went back to work for ECW ever again. Days later, Pillman signed the first ever guaranteed contract issued by the World Wrestling Federation. (thanks to Rob Harvey and TPPW.net)

 

Rickson Gracie vs. Yoji Anjoh (duplicate story from above)

 

You know how you always see those publicity stunts between two fighters prior to a match where it seems to be very heated and makes you want to see the real fight between the two men more? Well this is what Yoji Anjoh, a middle ranked shoot fighter/wrestler, had planned to do but things didn't quite go to plan. At a Japanese press conference, Anjoh claimed he could beat the Mixed Martial Arts expert and undefeated jujitsu fighter Rickson Gracie in less than a minute and challenged him to a fight. Gracie never responded to the challenge, obviously thinking he was a class above Anjoh. This didn't still well with Anjoh who then got on a plane and went to Gracie's front door step to issue the challenge face to face. Unfortunately for Anjoh, Gracie called his bluff and beat the **** out of him there and then in quick time. Lesson in life, if you are gonna issue a challenge like this, make sure you know that you can actually beat the man you are challenging!

 

Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon

 

One of, if not the most well known controversial confrontation in the history of pro wrestling. Yes, it was the infamous double cross of Bret Hart by Vince McMahon in Montreal at the Survivor Series on November 9, 1997. Bret Hart returned to the locker rooms to get showered and change after smashing up most of ringside following McMahon's decision to double cross him on live TV. McMahon, who reportedly was just confronted by the Undertaker, walked into Hart's dressing room (surrounded with his stooges no less) to explain why he double crossed him. While giving his reasons (none of which were justified), be told Hart he had never lied to him in 14 years. Hart then rattled off at least 15 lies that McMahon had told him that year before telling him to get out of the room before he knocked him out. McMahon didn't leave so the pair got into a scuffle before the two broke away and Hart hit McMahon with a lethal right hand which knocked McMahon completely out cold. McMahon tried to get back to his feet but his legs buckled out underneath him. Shane McMahon then jumped on Bret's back obviously because he just saw his father get whooped but Davey Boy Smith threw him to the floor and hyper-extended his own knee in the process. Hart, who hit McMahon so hard that he broke his own hand, then asked McMahon if he was gonna screw him over the money he still owed him. McMahon, still out of his head from the punch, shook his head and Hart left the building with his family. To this day, McMahon, Michaels and a bunch of his other stooges insist that he let Hart punch him out however, everyone else who saw it (half of the WWF locker room) says different. WINNER: Vince, whose business skyrocketed after becoming a heel. (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPPW.net)

 

Shinya Hashimoto vs. Naoya Ogawa (duplicate from above)

 

I'm actually not 100% certain that this was a shoot or not but I'll write it up anyway. Over 62,000 fans turned up for New Japan's annual January 4 show in 1999 to see New Japan superstar Shinya Hashimoto take on the 3 time judo world champion and 1996 Olympic silver medalist Naoya Ogawa in the Tokyo Dome. Everything in the match seemed to be going well with both men were wrestling against the ropes. Suddenly, Ogawa took Hashimoto down to the mat where he landed a barrage of mounted punches. Hashimoto, with his face busted up, cut, bruised and swelled, rolled out of the ring where he lay beaten while Ogawa walked around the ring with his arms raised in victory. The match was a no-contest and Ogawa remains one of the company's biggest stars. (thanks to Rob Harvey & TPPW.net)

 

 

 

Andre the Giant vs. Ultimate Warrior

 

During their series of matches. They had a spot set up where warrior would charge Andre w/ a clothesline knocking the Giant back into the ropes to be tied up. Problem was, that Warrior would charge at Andre going at full speed. Now it didn't hurt Andre, but pissed him off royaly. When he was hit by the clothesline, Heenan would hear Andre grunt. This went on for a while, match after match, same thing. Warrior at full speed and Andre grunting. Finally Andre had enough. The spot came up and Warrior charged full speed at Andre, but the Giant simply held up his fist which connected and Warrior was knocked senseless. Next match, spot comes up, Warrior goes for the clothesline and basically goes in slow motion and connects with the clothesline. Andre gets tied up in the ropes and leans over to Bobby and says "He's learning." (thanks to Dazraven)

 

 

 

Curt Hennig vs. Brock Lesnar, 2002

 

Can't believe I forgot to list this one. On the "Plane flight from Hell" earlier this year on the European tour, Curt was loaded up on booze and challenged Brock to take him down. Brock, new to the industry, didn't know what to make of it. Heyman reportedly told him if he doesn't do anything about it now, he'll never live it down. So Brock did take his ass down, and nearly burst a hole through the plane in the process. I'd love to have seen this one. Hennig lost his job over his behavior on this flight. WINNER: Lesnar. (thanks to Matt Phillips and Steve Vendeland)

 

 

 

Bill Watts vs. Scott Steiner

 

In the early 90's, Bill Watts and Scott Steiner had been hating each other backstage. I believe Steiner began requesting title shots, and Bill Watts told him that he could have the TV title (which Steiner eventually would win). Scott apparently went ballistic on Watts (possibly due to roid rage as well), and a number of superstars had to pull him off. (thanks to Steve Vendeland)

 

 

 

Scott Steiner vs. DDP, Part 2

 

I think that Scott Steiner and DDP had another fight a week before Superbrawl 2001. This was a different fight, but DDP got his ass kicked, and Kevin Nash left with him afterwards, thus changing the format of the whole show. I remember Steiner said some trash about DDP and his wife in the ring. Backstage, the two got into a fight where DDP jumped Steiner, got beat up, and a bunch of wrestlers had to pull them apart. To make up for some time lost, Mike Sanders and the Natural Born Thrillers went to the ring and improved for a little bit on the stick. I'm not 100% sure when this was, but it must have been before early 2001/late 2000. That's all I can remember. (thanks to Steve Vendeland)

 

 

 

Kevin Nash vs. Jean Pierre Lafitte

 

Need more info on this one. Apparently Pierre didn't want to lose in his hometown, so Nash may have given him a beating. I think Kevin Nash referenced to that incident in late 2000. This was at a house show. (thanks to Steve Vendeland)

 

 

 

Steve Austin vs. HHH, 1999

 

I remember hearing something at the Summer Slam '99' taping. After the main event witch included Mankind, HHH and Austin, Austin confronted HHH about the way he was hitting him with chairshots. I heard they got in a heated conversation but don't know if any fists were thrown. (thanks to Melissa Munoz)

 

 

 

Bill Goldberg vs. Evan Karagias, 2000

 

Before the 9/5/00 Nitro, Goldberg was backstage with Kevin Nash when Karagias walked up to shake Goldberg's hand. Bill was slow to acknowledge Karagias and apparently Evan took offense to it and said something to Goldberg. So, Bill grabbed him by the throat and pinned him on the floor, choking him out. Goldberg later tried to apologize but Evan refused, which made Goldberg angry again but nothing came of it. This was during the time period that Goldberg was going through major heat with Russo and obviously couldn't control his temper throughout the duration. On a side note, 3 Count was told by management they would go over Kronik to make up for the incident, but Kronik, when they heard this, again refused to sell for the smaller guys. Winner: Goldberg and anyone with a big man/bad management fetish. (thanks to Troy Anthony)

 

 

 

Steve Austin vs. Raven

 

Steve Austin once exchanged heated words in a locker room with Raven. Debra was cutting a promo near the showers backstage, when Raven came out wearing nothing but a towel. Austin confronted him, grabbing Raven and verbally laying into him, feeling that Raven was showing off in front of his wife. Raven claimed he didn't know Debra was there. The situation was quelled quickly, but wrestlers have said Austin was always over-protective of Debra. Austin later apologized. Winner: None, but is there any doubt that Austin would have whipped his ass? (thanks to Troy Anthony)

 

 

 

Sabu vs. a Fan

 

I also recall an incident when Sabu kicked the **** out on some fan for pulling off his turban while Sabu was walking to the ring. This happened in Japan, I have it on tape somewhere. Anyway, after the fan pulled off the turban, Sabu hopped the railing, chased him down, then knocked him out with a few punches and some wicked ass knees to the face! Afterwards Sabu continued to the ring and proceeded to wrestle Eddie Guerrero like nothing ever happened. (thanks to Troy Anthony)

 

 

 

Mike Awesome vs. a Fan, 2000

 

At Halloween Havoc 2000, Mike Awesome knocked a fan out with one punch during a crowd tour with Vampiro. The fan tried to jump in and give Awesome some clubs to the back when Awesome laid him the F out. (thanks to Troy Anthony)

 

 

 

Bill Johnson vs. Tony Galento

 

State police arrested Two-Ton Tony Galento, former heavyweight boxer, on an assault - and - battery charge. The charge was filed by Bill Johnson, a wrestling promoter in nearby McKeesport. Johnson said the Galento knocked out four of his teeth after a wrestling show in an altercation over a split of the proceeds. Johnson later dropped the charges when Galento agreed to pay him $250 for hospital bills. The 41 year old Orange, N.J. saloon keeper appeared on a wrestling card at McKeesport. (thanks to Bob and Associated Press)

 

 

 

Ric Flair vs. Eric Bischoff, 2003

 

On the night of a recent Raw taping, Bischoff and Ric exchanged a few words about their past in WCW. Words got heated up and it led to blows. The scuffle was quickly broken up, but while it lasted, Flair got the better of it. Suspiciously, WWE officials, Flair, and Bischoff have been extremely tight-lipped about this. WINNER: Flair, I guess. Go figure, the guy finally stands up for himself, about 15 years too late. (thanks to Scott Ryan Czasak & several others)

 

 

 

Chris Jericho vs. Bill Goldberg, 2003

 

Yet another recent incident at Raw. Goldberg mouthed off to Nash about Jericho, stemming from their real-life feud in WCW years back. Word got to Jericho what Goldberg said, and he confronted him about it. Seconds later, they were rolling around on the ground (violently, not lovingly, you jokesters). It was broken up before any punches really landed. Don't these guys know their fights will be broken up right away? Knowing that, even I'd pick a fight with Goldberg just to look brave for 2 seconds. Both guys ended up shaking hands when it was over. WINNER: Neither, but this incident showed the Balls of Jericho. (thanks to Scott Ryan Czasak & many others)

 

 

Ric Flair vs. a Backstage Guy named Richard Fullerton

 

Ric said hello to Richard and Richard said Flair was too old to be wrestling, and that his wrestling has always stunk. So Flair attacked him and the two got in to a major punch up for about 3 minutes, until others broke it up. It was believed that Flair won the fight (thanks to Michael Gawith)

 

 

Kevin Nash & Scott Hall vs. a Bunch of Stupid, Drunk Kids, Spring Break Nitro, 199?

 

The kids were throwing rocks at the NWO guys, but Nash got pissed and took off after them through the crowd. It was televised by WCW (or maybe MTV). (thanks to the Meatball)

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Sid Vicious vs. A Squirrel

 

Vicious had a squirrel he took with him everywhere. Two wrestlers (I'm pretty sure one of them was Arn Anderson) bet him he couldn't keep the squirrel down his pants for a whole minute. Vicious accepted the challenge and stuck it down his pants. After about 30 seconds the squirrel bit a very sensitive area, if you get my drift. Vicious fell down in pain and crushed the squirrel. He needed a rabies shot and stitches on his genitalia. WINNER: The squirrel, who is now a hero to all squirrels worldwide for flattening Sid. (thanks to "Jesus ****** ")

 

This sounds a bit far fetched...

[Guest Trivia247]

heh

 

great List man..

 

 

HAKU man!!!!

 

HAKU should threaten to Eat McMahon's face if he didn't give him back his contract.

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Crimson Mask I

Administrator

Member # 589

 

posted 06-07-2003 05:13 PM

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Dan Severn vs. Dory Funk, Jr.

 

Another silly skirmish, similar to above. WINNER: The insane voices in Funk’s head who convinced him to take on one of the toughest men in the world.

 

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Work. Stupid Howard Brody 'shoot angle'.

 

 

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I remember reading in the Torch several years back about this. I thik it was on some indy card in Florida, where after the final match of the show, Funk and Severn got into it and started shooting in the ring. Or something like that, and apparently it was real. I don't know.

 

It's amazing I can rememeber stuff like this, yet I can barely remember what happened at last months pay per view.

 

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IIRC, the story was that some sort of altercation allegedly happend between Severn and Dory's wife Marti which prompted Funk to challenge him to get in the ring, which was already being taken apart by that point. I think they even had the cops out there before everything was eventually "smoothed over".

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Balls Mahoney tells a story on his shoot tape about Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

 

At the time Balls is still doing the fire breathing gimmick. He was working all the tops faces that came in to work shows.

 

Before the match they go over some stuff they want to do in the match. Including the fire gimmick. Which Duggan will duck.

 

So they got the match going and Duggan screws up the first two planned spots. So Balls decides to just finish it and get over it and Duggan agrees. So they are going for the finish. Balls get the fluid in his mouth, lights the lighter, gets ready to blow.....Duggan just knocks the lighter out of his hand. Mahoney ends up just spitting fluid. No fire. Balls stops. Flips Duggan off in the ring. Drops and rolls out of the ring and goes to the back.

 

Mahoney gets in the back and is ready to kill. Some of the guys lock him in an office. At the time Mahoney was working in Puerto Rico and carried a knife at all times. He was ready to come out swinging.

 

Someone got to Duggan who was blaming Mahoney for everything going wrong and told him if he didn't leave it would be bad for his health.

 

By the time Mahoney got out of the office. Duggan got his stuff and had left.

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Tony Atlas vs. Paul Orndorff

I think they were driving somewhere and started arguing about who was tougher. They pulled over and went at it, and word is that Orndorff got his hand raised. That Orndorff is one tough dude. I hope fans’ last memory of him isn’t that WCW PPV where he passed out from nerve damage. WINNER: Orndorff.

 

 

MORE INFO:

 

Paul and Tony were in the car with Tommy Rich and Brian Blair on the road for GCW. Brian's driving with Tony riding shotgun. Paul's in the back seat right behind Tony. Rich is in the back, too. Tony reclines his seat way back to where it's crowding Paul. Paul asks him to sit up a little and Atlas shoots back at him, "you don't want none of this...blah, blah, blah...". Anyway, Atlas pushed the wrong guy too far. Paul told Brian to "pullover!" Tommy Rich got scared and tried to smooth things over. Blair finally pulled over at a truckstop between two semis. Paul and Tony got out and squared off. Orndorff kinda bearhugged tackled Tony and bit part of his ear off on the way down. Blood everywhere! Ear on the pavement. Tony's in shock. Fight over. Cops coming. They scrambled to their feet, picked up the ear, and went straight to the hospital to have it sewn back on.

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Another Orndorff Story:

 

Grew up around him in Florida. He was a good guy and a GREAT All-State athlete. A natural. But he was one guy NOBODY messed with. Never saw or heard of him starting a fight but know he's ended some real quick. Saw him beat 3 undercover men up one night in a bar in Brandon. These guys had mistakenly 'apprehended' Paul's younger brother Terry. Paul didn't know who the guys were and decided to ...uh, 'free' Terry. Bad, bad, fight. All three undercover men laid out, busted up, bleeding, taken to the hospital. I know one, maybe two, were beaten so badly they were never able to work again. Big lawsuit. Later in '77 when Paul was wrestling for Jarrett in Tennessee he had to take a week off and head back to Tampa for the court dates. He got off somehow but never wrestled in Florida again with the exception of a few rare one shot appearances.

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Dave Meltzer

Member

Member # 2122

 

posted 06-09-2003 01:07 AM

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On Andre vs. Maeda. Maeda was getting a big head and Andre was told to embarrass him in the ring since everyone believed in the Andre myth. Maeda didn't know and Andre, even drunk, was powerful as hell, and started going for Maeda's eyes after no selling his submissions. When Maeda saw it was on, he reacted as only he could. The reason it wasn't stopped earlier was because the idea was for Andre to kick Maeda's ass and they were waiting for it to happen. Maeda was kicking Andre's knee until it turned bright red and took him down rather easily a few times. He turned to Kantaro Hoshino and asked if he could finish him off and Hoshino shook his head "no." Maeda was pissed and threw a kick at the guard rail that was more brutal than any kick he threw at Andre. Maeda has been very unprofessional at certain points in his career and is a baby, but in this case, a guy twice his size started it with him and he was trying to protect himself, put some fear into Andre, and not hurt Andre all at the same time. Dick Murdoch, who believed in the myth of Andre, as did everyone at the time, came back and said that he thought Maeda was going to end Andre's career.

[Guest JMA]

Steve Austin vs. Raven

 

Steve Austin once exchanged heated words in a locker room with Raven. Debra was cutting a promo near the showers backstage, when Raven came out wearing nothing but a towel. Austin confronted him, grabbing Raven and verbally laying into him, feeling that Raven was showing off in front of his wife. Raven claimed he didn't know Debra was there. The situation was quelled quickly, but wrestlers have said Austin was always over-protective of Debra. Austin later apologized. Winner: None, but is there any doubt that Austin would have whipped his ass? (thanks to Troy Anthony)

There is serious doubt. All Raven would have had to do is go for the legs and the neck.

[Guest Boo_Bradley]

Rick Steiner vs. Corporal Cajun/Big Vito/Konnan

 

On three straight Nitro's prior the to sale of the WCW to WWFE, Rick Steiner took blatant liberties with all three men during singles match. Steiner, who has a reputation for being a tough guy, had no clear reason to shoot on these three men. For the record, all three of his opponents on these nights stayed professional and tried to work their parts in the match. Rumor has it that prior to the news that the WWF had bought the company, many people backstage were planning on running in during a Steiner match on the final Nitro to beat him down live on the show. Whether it would have happened or not we will ever know. WINNER: Steiner. I'm afraid to call him a loser.

 

 

MORE INFO:

 

These incidents with Rick Steiner getting overly stiff with his opponents appeared to be a hit mandated by someone in the office. The promotion was heading down for the count and scores were being settled. Konnan and Big Vito were far from popular in the back and Rick Steiner was giving them payback from someone for past transgressions. Cpl. Cajun/Lash LeRoux had fallen terribly out of shape during the MIA gimmick and was apparently being punished for not following orders to keep fit.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

RVD vs. Taz

 

After a match involving RVD and Sabu wound up Taz, he went around the ECW locker room saying he was gonna kick RVD's ass, Sabu's ass, etc. Word got around to Van Dam, who went up to Taz, and said "Pick the hand." Taz replied, "What?" and RVD punched him in the mouth. Taz went on the defensive, saying he didn't want to fight him. (thanks to HB2kBuzzsaw)

 

 

Dude

[Guest The Old Me]

I think much of that is bullshit.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Shawn refered to Marty as "his boy" and said he was trying to catch him on the phone when he was on Off the Record, making me think he did and still does get along with Marty.

[Guest alkeiper]

I think Bruiser Brody vs. Jose Gonzalez belongs on the top of that list.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

Capt. Lou Albano vs. Shane McMahon, late 80s

 

Albano was one of the people Vince Sr. asked Vince Jr. to "take care of" after he died. So Lou apparently tested this one out one day. An 11-yr-old Shane would always walk up to Lou and say, "What's up, Fatman?" This would **** Lou off and give the boys around a chuckle. One day Shane went up to Lou and said once again, "What's up, Fatman?" Lou reportedly told Shane if he called him Fatman one more time, he'd forget who he was and slap the taste out of his mouth. Sure enough, little Shane said, "No problem....Fatman." Then little Shane got slapped a good one! (thanks to Matt Mazany). WINNER: Shane, who will soon be the new owner of WWFE for decades to come.

 

Sid Vicious vs. A Squirrel

 

Vicious had a squirrel he took with him everywhere. Two wrestlers (I'm pretty sure one of them was Arn Anderson) bet him he couldn't keep the squirrel down his pants for a whole minute. Vicious accepted the challenge and stuck it down his pants. After about 30 seconds the squirrel bit a very sensitive area, if you get my drift. Vicious fell down in pain and crushed the squirrel. He needed a rabies shot and stitches on his genitalia. WINNER: The squirrel, who is now a hero to all squirrels worldwide for flattening Sid. (thanks to "Jesus ****** ")

 

Those two are the funniest of the bunch, IMO.

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

Sid vs Pillman is classic too.

[Guest The Old Me]

Sid vs anything can make for an interesting story.

[Guest webmasterofwrestlegame]

Rick Steiner also went ultra-stiff on Erik Watts once on an episode of Thunder.

 

Like, wouldn't even attempt to string a match together, adn just beat up on him. Steiner later defended it by saying Watts was cocky.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

I read Andre The Giant once sat on Bad News Allen in a match and shit his pants and wouldn't let Bad News up. Filth.

 

Andre use to rough up Hogan and John Studd also.

[Guest TheGame2705]

I dread to think what would have happened if Rick Steiner was around when Shawn Michaels got cocky.

 

Also you gotta believe if Vader actually hit Orndorff back it would have been different.

[Guest Nevermortal]

New Jack vs. Sandman

 

Don't know the specifics but allegedly New Jack overheard Sandman telling some racial joke. Jack jumped him and Sandman kicked his ass. Don't know if that's true but the story has gone around more than once. (thanks to David Crawford)

 

For some reason I don't believe that Sandman beat up New Jack.

[Zorin Industries 0]

Bradshaw vs. Duke Droese

 

There was a scene between Bradshaw and Duke the Dumpster Droese, that has gained some fame. Apparently, Droese was making homemade GHB, and slipping it into girls drinks and raping them. The wrestlers backstage had told him how distasteful it was. But someone got word of it, and told Bradshaw to take care of it. So he essentially tied Droese up in the shower, and the stories vary from there. The most widely told version would be that Droese ended up raped in some way shape or form. I am more likely to believe that Bradshaw just made him think he was going to get raped. (thanks to Chris)

 

 

I've never heard of this before, is it really true? I kind of doubt it.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Also you gotta believe if Vader actually hit Orndorff back it would have been different.

Heh... no shit, Game...

 

They'd probably still be picking up Orndorff's to this day.

[Guest HartFan86]

Great thread....I loved the Sid/Squrill one.

[Guest JHawk]

No mention of Danny Spivey vs. Adrian Adonis?

 

This comes from Dory Funk Jr.'s official site a couple of years ago. According to Dory, Adonis was a legit tough guy who liked to get into fights in the locker room with the young upstarts. Kind of a "paying your dues" thing. So in 1986, he came backstage and called out Spivey, who took Adonis down real fast.

 

I knew Adonis had to hate that "Adorable Adrian" gimmick, but damn man.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

Bradshaw vs. Duke Droese

 

There was a scene between Bradshaw and Duke the Dumpster Droese, that has gained some fame. Apparently, Droese was making homemade GHB, and slipping it into girls drinks and raping them. The wrestlers backstage had told him how distasteful it was. But someone got word of it, and told Bradshaw to take care of it. So he essentially tied Droese up in the shower, and the stories vary from there. The most widely told version would be that Droese ended up raped in some way shape or form. I am more likely to believe that Bradshaw just made him think he was going to get raped. (thanks to Chris)

 

 

I've never heard of this before, is it really true? I kind of doubt it.

Yah I'm pretty sure Droese would've been fired for that...oh wait. Still though I doubt.

 

Meh this pretty much cements what I've heard: Haku, Andre and Steiner are the toughest guys in the biz. Orndorff I didn't know was that tough, if this is true.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

During the Ultimate Warrior/Rick Rude program, Rude came back after the match & asked Warrior to "lighten up" a bit...Wariror got right in Rudes face & said, "I don't have to, cause I'm the Warrior." Rude knocked him silly with one punch & walked away.

 

LMAO

 

 

As for the Bagwell/Helms incident, after Marcus slapped him and walked away, Shane retaliated by hitting Bagwell in the back of the head with a frozen water bottle. OUCH! >_<

[Guest ShooterJay]

Hogan says in his book that Orndorff was by far one of the toughest guys he knew, so I don't doubt the stories about him.

 

Maxx Payne in his movie supposedly makes reference to some illicit behavior by the wrestlers during his stint as Man Mountain Rock, so the Droese story might be true.

 

BTW, wasn't "hb2kbuzzsaw" a previously banned poster here, or somebody who made an ass of himself here or something like that? It makes me doubt the validity of the stories that come from him.

[Guest Showstoppa Icon]

RVD vs. Taz

 

After a match involving RVD and Sabu wound up Taz, he went around the ECW locker room saying he was gonna kick RVD's ass, Sabu's ass, etc. Word got around to Van Dam, who went up to Taz, and said "Pick the hand." Taz replied, "What?" and RVD punched him in the mouth. Taz went on the defensive, saying he didn't want to fight him. (thanks to HB2kBuzzsaw)

 

 

Dude

i go to HB2kBuzzsaw for all my news lol, i hope some1 remembers the hb2kbuzzsaw joke

[Guest MideonMark]

Isnt New Jack supposed to be a legitimate badass, he seems to have gotten his ass handed to him in a few of those stories. Also I refuse to believe that Taz backed down from RVD, RVD just does not seem like a tough guy at all.

 

Wasnt there some sort of story going round that The Acolytes stiffed the hell out of the Public Enemy during their brief WWF stint, cause the PE were hated backstage?

 

I once heard something about an incident between Saturn and Rick Steiner, or maybe I just imagined that one. Wouldnt like to choose a winner between those two, Id probably bet on Saturn though.