Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Here's something ammusing I found on another forum- which one do you think is right- personally I reckon the HHH one makes a more reasoned arguement but his logic is totally flawed? opinons? bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 60 Points: 900 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #5 on: 09.07.03 at 22:14:42 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can honestly say I can find something entertaining about just about every wrestler in the wwe- Goldberg might not be the best worker but he exudes charisma and he has 'it' the thing that makes you a superstar.... HHH is just the fucking MAN though « Last Edit: 09.07.03 at 22:36:17 by Adminatude » Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! Adminatude *Administrator* Status: Offline Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Posts: 264 Points: 3960 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #6 on: 09.07.03 at 22:36:40 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on 09.07.03 at 22:14:42, bfgisgod wrote:I can honestly say I can find something entertaining about just about every wrestler in the wwe- Goldberg might not be the best worker but he exudes charisma and he has 'it' the thing that makes you a superstar.... HHH is just the fucking MAN though Goldberg dosent have any "charisma" If he had "charisma" he wouldnt suck on the mic and know how to act. yo rock you wana know whos next eh? your next arrrrrrrrrrrr -goldberg Jericho your nothin but an ass,you know that boy?-goldberg O MY GOD THAT MAN SUCKS IN THE RING AND IN THE MIC HHH is the fucking man? ok tell me how hes the man because i wrote all that shit the other day why i think he sucks. go on ahead Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH SUCKS bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 60 Points: 900 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #7 on: 09.07.03 at 22:46:50 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH is a consumate proffesional- he plays a heel purely by pissing the fans off not by playing them for laughs like Rock seems to do. Also HHH has loyalty to the business, he wrestles a full time schedule unlike Rocky who is always off shooting movies. HHH has a much more versaitle and complete set of moves than Rocky and is able to tell decent old school matches, he's learnt from the best of all time Ric Flair (who you probably think is crap aswell) Go and watch some of the HHH face matches and listen to the HHH chants- he can get them if he wants but the character he plays does not need chants as he has his own stable for support. As for your remarks about Austin- he's nothing but a retired wife beating drunk cripple who relies on an outdated punch kicking crappy brawling style and is on nowhere near the level of a wrestler that HHH is even now. Note that they did go with HHH/Hogan at Backlash and it did get a decent buyrate, i don't see any Austin/Hogan although they could do it at the time. Plus on top of all this, HHH has my respect beacause he s on top of the business, doing the job he loves, earns loads of money, has a mentor who is the greatest wrestler ever in Flair (also the FUCKING MAN) and is screwing the bosse's daughter. I respect him because he has done the absolute best for himself that he could possibly do and hopefully has a good few years left i him as a prominent main event player Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 60 Points: 900 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #8 on: 09.07.03 at 22:48:50 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goldberg has great in-ring charisma, he has an intensity in the ring similar to Malenko and he can tell a story in the ing without the use of crappy promos like the rock- if rock spent as much time on his matches as he did on his promos he would be a much better wrestler- if he ever bothered to wrestle that is.... Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! Adminatude *Administrator* Status: Offline Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Posts: 264 Points: 3960 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #9 on: 09.07.03 at 23:15:49 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH is a consumate proffesional- he plays a heel purely by pissing the fans off not by playing them for laughs like Rock seems to do. Rock Is An Proffesional Also,He Can Get HEEL Heat Anytime He Wants When Hes On The Mic.Hes Been An Proffesional Since 1998 When He Joined The Corporation.All Heels Piss The Fans Off HHH Isnt The Only One.He Dosent Suppose To Play Them For "Laughs" Like The Rock Because Hes The Rough Real Mean Heel While Rock Is The "Funny, Entertaining Heel. Every HEEL Cant Be The Same And In 1998 Rock Wasnt Trying To Be Funny At All,He Was Diffrent Back Them,Remember When He Was Calling People Trailor Park Trash? Roody Poo's?,etc And HHH Was A Heel In DX And He Was Playing The Fans For Laughs,So What You Gotta Say Now?Rock And HHH Both Switched Basically. Also HHH has loyalty to the business, he wrestles a full time schedule unlike Rocky who is always off shooting movies. Alot Of People Is Loyal To The Business Like Kurt Angle,Stone Cold For An Example,So Dont Act Like HHH Is The Only One. He Dont Always Wrestle A Full Time Schedule,I Can Remember Months Back After PPV's He Will Never Wrestle And SomeTimes It Will Be Weeks Until He Wrestles Once Again And By The Way Alot Wrestlers Wrestle A Full Time Schedule. Rocky Shoots Movies Because Hes "Popular" Unlike HHH Which Has Never Been In A Movie Ever,Rock Has Proved Why Hes One Of The Greatest So I Wouldnt Blame Him Taking Time Off From WWE Months And Months. HHH has a much more versaitle and complete set of moves than Rocky and is able to tell decent old school matches, he's learnt from the best of all time Ric Flair (who you probably think is crap aswell) HHH Dosent Have More Moves Than The Rock Watch How Many Moves ROCK Does In His Matches Compared To The HHH,HHH Does Knee Busters,Choke Holds,Figure 4,DDT's And Neck Breakers While Rock Does Rock Bottom,Sharpshooter,Clothesline,Samon Drop, Neck Breaker,DDT,BodySlam And More. What You Mean "Tell" Diffrent Old School Matches? Anyways HHH Didnt Learn Shi* From Flair Really,On Air They Say That But Not Off-Air And Flair Isnt The Greatest Of All Time,Please Tell Me Why You Think That And I Dont Think Hes "Crap" I Think He Sucks "Now" By The Way(Not In 80's,Early 90's) Because Hes Old And Slow. Go and watch some of the HHH face matches and listen to the HHH chants- he can get them if he wants but the character he plays does not need chants as he has his own stable for support. Dude,Hes Getting Chants Because Hes A "Face",LMAO. Duh His Character Dosent Need Chants Because Hes A Heel The Bad Guy Persona That Defeats Fans Favorite "Face" Wrestlers.Yeah The Sucky Stable By The Way. Evolution Is One Of The Worst Stables I Seen In My Life. As for your remarks about Austin- he's nothing but a retired wife beating drunk cripple who relies on an outdated punch kicking crappy brawling style and is on nowhere near the level of a wrestler that HHH is even now. Yeah Hes Retired Because Of Neck Problems And The Doctor Kept Telling Him That If He Wrestles With The Injury It Can End His Career So He Retired.So What He Beats His Wife,Your Point? Drunk? Yeah Thats His Gimmick,How Is He Cripple Please Tell Me. All The Moves You Said Austin Does Is The Same HHH Does,HHH Aint Nothin But A Punch,Kick Brawler,HHH Aint A Great Wrestler Like Beniot,Eddie,Rey For Example. Note that they did go with HHH/Hogan at Backlash and it did get a decent buyrate, i don't see any Austin/Hogan although they could do it at the time. I Know Hogan/HHH Took Place Last Year. It Got A Decent Buyrate Because Everyone Knew Hogan Was Gona Win The Undisputed Title,They Came To See Hogan Not HHH. Austin/Hogan Cant Take Place Because Austin Said Hes 99.9% Sure He's Never Gona Wrestle Again And I Think Hogan Is Done Also. Plus on top of all this, HHH has my respect beacause he s on top of the business, doing the job he loves, earns loads of money, has a mentor who is the greatest wrestler ever in Flair (also the FUCKING MAN) and is screwing the bosse's daughter. I respect him because he has done the absolute best for himself that he could possibly do and hopefully has a good few years left i him as a prominent main event player Hes On The Top Of The Business Because Hes Fuckin the Bosses Daughter,He See Vince All Day Probally,He Probally Give Him BlowJobs. He Does What He Loves Just Like Tons Of Others. Others Earn Loads Just Like HHH Also,SO Yeah What Does This Have To Do Why You Think HHH Is The Best?. I Respect Him In The Past But Not Now Because Hes Holding Back Talent,Hes Boring,etc. Flair The Greatest? Not True. « Last Edit: 09.07.03 at 23:19:13 by Adminatude » Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH SUCKS bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 60 Points: 900 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #10 on: Today at 20:17:06 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Rock Is An Proffesional Also,He Can Get HEEL Heat Anytime He Wants When Hes On The Mic' You've contradicted yourself there, if Rock was such a professional then why did he delibrately do a very babyface promo, effectively turning himself face and turning Goldberg heel just before the match that Rock was supposed to put Golberg over as Raw's leading face. Rock may cut decent promos but everyone including wrestlers such as Foley and Austin have said that Rock's promos are designed not to put an opponent over but just to make the Rock look great at the expense of the credibility of his opponent (read Foley's book) That's hardly proffesional going against managements wishes which were to keep Goldberg as a strong face and Rock as a heel. 'And HHH Was A Heel In DX And He Was Playing The Fans For Laughs,So What You Gotta Say Now?' HHH was a face in dx 1998, when he was a heel with Michaels in dx 97- he wasn't trying to play the fans for laughs- he was trying to offend as many people as possible as a way of getting the new attitude era over with the fans- this was very effective for getting Heat- watch No Way Out 1998 or listen to The HBK Shoot Interview for the evidence behind this. HHH only played the fans for laughs when he was a face or tweener in dx 1998 post HBK. HHH as said in several interviews that he prefers to play the proper heel as opposed to the one who getslaughs from the fans ie Rock 2003 'Alot Of People Is Loyal To The Business Like Kurt Angle,Stone Cold For An Example,So Dont Act Like HHH Is The Only One' I didn't say that HHH was the only one- but he does wrestle a much harder schedule than the Rock. When HHH went without wrestling between Royal Rumble and No Way Out earlier this year it was because of a serious blood clot in his leg- this in my view is a valid reason to not wrestle- going off to make movies is not- Wrestling is what made Rock famous so he should at least show some loyalty towards it. 'Rocky Shoots Movies Because Hes "Popular" Unlike HHH Which Has Never Been In A Movie Ever' The fact that Rock has been in movies and HHH hasn't doesn't effect my opinion of either of them as wrestlers. 'Rock Has Proved Why Hes One Of The Greatest So I Wouldnt Blame Him Taking Time Off From WWE Months And Months.' This is the very reason why I believe he isn't one fo the greatest- look how much time he takes off away from the business 'HH Does Knee Busters,Choke Holds,Figure 4,DDT's And Neck Breakers' Add shinbreakrs gordbusters, the anderson Spinebuster, Figure Four Leglock, Indian Deathlock, Mutoh Deathlock, Legbreakers, stalling suplex, superplex, high kneelift, facebusters and the pedigree to that list. +Rock's basic offence is pitiful- his punches don't connect and his bitch slaps are business exposing- all of his matches follow the same Hoganish pattern- babyface starts strong, gets beat down and ocmes back strong for win with crappy move- the peoples elbow is nothing but a crowd popper and cannot be taken seriously. Ric Flair is a friend of HHH's away from the ring and HHH has always said that Flair is his idol and he is his backstage mentor. btw if Flair isn't the greatest who do you think is? start a new thread and I'll tell what I think of Flair....... 'his Character Dosent Need Chants Because Hes A Heel ' (on HHH) So why when Rock was heel was he playing the rowd for chants? 'evolution Is One Of The Worst Stables I Seen In My Life.' How can a stable with a great Champion the Greatest ever in Flair and the unproven Orton be the worst ever- I mean if you don't like them you have to admit that shite like the oddities or the Dungeon of doom were much worse. 'So What He Beats His Wife,Your Point?' This means he doesn't have my respect as aperson- HHH does. A Great Wrestler Like Beniot,Eddie,Rey For Example. HHH is a great wrestler aswell- none of those have held the top wwe title though. 'It Got A Decent Buyrate Because Everyone Knew Hogan Was Gona Win The Undisputed Title' The decision for Hogan to win the title wasn't made unitl an hour before the show so that invalidates that arguement- the opinion in the iwc was HHH was going to retain. 'Austin/Hogan Cant Take Place Because Austin Said Hes 99.9% Sure He's Never Gona Wrestle Again And I Think Hogan Is Done Also.' Austin declined a program with Hogan in Spring 2002 so they gave it Rock as second choice. 'Hes On The Top Of The Business Because Hes Fuckin the Bosses Daughter' HHH started seeing Steph in Spring 2001- he was accepted as a creidble main eventer in autumn 1999 so that obviously isn't the case. 'Flair The Greatest? Not True.' Again start another thread if you want to diss THE FUCKING MAN Ric Flair Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Have you got the address? That's just crying out for an invasion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 10, 2003 "That Damn Good" or whatever his name was won that pretty easily. He actually presented reasons, and while I can see where the other guy was coming from... he just came off as stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 (edited) http://hiphopplanent.proboards19.com/ i think- I reckon the hhh guy won but I'll check back for updates!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT:- this is an open invitation for the person known s BFGUSGOD to join thesmartmarks forums courtesy of 4H- you will be welcomed into the ranks of the best HHH clique on the net- I would pm you but the froum you are on won't let me in anymore Edited July 10, 2003 by jm29195 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 The arguement continues..... Adminatude *Administrator* Status: Online Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Posts: 269 Points: 4035 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #11 on: Today at 22:41:32 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've contradicted yourself there, if Rock was such a professional then why did he delibrately do a very babyface promo, effectively turning himself face and turning Goldberg heel just before the match that Rock was supposed to put Golberg over as Raw's leading face. Rock may cut decent promos but everyone including wrestlers such as Foley and Austin have said that Rock's promos are designed not to put an opponent over but just to make the Rock look great at the expense of the credibility of his opponent (read Foley's book) That's hardly proffesional going against managements wishes which were to keep Goldberg as a strong face and Rock as a heel. Rock Stayed "HEEL" And Goldberg Stayed "Face" So I Dont Know What The Hell You Mean By That, Anyways Goldberg Sucks Thats Why He Was Boo'd Over The Rock,Rock Is Way Better Than Goldberg,Everyone In The WWE Is Better Than Goldberg Right Now,Even The Divas.Rock Never Cutted A "Face" Promo When He Fueded With Goldberg,He Was All Heel He Got Just Got Cheered Because Hes That Damn Entertaining. So I Guess Hogan Aint Proffesional Also Right Because He Got Cheered At Mania 18? And He Was "Heel",And I Guess Y2J Aint Proffesional Because He Got Cheered At JD When He Was Facing "Goldberg"?,haha Those 2 Are And Including The Rock. Everyonce In A While Heels Will Get Cheered. HHH was a face in dx 1998, when he was a heel with Michaels in dx 97- he wasn't trying to play the fans for laughs- he was trying to offend as many people as possible as a way of getting the new attitude era over with the fans- this was very effective for getting Heat- watch No Way Out 1998 or listen to The HBK Shoot Interview for the evidence behind this. HHH only played the fans for laughs when he was a face or tweener in dx 1998 post HBK. HHH as said in several interviews that he prefers to play the proper heel as opposed to the one who getslaughs from the fans ie Rock 2003 Actually He Was Trying To Make The Fans Laugh When He Was With Shawn,So Thats A Lie.Offend Who? Vince,Well Him Offending Vince Is Getting Fans To Laugh And He Knew That O And By The Way Last Year During The Katie Vick Storyline He Was Playing The Fans For Laugh And He Was A Heel,So What Cha Gotta Say Now? Like I Said Rock Was A More Serious HEEL In 1998-1999 From Now Just Like HHH,They Switch All The Time, Blah. idn't say that HHH was the only one- but he does wrestle a much harder schedule than the Rock. When HHH went without wrestling between Royal Rumble and No Way Out earlier this year it was because of a serious blood clot in his leg- this in my view is a valid reason to not wrestle- going off to make movies is not- Wrestling is what made Rock famous so he should at least show some loyalty towards it. -He Wrestle A Much Harder Schedule Than The Rock Because Rock Is Making Movies. -What The Hell? HHH Wrestled Steiner At Royal Rumble, HHH Wrestled Steiner At No Way Out Also,So What The Hell You Talking About? -If Rock Wana Make Movies Let Him,Its Nothin Wrong With That But Holding Back Talent Is. -Rock Has Showed Loyal To WWE Since 1996 So Why Should He Still Continue?,geeez The Man Dosent Only Have To Wrestle.He Should Do Other Things With His Life,I Dont Blame The Man At All. very reason why I believe he isn't one fo the greatest- look how much time he takes off away from the business This Is All You Talk About "Rock Takes Time Away From The Business",geez So What Just Because He Takes Time Away From The Business Is Because Hes An ICON And He Is One Of The Greatest He Has Done Everything In The WWE,7 Time WWE Champion,Former IC,Tag Champion,etc He Has Headlined 2 WM's,He Has Defeated Hogan Twice,He Has Defeated People Like Angle,Beniot,Austin,etc So Whats Left That He Has To Prove? The Man Is One Of The Greatest.You Cant Deny That And At WM 20 Watch Rock Defeat Goldberg. shinbreakrs gordbusters, the anderson Spinebuster, Figure Four Leglock, Indian Deathlock, Mutoh Deathlock, Legbreakers, stalling suplex, superplex, high kneelift, facebusters and the pedigree to that list. Shin? He Does That,Gord? No He Dont,Spine? HHH Never Does That,Figure? Yeah I Said That, Indian? Thats What He Calls The Figure Basically, Mutoh? Same As Figure,Leg Breakers? Nothin But Kicks,Suplex? Yeah,Kneelife? That Sucks, Face Busters? Same As DDT,I Said That,Pedigree? Not A Move,Thats A Finisher But Rock Still Has More. Want Me To Name All Rock Moves? basic offence is pitiful- his punches don't connect and his bitch slaps are business exposing- all of his matches follow the same Hoganish pattern- babyface starts strong, gets beat down and ocmes back strong for win with crappy move- the peoples elbow is nothing but a crowd popper and cannot be taken seriously. Ric Flair is a friend of HHH's away from the ring and HHH has always said that Flair is his idol and he is his backstage mentor. btw if Flair isn't the greatest who do you think is? start a new thread and I'll tell what I think of Flair....... -His Punches Does Connect,What You Talking About? You Must Got The Rock Mixed Up With Hogan,lmao -Rock Dosent Does Hogan Move Patterns,All Hogan Does Is Punches,Sleepers,Bodyslam, And Rock Dont Do That Over 5 Times. -Same As HHH,He Gets beat Down And Wins The Match, Watch Him Wrestle RVD 2 Weeks Ago? He Got His Ass Kicked And Boom he wins The Match,Rock Dosent Really Do What U Said By The Way. -Yep True And Just Like Leg Drop,Worm, Gore,.Many Others Also -Whos The Greatest? I''ll Start A Thread And Say Who In A Few. So why when Rock was heel was he playing the rowd for chants? How You Figure The Rock Was Playing The Crowd For Chants? When He Re-Turned He Dissed The Crowd City And He Got Boo And Some reason They Started To Like That Weeks Later So he Got Cheered Because Hes Entertaing on The Mic Unlike HHH. How can a stable with a great Champion the Greatest ever in Flair and the unproven Orton be the worst ever- I mean if you don't like them you have to admit that shite like the oddities or the Dungeon of doom were much worse. Easy,Flair Sucks Now,So The Stable Sucks Orton Sucks On The Mic And In The Ring,He Cant Get Heel Heat. They ALL SUCK And All Of Them Cant Wrestle,Batista Only Did 2 Moves,LMAO And By The Way You Said Up-Top That ROCK Aint Proffesional because He Gets Cheered Well HHH Got Cheered At NWO 2003,So What Cha Gotta Say About That? This means he doesn't have my respect as aperson- HHH does. You Respect A Man That Holds Back Talent? Ok Whatever HHH is a great wrestler aswell- none of those have held the top wwe title though. -HHH Aint A Great Wrestler -Beniot Has Held The WCW Title -Rey Is A Cruiser So Thats Why He Aint Never Held The WWE Title But Hes The CW Champ -Eddie Has Held The European Title Austin declined a program with Hogan in Spring 2002 so they gave it Rock as second choice. Yep Because ROCK Was The 2nd Best In The Business unlike HHH.,HAHAHA HHH started seeing Steph in Spring 2001- he was accepted as a creidble main eventer in autumn 1999 so that obviously isn't the case. If Im Not Mistaken In 2001 He Tore His Squad So Thats Why He Didnt Get The Chance To Hold Back Talet But Basically He Was Until he Tore His Squad Because He Was The IC Champ,Tag Champ At The Same Time,Remember 2 Man Power Trip w/ Austin? He Was Holding Back Talent Then. Again start another thread if you want to diss THE FUCKING MAN Ric Flair YEAH THE FUCKIN OLD MAN FLAIR THAT SUCKS Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH SUCKS Adminatude *Administrator* Status: Online Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Posts: 269 Points: 4035 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #12 on: Today at 22:49:01 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on 09.07.03 at 22:48:50, bfgisgod wrote:Goldberg has great in-ring charisma, he has an intensity in the ring similar to Malenko and he can tell a story in the ing without the use of crappy promos like the rock- if rock spent as much time on his matches as he did on his promos he would be a much better wrestler- if he ever bothered to wrestle that is.... O MY GOD DUDE ARE YOU ON CRACK? Goldberg aint great in the ring,he cant even do spinning wheel kicks,jumping kicks without falling on his ass, he sucks and he cant sell or punch right. he cant wrestle, fuck him and his 2 moves. please dont compare him to malenko because malenko is a way better wrestler than him,i understand if you compared goldberg to batista or nathan jones. WTF? Have you ever heard Goldberg on the Mic at all? Damn man go to other forums and you see them diss him because he sucks in the ring and on the mic,all he dosent have the voice and all he says his "punk" and "boy" man when have goldberg ever cut a good promo? crappy promos? ok did u see rock promo after WM this year and NWO this year? did u see rock promo after survivor series 1998,did u see his great promos after that? the rock is good on the mic heel and face,thats why he was nominated this year for the "raws" great on the mic award, damn dude your,nevermind im not gona say it. rock "did" spend alot of time on his matches but not now because theres no use to put him in a fued when he is gona leave again Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH SUCKS bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 67 Points: 1005 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #13 on: Today at 23:42:47 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Rock Stayed "HEEL" And Goldberg Stayed "Face" So I Dont Know What The Hell You Mean By That,' So why was Rock face next time he showed up in a non-wrestling (of course) capacity and why did the anti- Goldberg chants occur during the match- that would have nothing to do with the Rock's pre match face promo now would it?? 'So I Guess Hogan Aint Proffesional Also Right Because He Got Cheered At Mania 18?' The cheers were there but Hogan didn't elp matters by playing to the cowd in a face manner before and after the match- stealing the spotlight form his opponent... hmmm maybe Rock learned something there? 'Actually He Was Trying To Make The Fans Laugh When He Was With Shawn' No really he wasn't- read the Shawn Michaels interview over at 411 and you'll see what Vince's plan for HHH and HBK was during this time- they were booked as a more edgy version of the nWo, probably what you saw as 'humour' was when they were breaking with kayfabe and tradition in order to pull new viewers in or the new attitude project that Vince was planning- and they were successfull as along with Stone Cold, they were instrumental in WWF turning the corner in late 97-early 98. 'What The Hell? HHH Wrestled Steiner At Royal Rumble, HHH Wrestled Steiner At No Way Out Also,So What The Hell You Talking About?' I think the same could be applied to you as the above statement makes no sense in relation to what either of us have said previously- it really is totally unrelated- I fail to see your logic here '-Rock Has Showed Loyal To WWE Since 1996 So Why Should He Still Continue?,' HHH has been there since 95 but that's beside the point, we're talking about wrestling here so I couldn't care less whether Rock was going off to make movies or be a chicken farmer- the point is he's not actually wrestling. 'He Is One Of The Greatest He Has Done Everything In The WWE,7 Time WWE Champion,Former IC,Tag Champion,etc He Has Headlined 2 WM's' If you want to talk about resumes ok:- HHH has Held the undisputed title once Held the wwe title 6 times Held the ic belt twice Held the Euro belt once Held the tag belts once Been KOTR in 97 Won the Royal Rumble in 2002 Headlined Wrestlemania twice Had the longest title reign since Hogan in the early 90's Beaten every single current wwe headliner except Goldberg- which he will at Summerslam, and Brock (who is on a different program) However even when you take all tihs into account you have to say that it is all down to booking and with HHH's stranglehold on the booking of Raw (something which I respect him for) he will continue to add achievments to his long list. Rock however, probably won't as he is only wrestling part time (if at all) now. 'Shin? He Does That,Gord? No He Dont,Spine? HHH Never Does That,Figure? Yeah I Said That, Indian? Thats What He Calls The Figure Basically, Mutoh? Same As Figure,Leg Breakers? Nothin But Kicks,Suplex? Yeah,Kneelife? That Sucks, Face Busters? Same As DDT,I Said That,Pedigree? Not A Move,Thats A Finisher But Rock Still Has More. Want Me To Name All Rock Moves?' HHH does the spine buster n a regular basis, it seems to be a basic main event move nowadays and he seems to do it top ay homage to Arn Anderson HHH's indian deathlock looks nothing like a figure 4 leglock and his mutoh deathlock has him arching backwards over his opponent to put him in a stf so it's obviously not the same as a figure 4. A legbreaker is when he akes out his opponents lower leg from behind with a single arm takedown. The face buster is totally different form a ddt in that he uses his knee. 'Pedigree? Not A Move,Thats A Finisher ' The pedigree is a move- it's technical name is probably sometihng like a double underhook face forward piledriver or facebuster but don't quote me on that. It is a move much as in the same way that the technical name for the rock bottom is a uranage or a variation on a sambo suplex depending on how he does it. 'His Punches Does Connect,What You Talking About?' No really they don't and they look totally ineffective, much like RVD's forearms. '-Yep True And Just Like Leg Drop,Worm, Gore,.Many Others Also' The gore isn't a flashy move- have you ever been tackled by a man built like Rhyno running at you full pelt- it hurts- try playing rugby some time if you don't believe me. 'How You Figure The Rock Was Playing The Crowd For Chants?' That would be when he kept mentioning the fans or the town they were in in order to get a response. 'Easy,Flair Sucks Now,So The Stable Sucks Orton Sucks On The Mic And In The Ring,He Cant Get Heel Heat. They ALL SUCK And All Of Them Cant Wrestle' Flair doesn't suck now- he's still assable in the ring and easilly the best promo man on Raw imo. Orton is improving in the ring and he is geting decent heel heat recently. Now you're just making sweeping generalisations without backing your arguements up, they obviously can wrestle or they wouldn't have garnered a top spot on Raw (oh wait what about Nash...) 'HHH Aint A Great Wrestler'- yes he is- see my previous arguements. -'Beniot Has Held The WCW Title' but that isn't a major wwe title and he only held for one day. -'Rey Is A Cruiser So Thats Why He Aint Never Held The WWE Title But Hes The CW Champ' he could be if booked correctly but that isn't going to happen. -'Eddie Has Held The European Title' thata isn't a major wwe singles title thoiugh. 'Yep Because ROCK Was The 2nd Best In The Business unlike HHH.,HAHAHA' Actually HHH was already programed into winning the wwe title in the main event o wresltemania that year so it couldn't have that bad a loss for him- and by the time they had signed Hogan for No Way Out 2002 HHH was already feuding with Jericho and they couldn't have changed that without really disrupting the build to the show. 'If Im Not Mistaken In 2001 He Tore His Squad So Thats Why He Didnt Get The Chance To Hold Back Talet But Basically He Was Until he Tore His Squad Because He Was The IC Champ,Tag Champ At The Same Time,Remember 2 Man Power Trip w/ Austin? He Was Holding Back Talent Then.' Yes but you were directly linking all of his main event acomplshments to being with Steph whcich is untrue because he was a main eventer in 1999- they got together in 2001. 'YEAH THE FUCKIN OLD MAN FLAIR THAT SUCKS' Very mature well done for presenting a well balanced and reasonable arguement there adminitude Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! Compelling stuff here folks- I still thibk HHH guy is winning though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Hell, 4H should go over there, and stick up for their man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Wow I Just Cant Get Over How Anyone Can Type Like This,And Have It Not Be A Gimmick ,Its Not Like When NBT Had A Broken Spacebar I Mean How Could Your Shift Key Be Broken But Only For Every Letter That Conveniently Starts A New Word LoLZ~!@ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 The arguement continues:- So why was Rock face next time he showed up in a non-wrestling (of course) capacity and why did the anti- Goldberg chants occur during the match- that would have nothing to do with the Rock's pre match face promo now would it? Dont Blame ROCK Because Hes Better Than Goldberg, The Person Berg Was Facing Was A Mid-Carder So Thats Why.I Hope You Dont Think Berg Is Better Than The Rock,If So Than Somethin Is Wrong With U. The cheers were there but Hogan didn't elp matters by playing to the cowd in a face manner before and after the match- stealing the spotlight form his opponent... hmmm maybe Rock learned something there? -Yes He Did,He Always,He Does His Little Taunt With His Hands And At WM 18 He Taunted The Crowd Before And After. -When Does Rock Steal Spotlight? And By The Way HHH Has Stealed The Whole Raw Roster SpotLight. No really he wasn't- read the Shawn Michaels interview over at 411 and you'll see what Vince's plan for HHH and HBK was during this time- they were booked as a more edgy version of the nWo, probably what you saw as 'humour' was when they were breaking with kayfabe and tradition in order to pull new viewers in or the new attitude project that Vince was planning- and they were successfull as along with Stone Cold, they were instrumental in WWF turning the corner in late 97-early 98. The Plan Was For To Be HEEL Months Ago,Thats How He Was Booked But Still Got Cheers Just Like DX. HHH has been there since 95 but that's beside the point, we're talking about wrestling here so I couldn't care less whether Rock was going off to make movies or be a chicken farmer- the point is he's not actually wrestling. Huh? If You Care Less About Rock Going Off Then Why You Keep Brining It Up About Him Not Being Loyal To The WWE And Leaving? Duh Hes Not Wrestling If Hes Gone And HHH Only Wrestled Twice A Month,And Thats Sad. Dont Sit There And Act Like HHH Wrestles Everydamn Week. Had the longest title reign since Hogan in the early 90's Beaten every single current wwe headliner except Goldberg- which he will at Summerslam, and Brock (who is on a different program) However even when you take all tihs into account you have to say that it is all down to booking and with HHH's stranglehold on the booking of Raw (something which I respect him for) he will continue to add achievments to his long list. Rock however, probably won't as he is only wrestling part time (if at all) now. -Not True,Diseal Held The Title A Year In 1995 Or 1996(Forgot) So Sorry Not True -He Wont Beat Goldberg At SS,Vince Made A Deal That Berg Will Not Job To Brock And HHH,So HHH Will Lose The Title At SS.(Thank God) -Yep He Will Beat People That Is Better Than Him,Which Sucks. -There You Go Again Talking About ROCK Leaving,Gosh Man Will You Ever Shut Up About Him? He Has Did Everything In The WWE To Do. -7 Time WWE Champion(unlike HHH) -1 Time Undisputed Champion -2 Time Tag Team Champion -Former IC Champion -Headlined WM More Than 5 Times -Defeated The Legend Hogan Twice(Unlike HHH) -Has Defeated HHH,Kurt Angle,Beniot,Austin, Edge,Big Show,Hogan,Booker T,RVD And More, He Has Proved His "Greatness" Dude Just Like Austin. Him And Austin Dont Have To Wrestle Anymore Because They Have Did Everything. -He Will Headline WM 19(Gona Face Goldberg) Many More Accomplishments..... So Please Be Quiet About Him Leaving God And O By The Way Rock Is A Time WCW Champion. The pedigree is a move- it's technical name is probably sometihng like a double underhook face forward piledriver or facebuster but don't quote me on that. It is a move much as in the same way that the technical name for the rock bottom is a uranage or a variation on a sambo suplex depending on how he does it. No Its Not A Move No really they don't and they look totally ineffective, much like RVD's forearms. HHH's Does Also The gore isn't a flashy move- have you ever been tackled by a man built like Rhyno running at you full pelt- it hurts- try playing rugby some time if you don't believe me. A Rock Bottom Should Hurt Also Because The Hard Landing On Your Back And The Peoples Elbow Should Also Because Of The Elbow Hittin Your Chest. That would be when he kept mentioning the fans or the town they were in in order to get a response. HE SUPPOSE TO,ALOT OF WRESTLERS DO THAT LIKE Y2J,CENA,ETC THEY TRY TO GET HEEL HEAT AND IT WORKS Flair doesn't suck now- he's still assable in the ring and easilly the best promo man on Raw imo. Orton is improving in the ring and he is geting decent heel heat recently. Now you're just making sweeping generalisations without backing your arguements up, they obviously can wrestle or they wouldn't have garnered a top spot on Raw (oh wait what about Nash...) -Flair Does Suck Now,He Makes Wrestling Look So Fake When He Wabbles AND Fall Down,Hes Slow,He Sucks He Needs To Retire. -Y2J Is The Best PROMO Cutter On Raw IMO -When Does Orton Get Heel Heat? All I Hear Is WOOOOO,Check Out Other Wrestling Forums They Even Say He Dont Get Heel Heat. -You Dont Have To Be A Good Wrestler To Be Signed By Vince,ex. Goldberg -HHH Cant Wrestle,Wrestling Is What Rey,Eddie,Beniot(Ya Know Does)Anyone Can Kick,Punch,Clothesline -Orton,Flair Can Though yes he is- see my previous arguements. No He Cant-See My Previous Argument Up Top -'Beniot Has Held The WCW Title' but that isn't a major wwe title and he only held for one day. It Was The Top Title In WCW,And Guess What HHH Is Holding That Title So I Guess It Aint Major Because Brock Has The Real Title -'Rey Is A Cruiser So Thats Why He Aint Never Held The WWE Title But Hes The CW Champ' he could be if booked correctly but that isn't going to happen. -'Eddie Has Held The European Title' thata isn't a major wwe singles title thoiugh. -Rey Has Been Booked Correctly,He Has Fough Guys Like Angle,Nash,Show,Scott Hall And Now Hes A CW Champ And Hes A Former Tag Champ By The Way -It Is MAJOR Because Guys Like HBK,HHH,,etc Has Held It,If It Wasnt "Major" It Wouldnt Of Been Brough In,In The 1st Place. Yes but you were directly linking all of his main event acomplshments to being with Steph whcich is untrue because he was a main eventer in 1999- they got together in 2001. In 1999 Austin Was As Worse As HHH Is Now And Austin Was The Top Dog In 1999 And He Was Always Champ,He Used To Sit In Book Meetings. HHH Couldnt Hold Back Talent Then Because Of "Austin" And In 1999 WWE Had Good Writers. more later when HHH guy responds.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 my god, talk about revenge of the marks... I think that place is in some serious need of smarking up! *crap gimmick mode now off* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 11, 2003 You've contradicted yourself there, if Rock was such a professional then why did he delibrately do a very babyface promo, effectively turning himself face and turning Goldberg heel just before the match that Rock was supposed to put Golberg over as Raw's leading face. Rock may cut decent promos but everyone including wrestlers such as Foley and Austin have said that Rock's promos are designed not to put an opponent over but just to make the Rock look great at the expense of the credibility of his opponent (read Foley's book) That's hardly proffesional going against managements wishes which were to keep Goldberg as a strong face and Rock as a heel. This guy is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 11, 2003 BTW, this is proof that HHH Marks are inherently superior to Rock marks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 HHH guy strikes back- 4H lives on!! bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 69 Points: 1035 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #18 on: Today at 20:43:08 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ummmmmmmmm nope, I prefer arguing with you adminitude ‘Yes He Did,He Always,He Does His Little Taunt With His Hands And At WM 18 He Taunted The Crowd Before And After.’ No he didn’t- Hollywood Hulk Hogan never did his babyface ear-cup to the crowd routine during his initial N W O wcw run and this was one of the reasons he garnered decent heel heat during this time. I believe that Hulk Hogan went into Wrestlemania 18 planning to upstage the Rock and turn face in the process- he really is one of the best backstage politicians around- but behind HHH of course. Hogan’s ‘taunting’ of the crowd at Wrestlemania was in reality his same old face routine- if you want proof of this check out Hogan’s post match celebration with Ultimate Warrior for another example of Hogan pretending to ‘put his opponent over’ while in reality leaving looking better than ever in the fan’s eyes. ‘The Plan Was For To Be HEEL Months Ago,Thats How He Was Booked But Still Got Cheers Just Like DX’ But HHH and Michaels didn’t play to the crowd to garner cheers, indeed they were the exact opposite, hurling abuse at the crowd to get effective heel heat. For good examples see Michael’s pre match antics at One Night Only or HHH and HBK’s riot causing actions at house shows and the pre wrestlemania XIV workout. ‘Huh? If You Care Less About Rock Going Off Then Why You Keep Brining It Up About Him Not Being Loyal To The WWE And Leaving?’ I’m just responding to your constant actions justifying Rock’s many leaves of absences from the WWE ’Duh Hes Not Wrestling If Hes Gone And HHH Only Wrestled Twice A Month,And Thats Sad. Dont Sit There And Act Like HHH Wrestles Everydamn Week.’ HHH only wrestled twice a month earlier this year because he was injured- I’ve said that already. HHH does wrestle at least 3 times a week as he works a full house show schedule- unlike Rock who only shows up occasionally to cut a promo, never works house shows (he only worked one this year and only because helived just down the road from it) HHH works house shows to try to boost the WWE’s main flow of income which comes from house show revenue. If Rock was so loyal to the business then maybe he should contribute to the WWE’s main flow of income. ‘-Not True,Diseal Held The Title A Year In 1995 Or 1996(Forgot) So Sorry Not True’ Correct there but HHH’s title reign has been a marginally better draw than Nash’s one was. -He Wont Beat Goldberg At SS,Vince Made A Deal That Berg Will Not Job To Brock And HHH,So HHH Will Lose The Title At SS.(Thank God) HHH is basically Vince’s son in law at this point and he has much more influence than Goldberg. If Goldberg refuses to job to HHH then he will be forced to quit the company and realistically Goldberg is far more likely to leave the WWE than HHH. ‘No Its Not A Move’ (On the pedigree) Explain please…. ‘And The Peoples Elbow Should Also Because Of The Elbow Hittin Your Chest.’ Not anymore than a normal elbow hitting your chest would, running around and swinging your arms does not make a move any more damaging and thus the people’s elbow is nothing more than an elaborate taunt and not by any means a credible finishing move. ‘HE SUPPOSE TO,ALOT OF WRESTLERS DO THAT LIKE Y2J,CENA,ETC THEY TRY TO GET HEEL HEAT AND IT WORKS’ It’s called ‘cheap heat’ for a reason you know, Mick Foley even made a running gag about it with his cheap pop theory. ’-Flair Does Suck Now,He Makes Wrestling Look So Fake When He Wabbles AND Fall Down,Hes Slow,He Sucks He Needs To Retire.’ Flair’s ‘Wabbles AND Fall Down’ is probably the Flair Flop, a crowd popping manouver in much the same vein as your beloved peoples elbow- it’s one of his signature manouvers and he has been doing it for years. Flair, even in his deteriorated state is still a much better pure wrestler than Rock will ever be. ‘You Dont Have To Be A Good Wrestler To Be Signed By Vince,ex. Goldberg’ My Nash comment was sarcasm if you didn’t realise…… ‘When Does Orton Get Heel Heat?’ See Raw this week or when he cut that promo on Foley after Bad Blood ‘-It Is MAJOR Because Guys Like HBK,HHH,,etc Has Held It,If It Wasnt "Major" It Wouldnt Of Been Brough In,In The 1st Place.’ The title wasn’t major back then either. It was created as a trophy belt for Bulldog, he was jobbed to HBK to piss off Bret Hart, HBK basically gave it to HHH further removing credibility and HHH at the time was hardly a major star. Notice that the European Title hasn’t been brought back along with the equally venerable Hardcore title so it can’t be that major. (On Austin)’He Used To Sit In Book Meetings. HHH Couldnt Hold Back Talent Then Because Of "Austin" And In 1999 WWE Had Good Writers.’ HHH couldn’t hold back talent because Austin was already doing it. He refused to work with Jarrett and Billy Gunn and wouldn’t put over HHH at Summerslam 1999. You call Russo a decent writer?? Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 The feud continues- Rock guy strikes back!!!! Adminatude *Administrator* Status: Online Rocky! Rocky! Rocky! Posts: 274 Points: 4110 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #19 on: Today at 21:43:25 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ummmmmmmmm nope, I prefer arguing with you adminitude Ok Continue To Look Like An Idiot In This Argument No he didn’t- Hollywood Hulk Hogan never did his babyface ear-cup to the crowd routine during his initial N W O wcw run and this was one of the reasons he garnered decent heel heat during this time. I believe that Hulk Hogan went into Wrestlemania 18 planning to upstage the Rock and turn face in the process- he really is one of the best backstage politicians around- but behind HHH of course. Hogan’s ‘taunting’ of the crowd at Wrestlemania was in reality his same old face routine- if you want proof of this check out Hogan’s post match celebration with Ultimate Warrior for another example of Hogan pretending to ‘put his opponent over’ while in reality leaving looking better than ever in the fan’s eyes. Yes He Did-He Always Did It When He Was In NWO And He Will Get Some Cheers But Not Much Because Well He Was The "Bad Guy",Hogan Will Never Go In The Ring And Just Walk Around And Wait For His Opponent,He Has To Always "Ear-Cup" The Crowd, After He Wrestled Rock At WrestleMania 18 He Stopped The Rock And He Asked The Rock To Ear Cup With Him. Anyways,Yeah I Know Hes One Of The Best Politicans Around,Hes Been For A Long Damn Time.I Dont Know What The Hell You Talking About At The Last Few Sentences So Im Done About This 'For Now". But HHH and Michaels didn’t play to the crowd to garner cheers, indeed they were the exact opposite, hurling abuse at the crowd to get effective heel heat. For good examples see Michael’s pre match antics at One Night Only or HHH and HBK’s riot causing actions at house shows and the pre wrestlemania XIV workout. How You Know HHH/Michaels Didnt Play The Crowd For Cheers? So When Rock Gets The Crowd To Laugh Hes Playing Them For Cheers? But When HHH/HBK "Had" The Fans Laughing,They Didnt ? I Dont Get It Man. Thats Like Saying Hogan Plays Backstage Politics "Which Is True" And Saying "HHH Aint" Because Your A Fan.Anyways Yep Thats What Rock Did A Few Months Ago,He Abused The Crowd And He Got HEEL Heat, I Got It Recored On Tape.Thats All The Rock Wanted And He Got It,Thats Why He Said "You Listen To What The Rock Is Gona Say And Then You Decide If Your Gona Chant ROCKY Or Not"! He Was Annoyed By Them Chanting His Name And Its "True".Rock Wasnt Playing The Fans To Chant His Name Or "Laugh" At His Jokes. I’m just responding to your constant actions justifying Rock’s many leaves of absences from the WWE I Hope You Will Shut Up About Him Leaving *prays* HHH only wrestled twice a month earlier this year because he was injured- HHH Hasnt Been Injured At All This Year Man So Dont Lie, Since Hes Been "World Champ" He Got Injured Once And That Was In The Chamber At Survivor Series In November "02". HHH Barley Wrestles,All He Does Is Wrestle At PPV's Half Of The Time And Wins And He Does The Same Thing Over Again. He Bores The Hell Out Of The Crowd On The Mic,You Said "Rock Needs To Wrestle More Instead Of Running His Mouth On The Mic" Well HHH Needs To Do The Same.I Dont Know Why The Man Dont Wrestle Everyweek. HHH does wrestle at least 3 times a week as he works a full house show schedule- unlike Rock who only shows up occasionally to cut a promo, never works house shows (he only worked one this year and only because helived just down the road from it) Does He Wrestle All The Time On "Camera",Nope Dont Think So.Anyways There You Go Again Dissing The Rock Again,Let Me Tell You Something The Reason Why Rock Only Cut Promos "Now" Is Because He Theres No Use To Put Him In A Match Or Fued When Hes Gona Leave,By The Way Rock Does Wrestle Atleast 3 Matches When He Returns From Maving Movies(Months Ago He Wrestled Goldberg,Hurricane And Jeff Hardy).Atleast The Rock Is Entertaining On The Mic UnLike HHH,Other People On The Internet Will Tell You That,HHH Sucks On The Mic,All He Says "Im The Game And I Will Kick Your Ass" *yawn*. HHH works house shows to try to boost the WWE’s main flow of income which comes from house show revenue. If Rock was so loyal to the business then maybe he should contribute to the WWE’s main flow of income. HHH "Try" Yep Your Correct But He "Dont" Because Hes Not A *HUGE* Draw Anymore Like He Used To Be, People Like Kurt Angle,Cena,Eddie,Brock,etc Now Not Has Been Hunter Helmsly. He Dont Bring In Any Ratings On Raw,Soon As He Got Handed The World Title,The Ratings Drop,Now That Kane Has A Storyline Now The Ratings Are *High*,When Austin/Rock Returned Ratings Increased Like Atleast .4 Higher Everyweek,Soon Rock Left Ratings Went Down,When Austin is On Raw Ratings Are Up. Its Sad That The World Champ Cant Draw Like The General Manager,lmao. There You Go Again Talking About Rock Not Being Loyal,Im Tired Of Explaining Why He Dont Have To Be *Loyal* Anymore. If HHH Cared About The Company He Will Drop The Title,Leave For A Year But No He Wont The Title All To Him Self,Damn He Needs To Drop The Damn Title Now. Correct there but HHH’s title reign has been a marginally better draw than Nash’s one was. True!,But HHH Hasnt Drawn Since Hes Been World Champ,Its Not A Opinion Its A "Fact" Because I Have *Proof*. HHH is basically Vince’s son in law at this point and he has much more influence than Goldberg. If Goldberg refuses to job to HHH then he will be forced to quit the company and realistically Goldberg is far more likely to leave the WWE than HHH. -HHH Is Vince Son In Law,True.Thats Why He Gets To Hold Back Talent. -Dude,Golberg/Vince Made A Deal,Goldberg Said He Will Not Sign If He Had To JOB To Brock And HHH Vince Said Ok And Goldberg Signed,It Wont Happen Man. -Goldberg Is Next World Champion At SummerSlam Buddy. Explain please…. Why Should I? I'll Be Wasting My Time Not anymore than a normal elbow hitting your chest would, running around and swinging your arms does not make a move any more damaging and thus the people’s elbow is nothing more than an elaborate taunt and not by any means a credible finishing move. Pedigree Aint Nothin But A "Flatliner" But The Opponets Head Is In Between The Persons 2 Legs,The Only Thing The PED Seems To Hurt Is The Opponents "Face". It’s called ‘cheap heat’ for a reason you know, Mick Foley even made a running gag about it with his cheap pop theory. True And It Works Also,Ask HHH,He Knows About It Flair’s ‘Wabbles AND Fall Down’ is probably the Flair Flop, a crowd popping manouver in much the same vein as your beloved peoples elbow- it’s one of his signature manouvers and he has been doing it for years. Flair, even in his deteriorated state is still a much better pure wrestler than Rock will ever be. When Flair "Wabbles And Fall Down" He Dont Get A *Pop* And Its Not The Same As The Peoples Elbow Man. Yep Hes Been Doing For Years And Hes Been Making Himself LooK Stupid Also. Nope, Flair Aint Better Than The Rock,He Wasnt Even Better Than The Rock In His Prime. See Raw this week or when he cut that promo on Foley after Bad Blood -Yep I Seen Raw And He Didnt Get HEEL Heat There Was "Wooooooooooo's" -Yep After Bad Blood And That Was The 1st Time He Ever Got HEEL Heat And Ever Since Then He Hasnt Got Anymore. He Looks At The Crowd And Trys But He Dont Get It. Notice that the European Title hasn’t been brought back along with the equally venerable Hardcore title so it can’t be that major. Eurpoean Aint Gona Be Brought Back Because Of The Roster Split. Raw-Women (Womens Title),Mid Carder (IC Title) Tag(Tag Title),Main-Event(World Title) Why Should It Come Back? SD-Cruiser(CW Title),Mid-Carder(U.S. Title) Tag(Tag Title),Main-Event(WWE Title) Why Should It Come Back? -Its Not Needed And The Hardcore Title Didnt Come Back Because Its Not Needed Either. HHH couldn’t hold back talent because Austin was already doing it. -Yeah,Thats What I Said You call Russo a decent writer?? Hes Ok,Look At Attiude Era Storylines,They Rocked!(Well Some) Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HHH SUCKS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 And here comes hhh guy with his witty repertoire... bfgisgod *Moderator* Status: Online I am that damn good Gender: Posts: 70 Points: 1050 Re: Favorite RAW Wrestlers? « Reply #20 on: Today at 23:56:37 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I Dont Know What The Hell You Talking About At The Last Few Sentences So Im Done About This 'For Now".' From the sound of things it doesn't look like you now much about what you are talking about either though. Just watch the aftermath of the Wrestlemania 6 Main Event to see a famous example of Hogan 'giving the rub' 'How You Know HHH/Michaels Didnt Play The Crowd For Cheers?' Ummm... beacause I've seen the matches, HBK and HHH were so effective that they had to walk out after fans threw rubbish at them, thus causing a riot, this also happened after HBK beat Bulldog in England in 97- I was there!!!! 'HHH Hasnt Been Injured At All This Year Man So Dont Lie, Since Hes Been "World Champ" He Got Injured Once And That Was In The Chamber At Survivor Series In November "02". ' HHH was injured during the Armageddon match against Michaels and he also suffered a haematoma in his leg causing him to miss ring time between Royal Rumble and No Way Out this year. 'HHH Needs To Do The Same.I Dont Know Why The Man Dont Wrestle Everyweek.' He does wrestle at least 3 times every week, I said that earlier, even if it isn't televised he still wrestles. 'Does He Wrestle All The Time On "Camera",Nope Dont Think So' But he does though, you don't seem to be listening or watching Raw recently.... 'By The Way Rock Does Wrestle Atleast 3 Matches When He Returns From Maving Movies' Wow what a true proffesional, 3 matches in 3 months btw you forgot Austin at Wrestlemania XIX 'HHH "Try" Yep Your Correct But He "Dont" Because Hes Not A *HUGE* Draw Anymore Like He Used To Be, People Like Kurt Angle,Cena,Eddie,Brock,etc Now Not Has Been Hunter Helmsly. ' If all those guys are such great draws how come Raw always gets better ratings than Smackdown then? 'Now That Kane Has A Storyline Now The Ratings Are *High*,' So you're going on record saying that Kane is Raw's top draw and a better wrestler than HHH?? 'But HHH Hasnt Drawn Since Hes Been World Champ,Its Not A Opinion Its A "Fact" Because I Have *Proof*.' Ok where's your proof, if HHH hadn't drawn then surely the arenas would be empty and no one would be watching Raw? 'Pedigree Aint Nothin But A "Flatliner" But The Opponets Head Is In Between The Persons 2 Legs,The Only Thing The PED Seems To Hurt Is The Opponents "Face".' Nope you're wrong again, the flatliner is the move used by Steiner and Kanyone and also by Edge but he called it the downward spiral. Try being dropped on your face with a 275 pound man on top of it- it would hurt more than some muppet waving his arms around and dropping his elbow onto you? 'True And It Works Also,Ask HHH,He Knows About It' HHH doesn't use cheap heat though, he never has, the closest he has come to establishing a promo routine would be his michael Buffer routine from 98 'When Flair "Wabbles And Fall Down" He Dont Get A *Pop* ' Yes he does, I ask you to find a single tme Flair has done that and hasn't got a pop for it- the Flair Flop is legendary.... 'Nope, Flair Aint Better Than The Rock,He Wasnt Even Better Than The Rock In His Prime.' Those are fighting words, start a new thread about Flair and i'll argue into the ground there aswell, go on I dare you, don't insult the styling and profiling WHOOOOO!! 16 time world champ kiss stealing son of a gun Ric Flair by comparing him to Flex Kavana, he's leagues above him!!!! a big shout out to 4H HHH 4 LiFe!!!! Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am superior- that is all: HHH so much better than the Rock that it isn't even worth discussing!!! still winning there by a comfortable margin - go 4H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
