Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Another week goes by, and Kurt Angle STILL doesn't look like he should be contending for a major title. Just how many times ARE they gonna beat him down before he finally gets the upperhand over anyone? I will say, that as a stand alone segment, if you can forget that this is the number one contender out there, The Angle/Cena segment was done VERY well. Both were funny, and even Angle's rap was funny without being too detrimental. Plus, they were able to turn it serious by the end and make Kurt look like a bad ass. Yeah, they ruined it 20 seconds later by having him get beat down for the 12th time since his return, but up until then, it was a great segment. Of course, they had to mess that up by making the Angle/Lesnar segments increasingly gayer. That first one where Angle was on all fours SCREAMED "lover's quarrel." This really is becoming a ménage-a-trois. What the fuck are they trying to accomplish? So, good Cena segment, lousy everything else. Call it even. I guess it is getting better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Again...Only AS sees this as something "Gay"... I just see bad writing and bad acting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Apparantly John Cena can see the gay undertones as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 11, 2003 I did not like the opening segment _at all_ and it's Kurt's fault. Seriously, coming down to "you suck", then saying someone else is "whiter than you" then "giving it his best" at rapping... the guy is such a fucking goofball and then his 'intensity' at the end lasted all of 5 seconds - he should have TOTALLY punked Cena out so the impression could be hammered home "don't fuck with it". And his motions during the Rap were god awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 11, 2003 I will say, that as a stand alone segment, if you can forget that this is the number one contender out there, The Angle/Cena segment was done VERY well. Both were funny, and even Angle's rap was funny without being too detrimental. Plus, they were able to turn it serious by the end and make Kurt look like a bad ass. Yeah, they ruined it 20 seconds later by having him get beat down for the 12th time since his return, but up until then, it was a great segment. I am shocked, SHOCKED that Anglesault was not highly pissed off about this promo. Where is my regularly scheduled fuming about how everyone is laughing at Angle and he looks like a wuss? Speaking of looking like wusses, D.K. looked just as bad as I figured, those skits didn't help him either. In their defense however, the Cena promo at least proves that management knows this friendship is starting to look at little fruity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Don't they allow Cena to write his own raps? Management may not realize it, but rather just Cena. Well at least they may not have realized it before they heard the rap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Management authorizes everything. At the very least they tell Cena who his opponent is and let him improv. However they also will tell him sometimes what specifically to rap about. Hence the WM rap about all the celebrities who didn't show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 11, 2003 I am shocked, SHOCKED that Anglesault was not highly pissed off about this promo. Where is my regularly scheduled fuming about how everyone is laughing at Angle and he looks like a wuss? That was a more "laugh with him" moment than usual. Kurt was in on it a least. And the material was genuinely funny, plus they redeemed Kurt a little at the end. Again...Only AS sees this as something "Gay"... You seem to be the only one missing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Speaking of looking like wusses, D.K. looked just as bad as I figured, those skits didn't help him either. Lesnar has had almost as bad a run as Angle has had recently. All to put over the Big Show. ::sigh:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Well ... yeah. Since the Big Show loses all of the big matches on PPV, they sort of have to keep him built up with the television. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Apparantly John Cena can see the gay undertones as well... Cena seems to think EVERYTHING is gay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Me and AS normally disagree on how Angle's being used, but even I have to say that the skit where he was getting iced down seemed to have wicked gay undertones. A lot of it seemed to be because of Lesnar's delivery and voice, and not just what they were saying, but it just seemed weird. They didn't come across as two guys just taking the piss out of each other. And I agree that the opening promo was perfect. You could tell both guys were having fun, the fans were digging it, it ended with both Angle AND Cena as guys that could fuck shit up when it was time to get serious. Yeah, it sucked that Angle got beat down AGAIN but it needed to be done as an excuse to keep him out of the main event. And most likely set up Angle/Lesnar vs. Cena/Show for next week's Smackdown. (so the house shows where they ran this match was to get their timing down for the TV taping) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Maybe it will be 'Billy and John' before too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Well ... yeah. Since the Big Show loses all of the big matches on PPV, they sort of have to keep him built up with the television. You've also kind of gotta keep the other two built as well. and nl5, I'm beginning to think that Angle and Lesnar are subtly "gaying it up" on purpose as a joke. That's the only wayI can explain it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 You're theories got potential, AS, but from what the house report said, they weren't being overly subtle. Wedgies + Ass Slapping does NOT = subtle. But they HAVE to notice how it looks, and you're right, maybe they ARE taking what they perceived as a bad storyline and exaggerating it to make it more humorous for them to have to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 11, 2003 You're theories got potential, AS, but from what the house report said, they weren't being overly subtle. Well, they can't go THAT far on TV. But they HAVE to notice how it looks, and you're right, maybe they ARE taking what they perceived as a bad storyline and exaggerating it to make it more humorous for them to have to do. Pretty much what I meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 You guys didnt here........................They're taking a page out of Saturday Night Live and making Angle/Brock the Ambigously Gay Duo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Apparantly John Cena can see the gay undertones as well... Cena seems to think EVERYTHING is gay. He's hit the nail on the head two weeks in a row! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Cena thinks of 2 things 1) Everything is Gay 2) His dick Seriously..Ever rap just about has at least one reference to his dick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Seriously..Ever rap just about has at least one reference to his dick. You don't listen to much rap, do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 I think he was referring to CENA'S raps, not raps in general. Though it would be amusing if every rap that existed made some sort of reference to John Cena's dick. EDIT: Reading your response in a different light, if you're trying to suggest that Cena's cock-fetish is typical of pretty much any rap, I'd say you are the one who needs to listen to more rap. My sarcasm sense is tingling, however, so on the pretense that it's a joke, I'll let it slide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 12, 2003 ^ He got it. He will either say "I got a Big Dick" (In about 20 different ways) "Suck my Cock" (In about 35 different ways) "My Wang is bigger then your wang" (In about 55 different ways) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Yo, word, G-funk, Blinger Blinger, I gotsta gets paid You've seen worse than this??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Yo, word, G-funk, Blinger Blinger, I gotsta gets paid You've seen worse than this??? ::Looks at last week:: Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Angle should've feuded with Cena. Angle likes Cena and they had great chemistry on the mic. Would've actually made sense since Angle came back around the time of Cena's one-year anniversary thing. Doing this kiddy program with Lesnar does not a rating draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Angle WANTED to do a program with Cena...so maybe Angle did this to plant the seeds for the future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Angle should've feuded with Cena. Angle likes Cena and they had great chemistry on the mic. Would've actually made sense since Angle came back around the time of Cena's one-year anniversary thing. Doing this kiddy program with Lesnar does not a rating draw. But you, know, no. Angle shouldn't have come back right in the midcard. That would help nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 13, 2003 An Hot Entertaining angle that would put angle back as a Permanant Face, albiet not in the MAIN EVENT would have done Angle better. Just because It's not for the WORLD TITLE and the MAIN EVENT...doesn't mean it's a MID-CARD deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted July 13, 2003 If you look back in 96, Austin was still an upper mid-card guy when he called out Bret Hart (considered a legend). Cena is a mid-card guy but is over enough to warrant a feud with Angle, who is looked at highly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 13, 2003 And that was the EXACT same sceanario I presented for Angle's Return... For Cena to come close to winning the title at Backlash and call out Angle... Building with Him going over an Upper Mid Card face (Benoit) at Judgment Day and continue his shots at Angle UNTIL Stephanie announces kurt will return at Vengence and has PERSONALLY requested a Match with John Cena... Angle does a Couple a taped Promos from his Home and his High School Wrestling room reflecting on his past and goes "At Wrestle Mania, I reached the Pinnacle of every wrestler's dreams...I headlined Wrestle Mania for the WWE Title...and in doing so...I broke my neck. They told me I might never wrestle again or rather, It might end my life...Well...THIS is my life and you, John Cena. You little prick, You don't know a damn thing about what I've been through here. I won't deny that you are an Physical speciman and an incredible wrestler...but who the hell do you think you are to call out on my "Manhood"? I won the Gold Medal with a broken neck...I head lined Wrestle Mania with a broken neck...and Come Vengence, John Cena...You will learn just what I'm all about. It's True. It's Damn True"... Angle returns at Vengence to a UNGODLY pop and Cena to deafing heel heat. Angle controls the match which goes 20 minutes with Angle...Angle kicks out of two FU'S and counters the 3rd one into an Ankle Lock...Cena fights it out and passes out for Angle to get the win... Instead of going with Lesnar/Angle II at Summer Slam... You take Lesnar/Benoit and Angle/Cena rematch in a I Quit match... Benoit reaches his dream...Angle goes over Cena again but Cena is *MADE*. :Sigh: It's so damn easy to write this shit...and yet...Ah fuck it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites