Kurt News From The Torch

[Guest EdwardKnoxII]

From the online posting of The Torch...

 

- The 3-way at Vengeance is said to be Kurt Angle's idea, and there's actually people accusing him of playing politics now. The 3-way can either set up a situation where adding Show would get Kurt out of a job, or they could realize the opportunity to get the belt off Brock (and onto Kurt) without having Brock lose. Then in Kurt's diabolical scheme, he gets to play the honorable champion and offer Brock a match at SummerSlam.

 

- Speaking of Kurt, people say Hulk was real mad at him over the MSG 6-man, especially since it was a taped show and they could have edited things out if they thought that was necessary. But Kurt comes from a newer crop of top guys who don't ad-lib stuff. Several veterans lately, including Lawler and Austin, have said that they wish things were looser.

[Guest The ChriZa]

Several veterans lately, including Lawler and Austin, have said that they wish things were looser.

Yeah, it must be real hard to handle all the tight-ass wrestlers from behind an announcing booth or in the GM's office. Fuck them both, Kurt is the future of the company, let him do whatever he likes.

[Guest Coffey]

Good. I hope Angle becomes the best politician to ever exist in the wrestling business. At least he's entertaining & can wrestle...

[Guest Anglesault]

Evil and stuff

[ANKLELOCK 0]

Adding BS was Kurt's idea?

 

WHY KURT WHY????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest JHawk]

Jesus Christ, people! Some guys play politics their entire careers and nobody bats an eye to it. Kurt Angle makes one suggestion (and a bad one at that) and people jump down his throat.

 

Then again, this is coming from the Torch. Take this with a grain of salt until Meltzer says something about it.

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

Hmm...fascinating. Now, do people not like the talented guy playing politics (allegedly) when the untalented guys have been for years? It'll save me the "If Benoit was fucking Steph & used her power to his advantage vz. HHH, would it generate different a different reaction?" thread.

 

Big fucking deal. Kurt makes a suggestion. Next issue of the torch: Eddie makes Funaki, Kurt & Cena a pot of coffee after Kurt suggests it!

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Several veterans lately, including Lawler and Austin, have said that they wish things were looser.

Yeah, it must be real hard to handle all the tight-ass wrestlers from behind an announcing booth or in the GM's office. Fuck them both, Kurt is the future of the company, let him do whatever he likes.

1. They are still major parts of WWE programming (well, Austin anyway) and can certainly make observations on the product and ways to improve it. Funny that when Austin is bitching about HHH's politics he's a god but when he's making suggestions about things Angle could do better it's an old guy whining.

 

2. With Angle's neck the way it is, annointing him as the future of the company is a risky proposition at best. If Angle is still around 2 years from now wrestling I'd be surprised and delighted.

[Guest Coffey]

Well, I know that I can't argue those two points. It's true though, a lot of fans are fickle and hypocritical. That's what makes us fans though. Our opinions can be slightly geared in on direction. It just sucks when everyone is geared in the same direction.

[Guest Choken One]

I'm just happy to see Kurt wanted this and it wasn't WWE idea to place Show in there...

 

Also shows that AS can shut up because It seems this Angle's script here...from the "Gay" shit to getting attacked...

 

I'm thinking he wants get beat up alot to sell himself as an Underdog who *might* have come back a little too soon...

 

But that's lost on everyone...

 

Show and Angle are doing there part well...Lesnar is just out of place...

 

Unless Goofy Lesnar leads to Heyman snapping Brock back to his BROCK MAD BROCK SMASH attitude...I don't like it.

[Guest nikowwf]

Kurt must be either clueless or just bad at this political sh*t cause he's booked like a doofus 75% of the time.

[Guest Anglesault]

Also shows that AS can shut up because It seems this Angle's script here...from the "Gay" shit to getting attacked...

I never denied that.

 

I'm thinking he wants get beat up alot to sell himself as an Underdog who *might* have come back a little too soon...

 

When has ANYONE sold it as that?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Kurt Angle makes one suggestion (and a bad one at that) and people jump down his throat.

Why is it bad? It enables Kurt & Brock to interact in a match w/out either having to job to the other, setting up any number of storylines, plus it allows them to blow off the Brock/Show feud.

 

Brock/Show seem to work well together, and Angle is Angle, so I fail to see how this is a bad idea.

[Guest Anglesault]

Kurt Angle makes one suggestion (and a bad one at that) and people jump down his throat.

Why is it bad? .

It drives the match quality down, takes interest away from the show and puts it on a show it won't ME

[Guest Shanghai Kid]

Whether you like it or not doesn't mean a damn thing, the fact is that he's playing politics just like most wrestlers do. Some do it more than others, but that's just life. Nobody is perfect, mostly everybody tries to work the system to benefiet theirself. If HHH does it, than we hate it, but if Kurt does it, it's ok...because we can't be negative about Kurt can we?

 

Double standard anyone?

[Guest Anglesault]

Whether you like it or not doesn't mean a damn thing, the fact is that he's playing politics just like most wrestlers do. Some do it more than others, but that's just life.  Nobody is perfect, mostly everybody tries to work the system to benefiet theirself.  If HHH does it, than we hate it, but if Kurt does it, it's ok...because we can't be negative about Kurt can we?

 

Double standard anyone?

Kurt isn't burying anyone or extending a heatless, disasterously bad title reign.

 

His evil politics have had him beat down almost every show since his return with no retribution.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Kurt Angle makes one suggestion (and a bad one at that) and people jump down his throat.

Why is it bad? .

It drives the match quality down, takes interest away from the show and puts it on a show it won't ME

It's too early to do Brock/Kurt III, and even if they did, I don't think Kurt can go at 100% yet. What would your alternative be?

[Guest Anglesault]

Kurt Angle makes one suggestion (and a bad one at that) and people jump down his throat.

Why is it bad? .

It drives the match quality down, takes interest away from the show and puts it on a show it won't ME

It's too early to do Brock/Kurt III, and even if they did,

When do you suggest they do it?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Not right now. Wait until Kurt can go 100%. Plus, what's the reason for the match? They've been all buddy-buddy since Kurt got back, so what would lead them to a match against each other?

 

Kurt: "Hey, wanna have a match?"

Brock: "Umm, OK!"

 

Let the 3-way play out, tease the (not sexual ) tension between Kurt & Brock, and build on that.

 

If the handling of the 2 had been different after Kurt's return, then I could probably go along w/ them having a match at Vengeance.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

Good. I hope Angle becomes the best politician to ever exist in the wrestling business. At least he's entertaining & can wrestle...

Triple H was entertaining and put on great matches in 2000. Lets hope politicking Angle in 2003 does not = Triple H 2002.

[Guest Anglesault]

Not right now. Wait until Kurt can go 100%. Plus, what's the reason for the match? They've been all buddy-buddy since Kurt got back, so what would lead them to a match against each other?

Rematch clause

[Guest Nanks]

When do you suggest they do it?

Summerslam.

[Guest Anglesault]

When do you suggest they do it?

Summerslam.

I'd much rather them main event a PPV then go second or third to last on one.

[Guest Nanks]

Does when the match takes place on a card really affect your enjoyment of it more either way?? They did headline Wrestlemania already.

[syxx2001 0]

If this has been aksed already, excuse me, but why is it OK for Angle to suggest things and avoid doing "DA JOB~!" but when Triple H does the same thing, he is Satan and should be shot with a pellet gun in his asshole and a 9 MM in his pelvic area?

[Rendclaw 0]

because of the complete and total burial of no less than FIVE wrestlers that there would have been no problem in dropping the belt to and giving them a chance to shince in the spotlight of being champion.

 

Because he thinks he can be the Ric Flair of the new millenium, the problem being that at least Ric dropped the title on numerous occasions (only to gain it back inside of 30 days, but I digress).

 

Because I personally am convinced that everything he does, in and out of the ring, is to keep the heat on him for as long as possible, from getting engaged to Stephanie to running out there in a Hurricane/Flair match and pedigree him for no reason whatsoever aside from it being the heelish thing to do, to the alleged politics that he plays to keep himself champion.

 

I wouldn't be surprised that him going onto Heat was his idea, just to show those in charge that he is a team player.

 

I wouldn't care one iota about who he was marrying if it wasn;t for everything else. Coincedences go only so far, and while the writers and Vince himself share the blame, to say he is an innocent bystander in all of the maneuvering and politicking is just a steaming pile of bullcrap.

 

I hope in Angle's case this is not the start of something bad.

[Guest Anglesault]

If this has been aksed already, excuse me, but why is it OK for Angle to suggest things and avoid doing "DA JOB~!" but when Triple H does the same thing, he is Satan and should be shot with a pellet gun in his asshole and a 9 MM in his pelvic area?

Kurt isn't burying anyone or extending a heatless, disasterously bad title reign.

 

His evil politics have had him beat down almost every show since his return with no retribution.

[Guest Anglesault]

Does when the match takes place on a card really affect your enjoyment of it more either way??

Makes the match more important

[Guest Choken One]

^ I've proven more than once that the Place of a match does NOT affect the importance of the match...

 

No One pans Savage/Flair WM8 because it went 5th on the Card of Nine...

 

If Angle/Lesnar is as good as it should be it won't matter if it Headlined or went 5th...

[Guest Anglesault]

^ I've proven more than once that the Place of a match does NOT affect the importance of the match...

 

No One pans Savage/Flair WM8 because it went 5th on the Card of Nine...

 

If Angle/Lesnar is as good as it should be it won't matter if it Headlined or went 5th...

Who, besides us, remembers Savage/Flair?

 

With your logic, Hogan/Andre could have curtain jerked Mania 3.