Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 1, 2002 Abdominal Stretch pin is just that, that's it's name. A Camel Clutch into a pin, is normally gimmicked as <Insert wrestler names here) Clutch eg Gedo Clutch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster Report post Posted April 1, 2002 The Fire Thunder Driver can just be called a Cradle Tombstone - thats the easiest name for it. And Nova has done the Third Degree before without all those spins - i think two piledrivers and a Liger bomb is the most simple description. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 1, 2002 The Fire Thunder Driver can just be called a Cradle Tombstone - thats the easiest name for it. A Sit out Cradle Tombstone. Cuz you land on your BUTT for a FTD. Cralde Tombstone still lands on kness. Two piledriver and a sit out powerbomb. A Lyger bomb is a high angle powerbomb with body scissors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster Report post Posted April 1, 2002 Ah details schmetails lol. Us basic Westerners use Liger Bomb as the sit-out bomb term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 1, 2002 I think you man Tiger Bomb. Styles always called a Sitout Powerbomb a Tiger Bomb. Never heard any other call for Lyger bomb apart from a Lyger bomb itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster Report post Posted April 1, 2002 To me, a Tiger Bomb was always a Pearl River Plunge. But hey, this whole Tiger/Liger bomb/driver thing is so confusing, it earned a section in the FAQ didnt it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted April 1, 2002 These are some of the moves that I've always found cool.... Brainbuster Million Dollar Dream Figure Four Northern Lights Suplex Top Rope Suplex Sharpshooter Spinebuster Mandible Claw Stone Cold Stunner Moonsault Shooting Star Press Lou Thez Press (minus noogies) HBK/Savage Flying Elbow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 1, 2002 I dunno.. I ever had a prob with it all. Pearl River Plunge was a Tiger Driver. JR calls Regal's double underhook powerbomb a Tiger Bomb now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster Report post Posted April 1, 2002 Well this is my take on the whole thing, opinions vary but im entitled to mine: The double arm suplex is called the Butterfly Suplex. Therefore to me, Regal's new move is a Butterfly Bomb. This may make the PRP a sitdown Butterfly Bomb, but a shorter term was Tiger Driver. The tiger bit is fine because Tiger is another word for a double-arm move (i.e Tiger Suplex), but the driver doesnt hold water for a move where they land on their back. So, Tiger Bomb it became known to me. The Tiger Driver (or even Butterfly Driver) is the Money Maker of Kid Kash distinction, and the Tiger Driver 91 is the sick sick SICK variation made famous by Misawa, as shown in my Avatar. A liger bomb is just a short code for a sitdown powerbomb for me, as an evevated powerbomb (Last Ride?) is just an elevated powerbomb to me (or elevated Liger Bomb if sitdown), and the bodyscissor thing doesnt mean shit to me, as i dont feel it makes a blind bit of difference. Anyway there is one move sequence that i would mark out for. Imagine this: Wreslter A hits a snap suplex, followed by another, but Wrestler B slips behind on attempt #3 and catches a waistlock. German one connects, as does German two, but Wrestler A hits a back elbow and twists his body round, catching B in a Northern Lights Suplex. He follows up with another, but B hammers his back to stop a third, and flips A over with a gutwrench suplex. Again, he holds onto this and hits another, but after getting up and trying the third, A blocks and catches B with a... it could go on and on. Anyone care to come up with other suplex series variations that could realistically emerge? Also, imagine a German, hold on, lock the arms, hit a Tiger, hold on, slip the arms up and into a Dragon Suplex pin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 1, 2002 Butterfly is not a technical term, it was a WCW term. It's double underhook, sometimes Tiger. Driver is used as Driver and Bomb are interchangible in Japan, and the move can from Japan. Tiger Driver is a Double Underhook Powerbomb (can Release or sit out for the pin, like then PRP). The Money Maker is a Double Underhook Piledriver. Tiger Driver '91 is a Kneeling sheer drop Tiger Driver. Yep, Last Ride is an Elevated powerbomb. The Bodyscissors makes a lot of diffenence, it cradles up the opp. makes a different pin, and point more pressure onto the head for the powerbomb. You are damn right thouhg, it's all pretty much opion.. You probably feel yours is more correct than mine and vice versa. As is the case in the above. The German to Tiger to Dragon has been done for a long time. It's the Chimera Suplex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted April 2, 2002 is there a difference between Splash Mountain and Razors Edge and Awesome Bomb? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Originally posted by razazteca is there a difference between Splash Mountain and Razors Edge and Awesome Bomb? Splash Mountain: Crucifix powerbomb with opponent on top, facing away from the ring (I believe) Razor's Edge: Knee-drop crucifix powerbomb, usually with opponent being released or tossed further Awesome Bomb: Over-the-shoulder powerbomb; ALSO - Any powerbomb Mike Awesome does has this gimmicked name, a la Taz(z)'s suplexes being called Taz(z)plexes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ace309 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 I'd like to know if there's a technical term for a move I've been using in my e-fed. If this is some move used regularly in a WWFer's moveset, I apologize. I see about an hour and a half of wrestling a week on TV, if I'm lucky. I've been calling it a Lotus suplex to go with a gimmick I used to do, and I just happened to like the name. It's something I picked up from my amateur career. Side fisherman's suplex - ie, I'm executing the move. Uke is taking it. I stand on uke's right side with Uke bent over and hook my right arm over his head and my left arm behind his right knee, locking hands in a standing side cradle. Step in and arch back as if I were throwing a fisherman's... basically a fisherman's executed 90 degrees to the cradle-side leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Actually, Splash Mountain would be a Crucifix Powerbomb in which you sit straight down rather than fall forward like a Razor's Edge. The angle of the fall is much sharper hence the allusion to the Disney theme park ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted April 2, 2002 so who does the Splash Mountian? The only person I see attempt it was Juvi on Misterio Jr at Bash at Beach, but the move was reverse into a rana. Avalanch Splash Mountain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Is their a website with all the move names and descriptions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Personally, I've only seen Splash Mountain performed by Dynamite Kansai on All Japan Women's Dreamslam II from '93. With it, she gets the win for her team in TWELVE SECONDS! Fortunately for the other gals, it was a 2 out of 3 falls match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sayeitan Report post Posted April 2, 2002 I'd like to add a little homosexuality into the mix, if I may. The pedigree - I'd like to see more supers. Was the only superpedigree in WWF lore courtesy of Chyna? If so, that's sad, sad, sad. Also - I've seen a short video clip where Hunter (back in his blue blood days) sets a guy up for a pedigree (he's wearing pink - Michaels?) but instead turns it into a piledriver variation. First of all, was that a mistake as the video title claims? Because it looked pretty fluid to me. Second - what the hell would be the term for that move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Special K Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Didn't Eddie and Konnan (Ugh) use Splash Mountain? One of my favorite moves was when Eddie picked them up over the shoulder like an Awesome bomb, helicoptored (not a word) them and then gave a neckbreaker. And most of my Japanese tapes are somewhat old. Anyone know what Akiyama's wristclutch exploder (exploder of x year) is like? Also for Japanese moves, I know -gatame is a submission and -giri is a kick, any more terms that go with this, and what are do the common prefixes to these moves mean? I have a number of Kawada matches and I'm always pressed to find out what Gamengiri means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ace309 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 The infamous Jobber Pedigree was on Cham Pain. If I'm to believe what I've heard, Cham wasn't informed about the move beforehand, assumed it was a double underhook power bomb, and sold it thusly. It's essentially Tiger Driver '91. If you want to get picky about the angle he landed at, call it Tiger Driver '95 or whenever. *shrug* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Midnight Express83 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Splash Mountian=Black Tiger Bomb. So Eddy did use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Also - I've seen a short video clip where Hunter (back in his blue blood days) sets a guy up for a pedigree (he's wearing pink - Michaels?) but instead turns it into a piledriver variation....what the hell would be the term for that move? It's essentially Tiger Driver '91. If you want to get picky about the angle he landed at, call it Tiger Driver '95 or whenever. *shrug* I prefer calling what HHH did Pedigree '95 myself. HHH should steal the Shining Wizard from Keiji Mutoh and call it the "Gamebreaker". You heard from me first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ace309 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 As for Pedigree '95... I prefer not to think of it as a variation (and therefore not as a nameable move) because it was essentially a mistake/blown spot, and was basically ignored after it happened. The Ganso Bomb, for example, was teased and promoted after it happened. Pedigree '95 was ignored by all but the smarkiest. Now if he started using it as a deadly finisher.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 The messed up Pedigree that landed as a double underhook kneeling piledriver was on Bo Dupp, NOT hbk. One of my favorite moves was when Eddie picked them up over the shoulder like an Awesome bomb, helicoptored (not a word) them and then gave a neckbreaker. It was an airplane spin (the term you meant when you said helicoptored) neckbreaker. I'm always pressed to find out what Gamengiri means. Gamengiri is his jumping round house kick to the face. There is an unoffical TD, the TD'99 which is a crucifix bomb to TD'91. Anyone know what Akiyama's wristclutch exploder (exploder of x year) is like The Wrist crunch Exploder (Exploder 98) is the Small Package DDT from No Mercy. Stand facing opp, hook their ehad with you arm like a rockbottom. Take their far arm, pull throw their legs and aplly a wrist crunch. From there suplex up and over, land at a high angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Does anyone know of a good website that has a list of these more unusual moves? and mpegs too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Nope, dream on. The Big Book is full of holes, so that's not good. Used to be a site up that was ripped from the Big Book (had all the same huge mistakes) had at lot of videos, but that's long gone. You just gotta learn for yourself and hunt for vids like all the other move smarks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Yeah, I do that already, I just wondered if anyone had more time and patience to search the web than I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Well, sorry man. It'd be all over boards like this if there was a good moves site out there. Just have to ask on the boards for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubbie78 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 what is the move that lesnar does?...Firemans carry to a...? been curious since I saw him do it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 It's a soft version of the Fireman's carry to DDT (call it a face buster if you want, its's a little lose the way he does it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
