Offical moves thread

[Guest Dace59]

A I said about the Inverted Full Nelson Overhead suplex, it happend in a  shoot fight (might have been a martial arts tourny) That gout outta control. The dude doing in ran in and grappled hin opp. Applied the inverd full nelson. Suplex the victim over head. The Victim landed as a type of STIFF (as in done real life stlye) veritcal sheer drop brainbuster. The massive damage was he had his neck broken!

 

It's not gonna be used in wrestling any time soon!

 

- A suicide dive/tope con hilo caught and converted into a powerslam

 

Asking for big trouble.. would be FUCKING cool to see though. Porbably never been done.

 

- An inverted Buzzkiller/Edgecution. (High Angle DDT)

 

D-Von's was a soft inverted brainbuster.  The idea sounds very cool.. have to be done on RVD of course, for best effect!

 

-A military press caught into a samoan drop. A rolling samoan drop could look better.

 

I know it's been on into a DVD, up a Soman drop would flow more.. probably been done though.. cool though.

 

- A fireman's carry into a neckbreaker.

 

OUCH! Again, a sorrta Jeff or RVD move.. but that'd be one hell great spot, good big man crusher spot.

 

- a double-team Unprettier, where the second guy picks up the victims legs and simply holds them at waist level, causing more impact to the face and neck

 

The second attacker would haev to sit down inverted powerbomb style to make it safe.. it's look lovely and viscious.

 

- If someone was doing the 10-mounted-punches-in-the-corner spot a running kneebreaker.

 

Be something different to the usally of powerbomb or inverted atomic drop. Could be chained into a few things. Good idea.

 

- A wheelbarrow/inverted bomb setup, and flipping them in the air high enough to be able to duck your head and catch them on your shoulders.

 

Deffinatly VERY hard to pull of.. but the sight would be a pop getter alone. I say more Kane to Spike Dudley.. Just thing of the calls...

 

I don't expect you on change.. I give out the info, what you do with it is up to. Aslong as you don't take it baddly, I don't care if you ignore me. Your terms probably make sense to more people than mine.

[Guest]

Has anyone ever actually seen the "Jeff Hrdy Tornado DDT" from Smackdown:JBI???   It looks totally cool but damn near impossible.

[Guest art_vandelay]

Has anyone ever done an Inverted Scoop Slam?  If so, then other variations from a similar pick-up such as an Inverted MDII or Inverted Northern Lights Bomb would have to be possible.  Have any of those ever been done?

 

Also, how about a Gorillla Press, but instead of the attacker just dropping the victim, he spins the victim, with the hand on the thigh pushing forward; creating most of the momentum, and the hand on the chest pushing backward.  Either push the opponent in front of you or whatever to get out of the falling victim's way.  I don't know if it's possible.  If it is, it would definitely be done by someone like Albert on a cruiserweight.

[Guest Dace59]

Has anyone ever actually seen the "Jeff Hrdy Tornado DDT" from Smackdown:JBI???   It looks totally cool but damn near impossible

 

Jeff did that in OMGEA before he came to the WWF, it's the same place Helms came from, th mix Backyard indy fed.

 

Has anyone ever done an Inverted Scoop Slam

Yes. and people have done some very sick inverted MD2's, such as, inverted scoop slam pick up, grab hair and pull head back, drive face first, compressing neck.

 

 

Also, how about a Gorillla Press, but instead of the attacker just dropping the victim, he spins the victim, with the hand on the thigh pushing forward; creating most of the momentum, and the hand on the chest pushing backward.

 

Been done loads, Gorilla Press to Falcon Arrow( Zandig's Mother F'n Bomb), Powerbomb, Tombstone, inverted powerbomb, the lot.

And inverted Gorilla Press to Falcon Arrow(Albert used to do that one), X Factor, MD2.

[Guest art_vandelay]

Wow, I'd like to see those Inverted Scoop Slam moves sometime.

 

Been done loads, Gorilla Press to Falcon Arrow( Zandig's Mother F'n Bomb), Powerbomb, Tombstone, inverted powerbomb, the lot.

And inverted Gorilla Press to Falcon Arrow(Albert used to do that one), X Factor, MD2.

 

I meant a gorilla press drop, like a release with the opponent spinning in mid-air onto the ground.  Sorry if I didn't make it clear.  And isn't a Falcon Arrow just an MD2 with one of the attacker's hands on the victim's tights instead of the groin?  That is unless he actually puts the victim in the suplex position from a Gorilla Press, does he?

[Guest Dace59]

Gottga find people mad enoguh to take some of those moves. They were done once and never again as far as I know for now.

Ok about the Gorilla presses.

Falcon Arrow and MD2 have the same soft and hard bump verisons.. it's just the set up, you're right.

Same move endings.. probably just depend on who does it.

[Guest SuicidalAfterBash91]

One I've always thought about:

 

Wrestler A Attacking Wrestler B

 

A is sitting on the top/second (depending on height etc) turnbuckle. B is bent over. A takes B in a powerbomb head-between-legs position. A forward rolls over B's back, holding on to B's back, in powerbomb position. Then as soon as he stands, A launches B in a kind of Outsider's / Razor's Edge.

 

I doubt it would be possible due to difficulty holding 'B' whilst forward rolling, etc.

 

How about a slingshot Flatliner?

[Guest Dace59]

First one.. sunset flip crucifix bomb.. not a chance, not possible I'd say.

Maybe if the opp. was on the top rope.. and the attacker did a sunset flip and just threw the opp instead of rolling them up.

 

Slingshot Flatliner.... You can't do any type of slingshot grappling moves.. I don't think.

[Guest Dace59]

Ok..  after watch my new CZW tape, you can do some slingshot moves.. Ric Blade does a Slingshot DDT on Trent Acid:

Ric on arpong, Trent in ring, at 90 degrees to Ric. Ric slingshots into the ring, turning to face Trent, grabs his head on the way down (lets go of the ropes with one hand, still holding with other) and lands as a DDT. His feet don't touch the mat till he lands the DDT, so it's a slingshot DDT.

[Guest Singular]

I remember reading on Puroresupower.com that Kobashi was going to debut a new head drop powerbomb.  Unfourtanatly he is too injured to wrestle again and we will have to wait to see it.  I'm trying to picture a head drop Powerbomb.  Anyone have any ideas, or mabey someone has seen one before (Dace).  I believe he was going to call it the Diamond Head.

[Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye]

Singular Posted on April 11 2002,14:32

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I remember reading on Puroresupower.com that Kobashi was going to debut a new head drop powerbomb.  Unfourtanatly he is too injured to wrestle again and we will have to wait to see it.  I'm trying to picture a head drop Powerbomb.  Anyone have any ideas, or mabey someone has seen one before (Dace).  I believe he was going to call it the Diamond Head.

 

wouldnt that just count as a modded ganso bomb?

 

 

rolling stunners would be neat i think...hit stunner...hold...hit stunner...hold...hit stunner(or something like a diamond cutter)...could be a neat finisher

[Guest Dace59]

All above info from Singular is correct.

 

For refference the so called "Ganso Bomb" (Hangman's DDT from  N64 AKI/THQ WWF games) landed as a type of vertical sheer drop powerbomb.

 

One big bet was that it would be Lou Thesz's Original Powerbomb/Throwing Piledriver.

 

http://www.geocities.com/d_59uk/clips/

 

The file GansoBomb.mpeg a clip of an indy wrestler doing Thesz's Original Powerbomb/Throwing Piledriver

I could be wrong, no one knows what it would have been, but it's a good bet.

 

Note, please look at the clip even if you've seen the "Ganso Bomb" clip, it's NOT the same one. Some might know what I'm on about.... but check to make sure.

 

 

Rolling Ace Crushers (basic inverted neckbreak that Stunnger, Diamond Cutter, Acid Drop, TOF, Last Rites all come from) have been done.

And one where you sit opp on the second turnbuckle, wrap his feet round the ropes and do chain stunners has also been done.

[Guest razazteca]

That Gansobomb is a sick move, the guy landed on his head with no protection at all.

 

MD2 is TAKA finisher right?

 

is the move by Dr Wanger Jr a variation of the MD2?  Dr throws the opponet to the ropes, picks him up as if he is going for a powerslam but lands in a sitdown position.  He has used this move a few times in the last 2 months on Galavision.

 

How many people stole Chris Daniels Angel Wings?

Mikey Whipwrek, Kid Kash, HHH

[Guest Dace59]

MD2 is TAKA finisher right?

Yes (in WWF)

 

How many people stole Chris Daniels Angel Wings?

Mikey Whipwrek, Kid Kash, HHH

 

They're all different moves.

The Pedigree has been around longer than the Angle Wings.

Kash does a double underhook piledriver.. it's nothing like the Angle Wings

Whipwrek lifts  over his shoulder, and spins more... not a total rip off, at least he tried.

 

 

Is the move by Dr Wanger Jr a variation of the MD2

Not a clue, never seen it, but sounds like it.

 

 

Right... I'm going now.. just to say, incase this threat heats up again.

Will not be back till tomorrow moring BST.

Anything that don't get answered here, or that you want to be sure of, just PM or E-mail me, I will not mind and will be happy to answer all Qs....

 

Bye bye till 2moz.

[Guest BaldGhoti]

How about a half-inverted nelson--maybe into a suplex or somesuch--for RVD, and give it a Yin-Yang themed name, seein' as he uses Yin-Yangs in his singlets and merch a lot.  Yin-Yang Nelson or somesuch.

 

Or better yet, use the fact that it's side-cocked to spin the guy off to one side.

[Guest Dace59]

An inverted half nelson: Stand facing opp, reach under arm pit, round hback and hook hand over throat... As you know... I doubt you could suplex someone from that posistion.

Maybe use it as leverage for some type of leg sweap or bouncing/rolling kicks.