Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 I figured Martha Stewart would be higher. And there were no TV Chefs on the list..no Julia Child or Emeril. Adam Sandler should at least be on the list somewhere in the high 100's. No video game characters (Mario?)
Guest Mole Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Friends Cast? Russell Crowe? No Hogan or Austin? I could go on, but I'll just get pissed. And people say VH1 is better than MTV.
Guest WrestlingDeacon Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 I don't think you can call anyone who's become famous in the past ten years one of the biggest pop culture icons of all time. For example, look where Larry Hagman as JR Ewing is on the list, if this list was done twenty years ago he would have been number one easy. Yet, you can still make cases for Marilyn Monroe and John Wayne to be number one fifty years after the greatest heights of their popularity. This was just something to fill space and give blowjobs to the currently famous.
Guest spiny norman Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Come on, The Beatles undoubtedly should have been #1. They just define so much, and I don't think anybody else there has been so popular at any stage of time. And three singers: Elvis, Madonna and Michael Jackson were higher than them!? That's crap. Though all three of them are massive pop culture icons, they are not The Beatles. The list could have had anyone in any position, but The Beatles at #12 is what makes this a crap list for me. Who are they kidding? And The Beatles make up two chapters in my history textbook.
Guest Insane Bump Machine Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 How can a person whom nobody outside the USA gives a crap about be the greatest pop culture icon?
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Perhaps the Beatles were a bit lower cause there were four of them. It does diminish it somewhat.
Guest Insane Bump Machine Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Perhaps the Beatles were a bit lower cause there were four of them. It does diminish it somewhat. John Lennon alone is a bigger pop icon than Oprah will ever be.
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 I agree. I just think if they were going to do it, they should have been listed seperately, not as "The Beatles", cause they all had different levels of pop iconness. Personally, I'd order it like this: 1. Ringo 2. Lennon 3. McCartney 4. Harrison
Guest Mattdotcom Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Coming in November, only on VH1.... They were the greatest band EVER. We mean it. And all week, we'll be counting down the TOP FOUR BEETLES. WHO WILL BE NUMBER ONE? Tune into VH1 to find out! Then, in December, only on VH1, its I Love the 90s! What a crazy ten years that was! Oh, Oprah is the number one Beetle.
Guest T_Hunt Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Are they really doing i love the 90's? I was hoping after i love the 80's they would do the 90's but i had a feeling they would do the 70's. But that will be great if they do the 90's.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Yay -- Vh1 has now spread their top (fill in the blank) lists to 200. Gag. I could bitch about 99% of the selections, but then I'd be using up time that can be better spent doing other things -- like watching paint dry...
Guest WrestlingDeacon Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Vh-1 does have plans to do a I Love the '70's next. I would think they would want to wait a bit longer to do the '90's.
Guest wrestlingbs Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 What surprised me the most was that the Beatles were below the FREAKIN' CAST OF FRIENDS! I mean, we are talking about the same Beatles that were worldwide superstars, philosophers, and platinum-producing singers? Bigger than Jesus, right? And they get taken out by Joey and Racheal? I don' care if you hated the Beatles, they were bigger icons than some people from NBC Thursday. Yeah, Oprah's a big deal... to some women in America. I don't think she's that popular outside the US, or with most men for that matter. That's what got me about this list: it just seems to be one group or one person's idea of who's popular, not what the world thinks.
Guest bob_barron Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Friends Cast? Russell Crowe? No Hogan or Austin? I could go on, but I'll just get pissed. And people say VH1 is better than MTV. The Rock is much bigger in the entertainment industry then Hogan or Austin. That's why he is on the list. Until Hogan and Austin open a movie like he did- Rocky is higher
Murmuring Beast Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys? REM? Beatles at 12? What a rank list.
Guest CED Ordonez Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Oprah bigger than the Beatles? J-Lo bigger than Ali? Jennifer Lopez a GREATER Pop Culture Icon than Muhammad FUCKING Ali? The only wrestler on the list barely ranks in and Hulk Hogan doesn't make the list at all? *clubs monkeys in charge of compiling this list* Ye gods...
Guest Sturgis Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Friends Cast? Russell Crowe? No Hogan or Austin? I could go on, but I'll just get pissed. And people say VH1 is better than MTV. The Rock is much bigger in the entertainment industry then Hogan or Austin. That's why he is on the list. Until Hogan and Austin open a movie like he did- Rocky is higher Yes, but Hogan made wrestling cool TWICE. Rock never made wrestling cool, he rode on Austin's coolness and ended up on top.
Guest Choken One Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Exactly...Rocky took Austin's Ball and made HIMSELF and not the company. Hogan MADE wrestling in 1983 and Revived it in 1996. Austin shook it up and took it to unimaginable levels. Rocky is just another action star along the lines of Jean Claude Van Damme
Murmuring Beast Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Hogan didn't make wrestling cool, he made it mainstream. It was people like Hogan that made you a little ashamed of being a wrestling fan. The Rock and Austin deserve credit for making wrestling gritty again, but entertaining in the way that Hogan did.
Guest shlidgn90 Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 muhammad ali should be much higher than his position. where was pele on the list also?
Guest WrestlingDeacon Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Silly man, Americans don't care about Pele. He was probaby in the 800's between Thomas Dolby and Conrad Bain.
Guest J*ingus Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 They really should've named this "Top 200 American Pop Icons", for all the complete ignoring of other countries. And does anyone else think that the ranking of the icons was done by some huge committee, with tons of individual biases and compromises, which led up to its bizarre listing? (Kinda like the DVD500.)
Guest MaxPower27 Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 I'm just bothered by Eminem being ahead of Johnny fucking Carson.
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 And how the hell does Babe Ruth rank outside the top 20, let alone top 100? He's below Tiger Woods for Christ's sake.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted July 27, 2003 Report Posted July 27, 2003 Hogan should be so far ahead of Rock it's funny.
Guest WrestlingDeacon Posted July 28, 2003 Report Posted July 28, 2003 Here's my top ten: 1) Elvis Presley 2) John Wayne 3) Marilyn Monroe 4) The Beatles 5) Richard Nixon 6) Muhammed Ali 7) Frank Sinatra 8) Superman 9) Bob Dylan 10) James Dean
Guest shlidgn90 Posted July 28, 2003 Report Posted July 28, 2003 what about the pope. was he even listed? or better yet, who is more popular than jesus?
Guest Shaved Bear Posted July 28, 2003 Report Posted July 28, 2003 Britney Spears ahead of the Simpsons...a day doesnt go by where i dont hear at least 12 simpsons references
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted July 28, 2003 Report Posted July 28, 2003 The pope and Jesus aren't exactly pop culture icons though... I'd have said Hitler if it was just top icons in general. You could put Charlie Manson on a pop icons list... but they probably wouldn't want the evil ones.
Guest Insane Bump Machine Posted July 28, 2003 Report Posted July 28, 2003 Here's my top ten: 1) Elvis Presley 2) John Wayne 3) Marilyn Monroe 4) The Beatles 5) Richard Nixon 6) Muhammed Ali 7) Frank Sinatra 8) Superman 9) Bob Dylan 10) James Dean That's better, but still just a list for American pop icons, not worldwide. Otherwise John Wayne and Nixon would be nowhere near the top ten.
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