Michael Moore~!

[Guest Vitamin X]

Thursday, June 26, 2003

 

 

I Never Promised You a Ruse Garden -- A Letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush

 

 

June 26, 2003

 

Dear Lt. George W. Bush,

 

I hope you don't mind me referring to you by the only true military rank you ever achieved, that being the one from your on-again, off-again "days" in the, um, Texas Air National Guard. Ever since I saw you in that flyboy outfit, landing on that ship, I assumed you now wanted to be addressed by your military title, as opposed to the civilian rank imposed on you by your dad's friends.

 

So, Lieutenant, I was wondering, would you do me a favor?

 

Could you PLEASE do better than a ROSE BUSH?

 

I saw the guy on TV yesterday that your boys found, the Iraqi who said he had "planted" some nuclear plans in his "back yard" in Baghdad -- 12 years ago -- "under a rose bush."

 

Woo boy. That's a good one. Do you really think we are as dumb as we look? I know our fascination with "American Idol" and Scott Peterson may make us Americans look a little light in the head, but when it comes to lying to us to lead us into war, we really do demand a bit more of an EFFORT and a FOLLOW-THROUGH.

 

You see, George, it's not the lying and the doctoring of intelligence that has me all upset. It's that you've had control of Iraq for over two months now -- and you couldn't even find the time to plant just a few nukes or vats of nerve gas and at least make it LOOK like you weren't lying to us.

 

You see, by not faking some evidence of weapons of mass destruction, it shows that you thought no one would mind if it turned out you made everything up. A different kind of president, who believes that the American public would be outraged if they ever found out the truth, would go to great lengths to cover up his subterfuge.

 

Johnson did it with the Gulf of Tonkin. He said our ships were "attacked" by the North Vietnamese. They weren't, but he knew he had to at least make it LOOK like it happened. Nixon said he wasn't "a crook," but he knew that wasn't enough, so he paid hush money to the burglars and somehow had 18 1/2 minutes erased from a tape in the Oval Office. Why did he do this? Because he knew the American people would be pissed if they found out the truth.

 

Your blatant refusal to back up your verbal deception with the kind of fake evidence we have become used to is a slap in our collective American face. It's as if you are saying, "These Americans are so damn apathetic and lazy, we won't have to produce any weapons to back up our claims!" If you had just dug a few silo holes in the last month outside Tikrit, or spread some anthrax around those Winnebagos near Basra, or "discovered" some plutonium with that stash of home movies of Uday Hussein feeding his tigers, then it would have said to us that you thought we might revolt if you were caught in a lie. It would have shown us some *respect*. We honestly wouldn't have cared if it later came out that you planted all the WMD -- sure, we'd be properly peeved, but at least we would have been proud to know that you knew you HAD to back up your phony claims with the real deal!

 

I guess you finally figured that out this week. It started to appear that millions of us were calling you on your bluff -- those "fictitious reasons for the fictitious war." So you quickly produced this man and his rose bush and some 12-year old piece of paper and some metal parts. CNN broke in at 5:15pm and screamed they had the exclusive! "IRAQI NUCLEAR PLANS FOUND!" But a few good reporters started asking some hard questions -- and, barely 3 hours later, your own administration was forced to admit the plans were "not the smoking gun” proving that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

 

Oops.

 

Never a good idea to rely on a bush, Lieutenant.

 

Yours,

 

Michael Moore

 

www.michaelmoore.com

 

PS. Sorry, I still can't get that padded flyboy suit out of my head. I know, I need help. But when you landed on that carrier, and that banner read, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED," just what mission was that that was accomplished? 'Cause by my count, more than 50 of our young soldiers have died since you said the mission was accomplished. Anarchy still reigns, the Brits are losing kids, too, and wacko fundamentalists now seem to ready to rule the land. Women are already being told to cover their face and shut their mouths, store owners who sell liquor have been executed, and movie theaters showing "immoral" Hollywood movies have been forced to shut down. And hey, this isn't even west Texas! Maybe you could get back into that jumpsuit, fly over to Baghdad and land at the former Saddam International Airport, jump out and give one of those big happy waves -- under a sign that reads, "MISSION IMPOSSIBLE."

 

I just get a kick out of this guy. I know this is more of an opinion piece on current event than a current event itself, but I feel it goes along just fine. My apologies if this has been posted...

[Murmuring Beast 0]

The man's clearly a God of sorts.

[Guest Anorak]

Its like flame baiting, only not quite.

 

God bless the man anyhow.

[Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye]

I somewhat agree with some of his stuff there, but he says it all in such an holier than thou way it just turns me off of paying too much attention to him.

[Guest JMA]

He has some good points, but I'm not a fan of pundits in general.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

And I was wondering what ol' tubby was up to these days.

 

Was this put up on his web site?...

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Dear Michael Moore,

 

Fuck you, hypocrate. Fuck in your your fat Flint, Michigan ass. Fuck you're overrated bullshit movie. Fuck your oscar. And finally fuck your stupid hat.

 

Your pal,

Youth N Asia

 

And I use to like the guy.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Actually I still like the guy, but his book and his movie are phenomanally overrated

 

I have TV Nation on tapes though, and thats pretty good

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Sorry, forgot one...

 

*takes a calming breath*

 

And fuck your books!

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

The problem is that while the guy can point out a problem, he's horrible at actually coming up with a solution.

[Guest Dmann2000]

He's on 60 Minutes right now

[Guest Youth N Asia]

He's on 60 Minutes right now

I know...that's what reminded me to fuck you his book

[Guest Vyce]

Moored turned the corner from "witty political satirist" to "vicious political idealogue" years ago.

 

If he ever got his head out of his ass, he'd really be something. That will never, ever happen again though.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

It never will if he can't actually suggest a solution.

 

Appearantly we can't blame the media for Columbine (something I agree with) but Canadians don't shoot each other because they don't see so many shooting in the news. So does the media encourage people to kill each other or not? He doesn't say, he just provides mixed signals and complains until someone else makes a conclusion.

 

My guess is that the Canadians actually have better weapons training.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

It never will if he can't actually suggest a solution.

 

Appearantly we can't blame the media for Columbine (something I agree with) but Canadians don't shoot each other because they don't see so many shooting in the news. So does the media encourage people to kill each other or not? He doesn't say, he just provides mixed signals and complains until someone else makes a conclusion.

 

My guess is that the Canadians actually have better weapons training.

The job of a Documantarion is not to provide us with solutions but to present us with the facts.

 

And Canadians do have better weapons training but we also have stricter gun control laws, and I dare say we do treat each other with a bit more respect than Americans treat each other.

 

Wether it's because Americans are all jerks or because you're all packed into such a tiny country you sure seem awful nasty sometimes. Conversly there's alot fewer Canadians and alot more land so we're more spread out. We each have more living space and we tend to step on our neighbors toes a bit less.

 

Anyway...I like Micheal Moore. I find him to be humorous. I enjoyed his book to an extent and I loved Bowling For Columbine for what it was. I also enjoyed his earlier movies as well.

[Guest Powerplay]

It never will if he can't actually suggest a solution.

 

Appearantly we can't blame the media for Columbine (something I agree with) but Canadians don't shoot each other because they don't see so many shooting in the news. So does the media encourage people to kill each other or not? He doesn't say, he just provides mixed signals and complains until someone else makes a conclusion.

 

My guess is that the Canadians actually have better weapons training.

The job of a Documantarion is not to provide us with solutions but to present us with the facts.

 

And Canadians do have better weapons training but we also have stricter gun control laws, and I dare say we do treat each other with a bit more respect than Americans treat each other.

 

Wether it's because Americans are all jerks or because you're all packed into such a tiny country you sure seem awful nasty sometimes. Conversly there's alot fewer Canadians and alot more land so we're more spread out. We each have more living space and we tend to step on our neighbors toes a bit less.

 

Anyway...I like Micheal Moore. I find him to be humorous. I enjoyed his book to an extent and I loved Bowling For Columbine for what it was. I also enjoyed his earlier movies as well.

Facts that are horribly, horribly skewed to point towards something that probably isn't the problem, then yes, I guess he does do documentaries. Like YNA, I used to be a fan of him, but I just see him as a fat fuck who disgraces our state every time he opens his mouth.

 

And CBM: I see more pricks from Quebec than in any state in the Union. Don't even go there calling us jerks when you have a whole province full of them .

 

At any rate, if you look around MikeTheSC posted tons of inaccuracies and twisted facts in his documentaries, enough so to show you that it's more of an extended propaganda video rather than a serious documentary of sorts.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

And CBM: I see more pricks from Quebec than in any state in the Union. Don't even go there calling us jerks when you have a whole province full of them .

 

At any rate, if you look around MikeTheSC posted tons of inaccuracies and twisted facts in his documentaries, enough so to show you that it's more of an extended propaganda video rather than a serious documentary of sorts.

bah, i don't count quebec.

 

as for the inaccuarcies. You can find other places that'll demonstrate how what Moore says IS the truth. The things he talks about often can be interpruted in a number of different ways I find. When I hear and anti -american state stats i cut it by half and i do the same for a pro-american. the truth is normally somewhere in the middle.

[Guest Powerplay]

And CBM: I see more pricks from Quebec than in any state in the Union. Don't even go there calling us jerks when you have a whole province full of them .

 

At any rate, if you look around MikeTheSC posted tons of inaccuracies and twisted facts in his documentaries, enough so to show you that it's more of an extended propaganda video rather than a serious documentary of sorts.

bah, i don't count quebec.

 

as for the inaccuarcies. You can find other places that'll demonstrate how what Moore says IS the truth. The things he talks about often can be interpruted in a number of different ways I find. When I hear and anti -american state stats i cut it by half and i do the same for a pro-american. the truth is normally somewhere in the middle.

No, CWM, I'm talking stuff like the leaving out of key facts, like the fact that the big NRA meeting in Denver was planned long before the Columbine shooting, but intentionally made to look reactionary, and other such things as twisting facts and taking things out of context, even cutting and pasting audio and video clips to get over his stuff. The man is just a liberal version of Goebbels, imo, in the way he twists the facts. It's just obscene.

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

The man is just a liberal version of Goebbels, imo, in the way he twists the facts. It's just obscene.

Comparing Moore to Goebbels is obscene.

[Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa]

Bowling For Columbine is a rather interesting and thought provoking, if horribly biased, movie.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

Dear Michael Moore,

 

Fuck you, hypocrate. Fuck in your your fat Flint, Michigan ass. Fuck you're overrated bullshit movie. Fuck your oscar. And finally fuck your stupid hat.

 

Your pal,

Youth N Asia

 

And I use to like the guy.

Ew.

 

If you're actually sending him a letter, fix your grammar and spelling. That's just atrocious.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

And CBM: I see more pricks from Quebec than in any state in the Union. Don't even go there calling us jerks when you have a whole province full of them .

 

At any rate, if you look around MikeTheSC posted tons of inaccuracies and twisted facts in his documentaries, enough so to show you that it's more of an extended propaganda video rather than a serious documentary of sorts.

bah, i don't count quebec.

 

as for the inaccuarcies. You can find other places that'll demonstrate how what Moore says IS the truth. The things he talks about often can be interpruted in a number of different ways I find. When I hear and anti -american state stats i cut it by half and i do the same for a pro-american. the truth is normally somewhere in the middle.

No, CWM, I'm talking stuff like the leaving out of key facts, like the fact that the big NRA meeting in Denver was planned long before the Columbine shooting, but intentionally made to look reactionary, and other such things as twisting facts and taking things out of context, even cutting and pasting audio and video clips to get over his stuff. The man is just a liberal version of Goebbels, imo, in the way he twists the facts. It's just obscene.

it doesn't matter that the meeting was already set up. The point of the protest was for the meeting to be canceled due to the columbine shootings.

[Guest nl5xsk1]

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...l=michael+moore

 

An old thread about the inaccuracies, misconceptions and outright lies in Moore's work. The guy distorts the truth to get his opinion heard and to make it sound better.

 

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

[Guest KanadianKrusty]

And CBM: I see more pricks from Quebec than in any state in the Union. Don't even go there calling us jerks when you have a whole province full of them .

That's probably one of the single most ignorant statements I've ever read on this board, you can't take a population of 7 million and call them all jerks because you've had a few bad encounters.

 

oh and fuck you

[Guest mach7]

And CBM: I see more pricks from Quebec than in any state in the Union. Don't even go there calling us jerks when you have a whole province full of them .

That's probably one of the single most ignorant statements I've ever read on this board, you can't take a population of 7 million and call them all jerks because you've had a few bad encounters.

 

oh and fuck you

I second that.

[Guest nl5xsk1]

While I'm not supporting what powerplay said, it's funny how people say you can't lump all 7 million Quebecois together because of a few bad experiences, but it's exactly what happens to America (and Americans) all the time. Just because of a few xenophobic assholes, so many people put the bad-mouth on the US and all US citizens.

 

I just dig the irony. That is all.

[Guest mach7]

While I'm not supporting what powerplay said, it's funny how people say you can't lump all 7 million Quebecois together because of a few bad experiences, but it's exactly what happens to America (and Americans) all the time. Just because of a few xenophobic assholes, so many people put the bad-mouth on the US and all US citizens.

 

I just dig the irony. That is all.

It's only ironic if the people saying that you "can't lump all 7 million Quebecois together because of a few bad experiences" are the ones doing the shit-talking about the US..

[Guest JMA]

IMO, ANYONE who groups the people of countries together based on stereotypes and/or nationalism is wrong. Whether the victims are American, Canadian, French, English, German, Russian, ect al.

[Guest mach7]

Didn't everyone already have this arguement in the German 9/11 Poll thread?

[Guest Powerplay]

Christ, you people are uptight. I'm half French-Canadian myself, I was just shooting something back at CWM. I thought the smiley sort of hinted at me not being serious, but whatever. Jesus, how bout everyone take a chill pill for a second, okay?