LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Cruiserweights aren't going to cause the fans to abandon liking the mat style and want more dangerous spots. It didn't happen in WCW and the only reason it happened in the WWF wasn't because of Cruiserweights. It was because of things like Foley being thrown off the cell and Shane jumping off the entrance. If Vince would just push the cruiser division as a serious competitive division where cruisers actually wrestle on a regular basis in long competitive matches. Then it might work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 If Vince would just push the cruiser division as a serious competitive division where cruisers actually wrestle on a regular basis in long competitive matches. Then it might work. Has everyone forgotten the WCW cruiser division all of a sudden? They were pushed. Jericho, Malenko, Eddie, Rey, Kidman, Dragon, Juvi...they were all pushed. Get the Rey 619 DVD, and listen to the crowd reaction during Rey-Psychosis. They put on a great match, and the crowd is dead. Oh, that's because they're new...it happened one hell of a lot. Great matches, tepid crowd reactions. It takes more than just have a few cruisers go out and hit some flashy moves to win over a mark majority crowd like the WWE one is. Sure it's ok in RoH, because it's a smart audience. But WWE is not totally a smart audience. He needs to do something with the cruisers, and he doesn't want to because look at what he has to do. Billy Kidman, great worker but a horrible talker. Ultimo Dragon...does he talk in promos? Dean Malenko...he couldn't get over. I'm not saying Vince isn't wrong. Hell my arguement isn't fool proof. He has good talkers in Nunzio and Spanky going to waste as well. But there's more to it than 'just let them go out and fight.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Get the Rey 619 DVD, and listen to the crowd reaction during Rey-Psychosis. They put on a great match, and the crowd is dead. Yeah, but it's clearly a sound quality problem. I mean, you can see the crowd cheering in the background but there was no noise. The cruiserweights were over in WCW. Big time at their peak, and they could be over in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Get the Rey 619 DVD, and listen to the crowd reaction during Rey-Psychosis. They put on a great match, and the crowd is dead. Yeah, but it's clearly a sound quality problem. I mean, you can see the crowd cheering in the background but there was no noise. The cruiserweights were over in WCW. Big time at their peak, and they could be over in WWE. True, on the very same DVD behold the difference in crowd heat from the first match with Dean Malenko to the second one. The fact that the crowd is so much more hyped for the second one displays the wrestlers' ability to get over on their own merits and leave the crowd with an interest in seeing more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 If Vince would just push the cruiser division as a serious competitive division where cruisers actually wrestle on a regular basis in long competitive matches. Then it might work. Has everyone forgotten the WCW cruiser division all of a sudden? They were pushed. Jericho, Malenko, Eddie, Rey, Kidman, Dragon, Juvi...they were all pushed. Get the Rey 619 DVD, and listen to the crowd reaction during Rey-Psychosis. They put on a great match, and the crowd is dead. Oh, that's because they're new...it happened one hell of a lot. Great matches, tepid crowd reactions. It takes more than just have a few cruisers go out and hit some flashy moves to win over a mark majority crowd like the WWE one is. Sure it's ok in RoH, because it's a smart audience. But WWE is not totally a smart audience. He needs to do something with the cruisers, and he doesn't want to because look at what he has to do. Billy Kidman, great worker but a horrible talker. Ultimo Dragon...does he talk in promos? Dean Malenko...he couldn't get over. I'm not saying Vince isn't wrong. Hell my arguement isn't fool proof. He has good talkers in Nunzio and Spanky going to waste as well. But there's more to it than 'just let them go out and fight.' Except for the Jericho/Malenko feud. The crowd ate that up and the pop when Malenko finally beat Jericho was incredible. Push them seriously and give them GOOD storylines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Nearly every cruiserweight feud got a good reaction. Malenko/Jericho, Jericho/Rey, Dean/Ultimo, Jericho/Juvi, Ultimo/Rey to name a few. Pushed correctly, and allowed to wrestle their style the cruiserweights could be huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
