Guest Just J Report post Posted November 10, 2003 That just proves that the BCS is full of shit. I hope they ditch this by next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 If TCU is #6, I don't think that anyone will get near them trying to knock them down. With congress looking into the BCS, they can't afford to have TCU in the top 6 (BCS bowl game) and then have them fall out of the 6 without losing a game. That would just be begging for congress to jump all over them. Count on some crooked zebras at either the Cincinatti or Southern Miss game then. I don't think that even the fix being in could get SMU to beat TCU though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Just pasting the BCS rankings on this page since I didn't realize when I posted them they'd be at the end of the previous page and I know sometimes people are too lazy to go back a page. 1. Oklahoma 1.68 2. USC 6.27 3. Ohio State 7.73 4. LSU 13.17 5. Texas 17.05 6. TCU 17.65 7. Tennessee 18.32 8. Michigan 19.29 9. Georgia 20.27 10. Washington State 20.49 11. Purdue 24.64 12. Miami 27.93 13. Florida State 28.95 14. Florida 32.10 15. Virginia Tech 34.13 16. Miami of Ohio 35.36 17. Nebraska 36.35 18. Mississippi 37.00 19. Pittsburgh 38.32 20. Iowa 45.40 21. Northern Illinois 47.44 22. Minnesota 47.52 23. Bowling Green 48.37 24. Michigan State 51.38 25. Oklahoma State 54.29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Damn Vern, I thought with a 9-1 record going into their last two games, Ohio State would have a shot at a bowl. they pulled a quad... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 That just proves that the BCS is full of shit. I hope they ditch this by next year. Why exactly? Part of me wants TCU to get their asses kicked by someone like LSU, or Texas in a BCS Bowl. Than again the other part wants the best possible matchup, and that won't involve TCU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Here is YOUR college football national television schedule for the week. As usual ABC regional games are marked with an asterisk, all times are Pacific, and rankings are the BCS rankings. Wednesday Marshall at #16 Miami of Ohio, 5:00 PM, ESPN Thursday Virginia at Maryland, 5:00 PM, ESPN Saturday #24 Michigan State at Wisconsin, 9:00 AM, ESPN #22 Minnesota at #20 Iowa, 9:00 AM, ESPN2 Texas A&M at Missouri, 9:30 AM, FSN BYU at Notre Dame, 11:30 AM, NBC Auburn at #9 Georgia, 12:30 PM, CBS #11 Purdue at #3 Ohio State, 12:30 PM, ABC* Arizona State at #10 Washington State, 12:30 PM, ABC* N.C. State at #13 Florida State, 12:30 PM, ABC* Kansas State at #18 Nebraska, 12:30 PM, ABC* #8 Michigan at Northwestern, 12:30 PM, ESPN #19 Pittsburgh at West Virginia, 4:00 PM, ESPN2 Texas Tech at #5 Texas, 4:00 PM, FSN #2 USC at Arizona, 4:00 PM, TBS #4 LSU at Alabama, 4:45 PM, ESPN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted November 11, 2003 I can't wait! This weekend will be huge. The Dawgs are favored by 7 over Auburn, I think they'll cover that nicely. But LSU being favored by 61/2 over Bama is bullshit. This will be Bama's redeeming game of the year. I say Bama by 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Part of me wants TCU to get their asses kicked by someone like LSU, or Texas in a BCS Bowl. Than again the other part wants the best possible matchup, and that won't involve TCU. I want to see TCU walk into a BCS bowl and straight-up HUMBLE someone, or at least take it to overtime. They're capable of it. This "even if they did make it to a BCS bowl, they'll get smeared so what's the point" talk pisses me off. If they blew, the media wouldn't have them in the top 10 in both polls, nor would the computer rankings be very kind to them. Go Auburn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 TCU shouldn't be in the Top 10. They haven't beaten anyone, and aren't dominate enough when they win. The polls look to much at the final score, when game performance should be factored in more than it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 TCU shouldn't be in the Top 10. They haven't beaten anyone, and aren't dominate enough when they win. The polls look to much at the final score, when game performance should be factored in more than it is. They've beaten every team they've faced. If the polls looked at the final score, TCU wouldn't be that high due to several of their wins being by only a touchdown or less. They're one of only two undefeated Division I-A schools left. That's what has them ranked more than anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Yes they're ranked so high because they haven't lost, I just don't think they've warranted that high a ranking. Reguardless of not having any losses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 If it were only fifty or so journalists who make these rankings and the computers weren't a factor, then you might have a case. However, an absolute assload of sportswriters, people who are, at least in theory, more knowledgeable about these things than us normal fans, as well as completely objective computers all agree consistently. I think they're perfectly deserving of their rank, but not any higher. Still, it wouldn't shock me if they were screwed out of things somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Go Auburn. You're just mad The Dawgs beat The Vols like an orange headed step-child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 If it were only fifty or so journalists who make these rankings and the computers weren't a factor, then you might have a case. However, an absolute assload of sportswriters, people who are, at least in theory, more knowledgeable about these things than us normal fans, as well as completely objective computers all agree consistently. I think they're perfectly deserving of their rank, but not any higher. Still, it wouldn't shock me if they were screwed out of things somehow. What's probably helping TCU is there aren't that many good teams this year. Only a handful have 1 win, and the 2 loss teams for the most part haven't been overly impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Sothern Miss will beat TCU, so this will not be an issue in my opinion. And although I am pro-tournament as well, Bob Davie brought up a pretty good point for the BCS. He was talking about how every Saturday is huge for teams, and that if there was a tourney teams would half-ass a lot down the stretch. Don't know for sure, but it's an interesting theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Go Auburn. You're just mad The Dawgs beat The Vols like an orange headed step-child. Much like the Packers/Chiefs game this year, without that one turnover, the game would have gone the other way. Be'lee that. And I'm sorry that I want my team in the SEC title game. Shouldn't you Alabama fans still be licking your wounds from that 5OT loss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Sothern Miss will beat TCU, so this will not be an issue in my opinion. And although I am pro-tournament as well, Bob Davie brought up a pretty good point for the BCS. He was talking about how every Saturday is huge for teams, and that if there was a tourney teams would half-ass a lot down the stretch. Don't know for sure, but it's an interesting theory. That's the reason I'm against a playoff. What we have know is a playoff in some ways. Oklahoma is a 52 point favorite over Baylor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Sothern Miss will beat TCU, so this will not be an issue in my opinion. And although I am pro-tournament as well, Bob Davie brought up a pretty good point for the BCS. He was talking about how every Saturday is huge for teams, and that if there was a tourney teams would half-ass a lot down the stretch. Don't know for sure, but it's an interesting theory. That's the reason I'm against a playoff. What we have know is a playoff in some ways. Oklahoma is a 52 point favorite over Baylor. I believe whats-his-face on Around the Horn said the same thing, that what we have now is effectively a double elimination playoff, where two losses take you out of contention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Go Auburn. You're just mad The Dawgs beat The Vols like an orange headed step-child. Much like the Packers/Chiefs game this year, without that one turnover, the game would have gone the other way. Be'lee that. And I'm sorry that I want my team in the SEC title game. Shouldn't you Alabama fans still be licking your wounds from that 5OT loss? I am over that. Knowing we held OU to 20 and they only beat us by seven gives me strength. But Georgia/Tennesse was more then a one turnover game. I'm onto LSU now and our first upset of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Well actually this year it appears to be triple elimination as its still possible a two loss team could sneak in. The argument that teams wouldn't play as hard doesn't hold much water as losing any game obviously would hurt any team's potential seed in a tournament or even knock them out. Besides the competitve fire will always carry good teams late in the season in so-called meaningless games. Sorry I'll take 15 games (16 team playoff...gee just like every other level of college football) that mean everything than 20 pointless bowl games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Speaking of meanigless bowls... Bored's Bowl Projections OR Everyone Else's Yes its the 2nd edition of my own laziness where I take projections from various websites such as espn.com (has four seperate projections), si.com, cbs.sportsline.com (new this week!), collegefootballnews.com, and collegebcs.com. Each bowl game listed has every team being projected for that game just to give you an idea of who and who isn't being considered. With the Fiesta and Orange Bowls I just list every team being considered since any number of match-ups could come out of those two games. Funny note after all the attenion TCU received many of the projections switched to Southern Miss winning Conference USA and getting the Liberty Bowl berth. Could it be they are rooting for Southern Miss to knock off TCU? Oh and for some reason collegefootballnews.com has LSU in the Sugar Bowl now. Everyone else still has USC. December 16 New Orleans: North Texas vs. Memphis/South Florida/Southern Miss December 18 GMAC: TCU/Southern Miss/Memphis/South Florida vs. Miami (OH)/Bowling Green/Northern Illinois December 22 Tangerine: Georgia Tech/Virginia/Clemson vs. Kansas/Northern Illinois/Texas Tech/Oklahoma State/Kansas State/Navy December 23 Fort Worth: Houston/South Florida/Louisville/Memphis vs. Northern Illinois/Kansas/Colorado/New Mexico/Connecticut December 24 Las Vegas: Air Force/New Mexico vs. Oregon/Washington/California December 25 Hawaii: Louisville/Southern Miss/Memphis/South Florida vs. Hawaii December 26 Motor City: Bowling Green/Miami (OH) vs. Wisconsin/Northwestern Insight: Virginia Tech/Miami/West Virginia/Pittsburgh/Syracuse vs. UCLA/Washington/Oregon State/California December 27 Continental Tire: West Virginia/Syracuse/Boston College/Miami/Virginia Tech vs. Clemson/Virginia December 29 Alamo: Iowa/Minnesota/Purdue/Michigan State vs. Oklahoma State/Kansas State/Missouri/Texas Tech/Nebraska December 30 Houston: Texas Tech/Kansas/Missouri/Colorado vs. South Carolina/Arkansas/Houston/Wake Forest Holiday: Washington State/UCLA vs. Oklahoma State/Kansas State/Nebraska/Texas Tech Silicon Valley: Fresno State vs. Washington/Oregon State/Stanford/California/Bowling Green/Navy December 31 Music City: Auburn/Arkansas/South Carolina/Tennessee vs. Wisconsin/Iowa/Minnesota Independence: Missouri/Texas Tech/Oklahoma State vs. Arkansas/Auburn Liberty: Southern Miss/TCU/Louisville vs. Utah Sun: Oregon State/UCLA vs. Michigan State/Minnesota/Iowa San Francisco: New Mexico/Colorado State vs. Syracuse/West Virginia/Boston College January 1 Outback: Michigan State/Minnesota/Ohio State/Purdue vs. Tennessee/Mississippi/Florida/Georgia/Auburn Gator: Virginia Tech/Miami/Pittsburgh vs. Maryland/N.C. State Capital One: Purdue/Ohio State vs. Florida/Tennessee/Georgia/LSU Rose: Michigan vs. Texas/Washington State/Florida State/USC Orange: Floirda State, Pittsburgh, LSU, Miami, Georgia January 2 Cotton: Nebraska/Kansas State/Oklahoma State vs. Mississippi/Tennessee/Georgia Peach: N.C. State/Maryland vs. Florida/Georgia/Mississippi Fiesta: Texas, Ohio State, Florida State, TCU, LSU January 3 Humanitarian: Boise State vs. Wake Forest/Georgia Tech/Virginia January 4 Sugar: Oklahoma vs. USC/LSU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Well, look at this: Derrick Crudup is going to get the start over Brock "Throw to my own team?" Berlin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 12, 2003 How the FUCK did the Humaitarian Bowl get a Post New Year's Day Slot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Bleh the day a bowl is played on means nothing now just as how bowls in general mean nothing now. The Holiday Bowl in the great scheme of things is a big game with a lot of tradition and typically a very entertaining game as well but its always played on December 30th with the nothing bowls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Yeah but it used to be a Pre Xmas bowl game...How did it get a new slot that usualy known for being for the MAJOR bowls and major teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Well I prefer it if January 1st was always the last day of the bowl season which it sorta used to be. Maybe a game or two would happen on the 2nd but now January 1st is just another day on the calendar when it comes to college football which is a shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 TCU plays at Southern Miss so it's not suprising people think they'll lose that game. I'm against a playoff because, I feel it takes away from the regular. It just allows to much room for teams to lose multiply games, and still have a chance at the national championship. I realize this year may see a 2 loss team in the Sugar Bowl, but that's such a rare occurence, I won't chance my mind about a playoff. A 16 team playoff is far too many teams. If you're going to have a playoff, stick with 4 teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 12, 2003 Or Eight teams. Keep the BCS 6 Berths and Two wildcards where 4 teams will play a mini tournament for those two slots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 But you would be putting the wildcard teams at such a huge disadvantage having to play at least two more games to win the title. The BCS basically works kinda like a playoff anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2003 How the FUCK did the Humaitarian Bowl get a Post New Year's Day Slot? The average temperature in Boise in January is 11 degrees versus 9 degrees in December! Seriously though, do teams even want to play there? I know the AD's do because they still get some money, but Boise in January is hardly a reward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
