TSM Hip Hop Hall of Fame

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NWA

Dr Dre

Ice Cube

Easy E

Tupac Shakur

Eminem

Ice T

Snoop Dogg

Beastie Boyz

Public Enemy

Timbaland

Wu Tang Clan

Puff Daddy

Suge Knight

[Guest BottleRocket]

Has anyone ever looked at the HOF ballots for professional sports, there are dozens and dozens of candidates listed. I went through my record collection and tried to spotlight a large number of artists that I felt were deserving of, at least, being on the ballot because of their contibution to the history of the genre. I followed all the guidelines listed in the initial post on this thread and stand by my selections.

 

Since I suspect that many of the people nominating artists may not be familiar with hip-hop prior to the Death Row/Bad Boy era, I would be happy to highlight the reasons behind each nomination instead of being challenged one artist at a time (e.g. 3rd Bass, Positive K) if necessary. Just because an older artist is only known for one crossover hit in mainstream America ("Pop Goes The Weasel," "I Got A Man," etc.) it certainly doesn't mean that is all they accomplished in their careers.

 

While Positive K did score a massive hit with "I Got A Man" in 1992, he was already a well-known emcee at that point. In 1988, he hit with "Step Up Front" and later with "A Good Combination" and "Nightshift." Additionally, "Ain't No Crime" and "Carhoppers" were also hit singles released off of "The Skills Dat Pay Da Bills" LP that produced "I Got A Man." Furthermore, Pos K made well-respected cameos on cuts by Brand Nubian and MC Lyte prior to his "I Got A Man" fame.

 

As for Stetsa...I've never heard anyone question their status as a classic hip-hop group. They had five hit singles ("Just Say Stet," "Go Stetsa I," "Faye"/"4 Ever My Beat," "Sally"/"DBC Let The Music Play," and "Talkin' All That Jazz"), plus two hit albums (1986's classic "On Fire" and 1988's "In Full Gear" LP). They pioneered the live hip-hop band format years before The Roots and one of their members (Prince Paul) went on to have a pretty outstanding career as a producer.

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Aiiaght, whats up with X-Clan, Whodini and Chubb Rock...for starters. Hell, I'd take Kwame over Chubb Rock.

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stetsasonic and positive k weren't that great when they were popular. stetsa were a mid-level rap act, they were on the same level of public enemy, bdp, epmd or de la soul. their biggest contribution to hip-hop was self destruction. i cant believe you called positive k good. i got a man was a bad remake of his duet with lyte which is called i'm not having it. i'm know your post was just a joke but i still had to reply.

[Guest BottleRocket]

stetsasonic and positive k weren't that great when they were popular. stetsa were a mid-level rap act, they were on the same level of public enemy, bdp, epmd or de la soul. their biggest contribution to hip-hop was self destruction. i cant believe you called positive k good. i got a man was a bad remake of his duet with lyte which is called i'm not having it. i'm know your post was just a joke but i still had to reply.

So you took an intelligent post and completely disregarded it because...?

 

I merely felt both artists should be ON THE BALLOT because they made significant contributions to the genre. I supported my claim with facts about the singles and albums produced by each artist.

 

And for the record, I never said Positive K was "great." I listed his accomplishments and said he was "well-known" and "made well-respected cameos." And I am fully aware that "I Got A Man" was a pop-rap ditty designed for crossover appeal that generiously mined his earlier duet with Lyte, so I specifically took time to spotlight some of his other work that many people may be unfamiliar with.

 

As for Stetsa, you yourself said that "they were on the same level of public enemy, bdp, epmd, or de la soul," so I have no clue how you can possibly find my comments humorous. While I respect Stetsasonic's contribution, it is ridiculous to put them on the same level as those groups AND even more ridiculous to label all those artists as "mid-level rap" acts.

 

And, yes, Stetsa did contribute to the classic "Self-Destruction" single with Public Enemy, MC Lyte, Just Ice, Kool Moe Dee, Doug E. Fresh, Heavy D., and Boogie Down Productions, but they did quite a bit more, both collectively (which I outlined in my previous post) and as individuals (both Daddy O and Prince Paul went on to acclaimed production careers and Fruitkwan was a member of the Gravediggaz).

 

Following JMJ murder, former Stetsasonic member Daddy O called for the sequel to "Self-Destruction" and asked emcees to remove the violent words from their stage names.

 

Anyhow, this whole issue is not a big deal-- I just don't like being disrespected for having some historical perspective on the subject.

 

Nobody needs to respond to this...I'll find somewhere else to post. You fine folks can continue to mention the same fifteen names.