MLB MVP Voting

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Since its almost the end of the baseball season, I thought it would be a good time to conduct our own voting for the MVP awards. The idea is simple. Cut and paste the ballot below, and fill out your picks.

 

-You don't have to fill every slot if you don't want to, but remember that every slot is worth points.

 

-Please do not add categories like "Comeback Player of the Year."

 

-No split votes. Only one player per slot. If you put two players in a slot, the vote is divided between them, and it hurts their chances more than it helps.

 

Here are the guidelines for each award.

 

MVP: All players are eligible, including pitchers. Points are tabulated on a 14-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis.

 

Cy Young: All pitchers are eligible. Voting is tabulated on a 5-3-1 basis.

 

Rookie of the Year: Players are eligible provided they have not accumulated 130 at bats, 50 innings pitched, or 45 days on a major league roster. Voting is tabulated on a 5-3-1 basis. The following is a list of eligible rookies who have accumulated 300 at bats or 120 Innings pitched.

 

AL

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Rocco Baldelli

Hideki Matsui

Angel Berroa

Mark Teixeira

Ken Harvey

Jody Gerut

Craig Monroe

Covelli Crisp

Russ Johnson

Ben Broussard

Brandon Phillips

Miguel Olivo

Eric Munson

Jeremy Bonderman

Jason Davis

Mark Hendrickson

Colby Lewis

 

NL

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Ty Wigginton

Scott Podsednik

Marlon Byrd

Jason Phillips

Adam Everett

Keith Ginter

Xavier Nady

Ron Calloway

Jae Seo

Brandon Webb

Horacio Ramirez

Jerome Robertson

Dontrelle Willis

Zach Day

Jerome Williams

Aaron Cook

 

Manager of the Year: All managers are eligible, including managers who lost their jobs during the season. Voting is tabulated on a 5-3-1 basis.

 

The following is the ballot. Cut and paste, and fill out your ballot.

 

AL MVP

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

 

NL MVP

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

 

AL Cy Young

1.

2.

3.

 

NL Cy Young

1.

2.

3.

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1.

2.

3.

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1.

2.

3.

 

AL Manager of the Year

1.

2.

3.

 

NL Manager of the Year

1.

2.

3.

 

Voting will end 9pm EST on Monday, the 29th.

[Bored 0]

Damn Al I'd been thinking of doing the same thing! I think I'll wait till the weekend to fill out the ballot. I'd suggest for people who may have problems coming up with 10 names for MVP in each league to go espn.com for stats.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

AL MVP

1. Carlos Delgado

2. Miguel Tejada

3. Manny Ramirez

4. Vernon Wells

5. Garret Anderson

6. Shannon Stewart

7. Carlos Beltran

8. Bill Mueller

9. Jorge Posada

10. Alex Rodriguez

 

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Barry Bonds

3. Gary Sheffield

4. Eric Gagne

5. Jim Thome

6. Preston Wilson

7. Sammy Sosa

8. Todd Helton

9. Richie Sexson

10. Javy Lopez

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Pedro Martinez

3. Jamie Moyer

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. Mark Prior

3. Russ Ortiz

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Angel Berroa

2. Mark Teixeria

3. Rocco Baldelli

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Dontrelle Willis

2. Scott Podsednik

3. Brandon Webb

 

OLD AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Ken Macha

3. Lou Piniella

 

NEW AL Manager of the Year

1. Ron Gardenhire

2. Ken Macha

3. Grady Little

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Felipe Alou

3. Dusty Baker

 

Pena lost my vote by pulling seven guys today in a 0-0 game. Along with all the other dumb moves that he has made this month. I can't vote for him as the best manager of the year and have any right to claim I know much about baseball. Pena is a good motivator, but he is not a good game-manager.

 

Gardenhire, on the other hand, looks like a serial killer and actually succeeded down the stretch.

Edited September 28, 2003 by Rob E Dangerously

[the max 0]

AL MVP

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Carlos Delgado

3. Ichiro

4. Frank Thomas

5. Jorge Posada

6. Manny Ramirez

7. Jason Giambi

8. Roy Halladay

9. Torii Hunter

10. Bret Boone

 

NL MVP

1. Barry Bonds

2. Albert Pujols

3. Javier Lopez

4. Jim Thome

5. Gary Sheffield

6. Preston Wilson

7. Jeff Bagwell

8. Mike Lowell

9. Vladimir Guerrero

10. Eric Gagne

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Esteban Loaiza

3. Jamie Moyer

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. John Smoltz

3. Woody Williams

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Rocco Baldelli

2. Jody Gerut

3. Angel Berroa

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Marlon Byrd

2. Ty Wigginton

3. Jeriome Robertson

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Eric Wedge

3. Buck Showalter

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Larry Bowa

3. Jim Tracy

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

AL MVP

1. A. Rodriguez

2. Delgado

3. B. Boone

4. M. Ramirez

5. Ja. Giambi

6. Posada

7. C. Beltran

8. Garciaparra

9. Magglio Ordonez

10. Bill Mueller

 

NL MVP

1. Pujols

2. Bonds

3. Sheffield

4. Thome

5. Javy Lopez

6. Todd Helton

7. Marcus Giles

8. Chipper Jones

9. I. Rodriguez

10. B. Abreu

 

AL Cy Young

1. Halladay

2. Hudson

3. Loazia

 

NL Cy Young

1. Schmidt

2. Prior

3. K. Brown

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Berroa

2. Matsui

3. Mark Teixeira

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. B. Webb

2. S. Podsednik

3. Dontrelle Willis

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. G. Little

2. J. Torre

3. K. Macha

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. J. McKeon

2. B. Cox

3. F. Robinson

[treble 0]

Old AL MVP

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Manny Ramirez

3. Frank Thomas

4. Carlos Delgado

5. Garrett Anderson

6. Vernon Wells

7. Shannon Stewart

8. Roy Halladay

9. Magglio Ordonez

10. Ichiro

 

New AL MVP

1. Carlos Delgado

2. Alex Rodriguez

3. Manny Ramirez

4. Frank Thomas

5. Garrett Anderson

6. Vernon Wells

7. Shannon Stewart

8. Roy Halladay

9. Magglio Ordonez

10. Ichiro

 

NL MVP

1. Barry Bonds

2. Albert Pujols

3. Gary Sheffield

4. Jim Thome

5. Eric Gagne

6. Vladimir Guerrero

7. Javy Lopez

8. Preston Wilson

9. Sammy Sosa

10. Richie Sexson

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Esteban Loaiza

3. Pedro Martinez

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. Russ Ortiz

3. Jason Schmidt

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Mark Teixeira

2. Rocco Baldelli

3. Jody Gerut

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Dontrelle Willis

2. Brandon Webb

3. Scott Podsednik

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Bob Melvin

3. Carlos Tosca

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Frank Robinson

3. Felipe Alou

 

Those could probably all change tomorrow (especially the AL MVP), but those are my choices.

 

EDIT: Yeah, I switched my AL MVP votes. Delgado's got better numbers across the board as compared to A-Rod, and plays for a better team.

Edited September 26, 2003 by treble charged

[the max 0]

Alex Pujols?

[treble 0]

Shut up. I was close enough.

[CanadianChris 0]

AL MVP

1. Carlos Delgado

2. Alex Rodriguez

3. Jorge Posada

4. Manny Ramirez

5. Roy Halladay

6. Pedro Martinez

7. Jason Giambi

8. Miguel Tejada

9. Frank Thomas

10. Bill Mueller

 

NL MVP

1. Barry Bonds

2. Javier Lopez

3. Albert Pujols

4. Eric Gagne

5. Gary Sheffield

6. Jim Thome

7. Russ Ortiz

8. Jim Edmonds

9. Mark Prior

10. Mike Lowell

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Pedro Martinez

3. Tim Hudson

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. Russ Ortiz

3. Jason Schmidt

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Hideki Matsui

2. Angel Berroa

3. Mark Teixeira

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Brandon Webb

2. Dontrelle Willis

3. Scott Podsednik

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Ken Macha

3. Grady Little

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Felipe Alou

2. Jack McKeon

3. Frank Robinson

 

EDIT: Switched my 1-2 in the AL MVP. Yeah, I'm a homer, blow me.

Edited September 29, 2003 by CanadianChris

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

For all the anti-Rodriguez for MVP talk I've heard, he's dominent so far.

[the pinjockey 0]

AL MVP

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Miguel Tejada

3. Jorge Posada

4. Manny Ramirez

5. Jason Giambi

6. Frank Thomas

7. Shannon Stewart

8. Carlos Delgado

9. Garrett Anderson

10. Bill Mueller

 

NL MVP

1. Barry Bonds

2. Albert Pujols

3. Jim Thome

4. Javy Lopez

5. Eric Gagne

6. Gary Sheffield

7. Juan Pierre

8. Sammy Sosa

9. Jeff Bagwell

10. Mike Lieberthal

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Esteban Loaizia

3. Keith Foulke

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. Jason Schmidt

3. Russ Ortiz

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Angel Berroa

2. Rocco Baldelli

3. Hideki Matsui

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Brandon Webb (he has been screwed by all the Willis hype)

2. Scott Podsednik

3. Marlon Byrd

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Ken Macha

3. Grady Little

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Frank Robinson

3. Felipe Alou

 

Edit: Thome down two spots Bonds and Pujols each up one.

Edited September 26, 2003 by the pinjockey

[Bored 0]

For all the anti-Rodriguez for MVP talk I've heard, he's dominent so far.

Ya ya ya. Don't worry...we'll be voting eventually.

 

A-Rod expensive, not valuable

 

Another argument against him...he plays in the best hitter's park in the A.L. His "meaningless" batting average 32 points lower on the road, slugging percentage is 32 points lower, OPS is 55 points lower, five fewer homeruns, and 25 fewer rbi on the road.

 

But hey at least you didn't vote Bonds.

Edited September 23, 2003 by Bored

[phoenixrising 0]

AL MVP

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Manny Ramirez

3. Carlos Delgado

4. Miguel Tejada

5. Alfonso Soriano

6. Vernon Wells

7. Frank Thomas

8. Bret Boone

9. Nomar Garciaparra

10. Carlos Beltran

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Barry Bonds

3. Eric Gagne

4. Preston Wilson

5. John Smoltz

6. Jim Thome

7. Gary Sheffield

8. Todd Helton

9. Edgar Renteria

10. Mike Lowell

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Esteban Loaiza

3. Jamie Moyer

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. John Smoltz

3. Russ Ortiz

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Hideki Matsui

2. Rocco Baldelli

3. Jody Gerut

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Dontrelle Willis

2. Brandon Webb

3. Scott Podsednik

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Grady Little

3. Jerry Manuel

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Dusty Baker

3. Larry Bowa

[Vern Gagne 0]

For all the anti-Rodriguez for MVP talk I've heard, he's dominent so far.

Ya ya ya. Don't worry...we'll be voting eventually.

 

A-Rod expensive, not valuable

 

Another argument against him...he plays in the best hitter's park in the A.L. His "meaningless" batting average 32 points lower on the road, slugging percentage is 32 points lower, OPS is 55 points lower, five fewer homeruns, and 25 fewer rbi on the road.

 

But hey at least you didn't vote Bonds.

I just read that article by Starks. Mr. Valuable laid an egg when the Rangers had a chance at having a contending season. When their 15 games behind he inflates his stats. He doesn't deserve a single vote.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Just a question for you all

 

Where would the Rangers have finished if they didn't have A-Rod?

 

That says it all for his value to his team.

 

Ralph Kiner never won MVP despite being a great player.. because the Pirates sucked back then. He finished fourth in 1949 after hitting 54 home runs while his team finished 6th out of 8. He finished behind Enos Slaughter, Stan Musial and Jackie Robinson.

 

1950- Jim Konstanty of the Phillies won MVP w/ 22 saves, followed by Musial, Eddie Stanky, Del Ennis and Kiner. Kiner hit 47HRs that year.

 

Kiner won the HR title for seven straight years and he never came close to winning MVP.

 

Here's some numbers for ARod

 

w/ nobody on base

 

28 HRs, .319 BA, 1.055 OPS

 

w/ runners on

 

19 HRs, 89 RBI, .275 BA, .940 OPS

 

w/ runners in scoring position

 

8 HRs, 62 RBI, .278 BA, .908 OPS

 

Most Valuable Player does not mean Best Player.

 

A-Rod may be the best player, but he is not the most valuable

[treble 0]

The only reason I chose him was because there's no one else out there from a contending team who's having a great year. Normally, I agree with the fact that the MVP should come from a winning team, but there is no one this year on a team headed to the playoffs that deserves it.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Just a question for you all

 

Where would the Rangers have finished if they didn't have A-Rod?

 

That says it all for his value to his team.

 

That's a bad argument, because you can apply it to other teams as well. The Cardinals would have missed the playoffs without Pujols. You can't limit the MVP race to players from four teams.

 

Ralph Kiner never won MVP despite being a great player.. because the Pirates sucked back then. He finished fourth in 1949 after hitting 54 home runs while his team finished 6th out of 8. He finished behind Enos Slaughter, Stan Musial and Jackie Robinson.

 

All three finished ahead of Kiner in the batting race, which mattered alot to MVP voters of the time. Heck, the first MVPs were simply to honor the league batting champions. In any case, Bill James' Win Shares lists Musial with 40 WS, Kiner with 37, Robinson with 36, and Schoendienst with 29. So you can make a legitimate statistical argument against Kiner.

 

1950- Jim Konstanty of the Phillies won MVP w/ 22 saves, followed by Musial, Eddie Stanky, Del Ennis and Kiner. Kiner hit 47HRs that year.

 

That was quite possibly the worst award pick in MVP history. Robin Roberts and Dell Ennis were better players on the Phillies that year. But Kiner wasn't the guy screwed that year. Stan Musial was.

 

Kiner won the HR title for seven straight years and he never came close to winning MVP.

 

The problem is, Kiner was never the league's BEST player in those seven seasons. Stan Musial was better six times, and Johnny Mize was better in '48. By comparison, Rodriguez was the very best player in the AL in '96, 2000, 2002, and so far this year.

 

Here's some more numbers for A-Rod.

 

Bases Loaded

.571/.500/1.143

 

Men On w/ Two Out

.312/.407/.645

 

Close and Late

.271/.407/.743

[the pinjockey 0]

"After games of May 29, the Rangers were still within two games of .500 (25-27). Then, over the next 3½ weeks, they hurtled right off the AL West cliff.

 

They went 2-20 in their next 22 games -- a stretch of Tigers-like baseball that blew up the season. If we could say, "At least that wasn't A-Rod's fault," we could look at his MVP candidacy in a whole different light. But that isn't the case.

 

He went 2-for-23 with runners in scoring position during that time. He hit three homers and drove in seven runs (one fewer than Jason Bay drove in Friday in one game). In the first 16 games of that span, he had one homer and two RBI.

 

So as the ship sank, he sank with it. It really wasn't until his team's season was essentially over that he began compiling many of these alleged MVP numbers."

 

Ok, so by the way the article looks at it, Arod came up short when needed. But isn't it just as easy to say that when he slumped (which everyone will during a season) the Rangers played Tigers like baseball, not the other way around? So while we may exaggerate other people, without Arod the Rangers actually are the Tigers.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

I usually like Jayson Stark's writing, but the reasoning here is terrible. EVERYONE has bad stretches over the course of the season. You could do this kind of micromanaging to discount anyone's MVP chances.

 

For example, Miguel Tejada. He hit .161/.230/.286 in the entire month of April. The A's started 12-13. If he had hit then, they might not have to worry about this silly playoff race.

 

I can't wait to see the supporters of the contending teams only argument come up with their top 10s.

[CanadianChris 0]

I'll post the opposing view again here.

 

I can't wait to see Neyer dissect the NL MVP race.

[JangoFett4Hire 0]

What are Jason Giambi's September stats? I thought he was having an awful month?

[Bored 0]

For example, Miguel Tejada.  He hit .161/.230/.286 in the entire month of April.  The A's started 12-13.  If he had hit then, they might not have to worry about this silly playoff race.

Your right about Tejada's statistics but the A's were 17-10 in April. Don't worry even an A's fan I'm not voting Tejada MVP. His slow start severly hurt his overall numbers which aren't good enough to win the award. He will make my list just no higher than 6th.

 

Only seven votes so far. I hope others are just waiting for the season to be closer to being over like me.

[Guest Shawn 5]

AL MVP

1. Magglio Ordonez

2. Manny Ramirez

3. Carlos Delgado

4. Garret Anderson

5. Frank Thomas

6. Carlos Lee

7. Alex Rodriguez

8. Jorge Posada

9. Shannon Stewart

10. Pedro Martinez

 

NL MVP

1. Barry Bonds

2. Gary Sheffield

3. Alber Pujols

4. Jim Thome

5. Marcus Giles

6. Javy Lopez

7. Vladimir Guerrero

8. Preston Wilson

9. Ivan Rodriguez

10. Richie Sexson

 

AL Cy Young

1. Pedro Martinez

2. Esteban Loiza

3. Roy Halladay

 

NL Cy Young

1. Russ Ortiz

2. Mark Prior

3. Jason Schmidt

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Rocco Baldelli

2. Angel Berroa

3. Mark Teixeria

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Scott Podsednik

2. Brandon Webb

3. Dontrell Willis

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Grady Little

3. Jerry Manuel

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Bobby Cox

2. Jack McKeon

3. Dusty Baker

[Vern Gagne 0]

But isn't it just as easy to say that when he slumped (which everyone will during a season) the Rangers played Tigers like baseball, not the other way around? So while we may exaggerate other people, without Arod the Rangers actually are the Tigers.

Players do go in slumps, but Rodriguez's came at the worst time. Players like Tejada and Giambi who play for contending teams can have slumps, but later on in the year they can get hot and help their teams win important games. Once the Rangers fell out of contention, A-Rod's numbers don't look has great to the voters.

 

This might be the year for Rodriguez. I don't think he should win, but with no real clear cut favorite the voters may just give him the award.

[Guest Bricks]

AL MVP

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Jorge Posada

3. Jason Giambi

4. Carlos Delgado

5. Frank Thomas

6. Vernon Wells

7. Ichiro Suzuki

8. Nomar Garciappara

9. Brett Boone

10. Magglio Ordonez

 

NL MVP

1. Barry Bonds

2. Jim Thome

3. Albert Pujols

4. Eric Gagne

5. Javy Lopez

6. Sammy Sosa

7. Ivan Rodriguez

8. Gary Sheffield

9. Preston Wilson

10. Edgar Renteria

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay

2. Pedro Martinez

3. Esteban Loiza

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. Jason Schmidt

3. Russ Ortiz

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Hideki Matsui

2. Rocco Baldelli

3. Angel Berroa

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Dontrelle Willis

2. Jason Phillips

3. Brandon Webb

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Tony Pena

2. Ken Macha

3. Grady Little

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Dusty Baker

3. Bobby Cox

[KingPK 0]

AL MVP

1. Magglio Ordonez

2. Manny Ramirez

3. Carlos Delgado

4. Jason Giambi

5. Carlos Lee

6. David Ortiz

7. Pedro Martinez

8. Bill Meuller

9. Alex Rodriguez

10. Garret Anderson

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Barry Bonds

3. Jim Thome

4. Eric Gagne

5. Javy Lopez

6. Gary Sheffield

7. John Smoltz

8. Jeff Bagwell

9. Mike Lieberthal

10. Russ Ortiz

 

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halliday

2. Esteban Loiza

3. Pedro Martinez

 

NL Cy Young

1. Eric Gagne

2. Russ Ortiz

3. Jaso Schmidt

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Rocco Baldelli

2. Angel Berroa

3. Mark Texeria

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Dontrelle Willis

2. Brandon Webb

3. Scott Posednik

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Grady Little

2. Tony Pena

3. Ken Macha

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Jack McKeon

2. Bobby Cox

3. Felipe Alou

[Guest T_Hunt]

Whats with all this Ken Macha lovin'? He got a great job from the beginning. I mean look, the A's won more games last year so he doesnt deserve any mention. Torre or Gardenhire deserve more talk then him. But i do agree Pena did wonders with that crap team in KC.

[the max 0]

I'm guessing because Macha kept the team competitive for most of the year, when a lot of young teams might have wilted when Howe left.

[CanadianChris 0]

And Gardenhire underachieved with his team for most of the year. The Twins really only played like a contending ballclub in September, and would have been long out of the race in any other division.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Ken Macha- The A's decline can clearly be linked to Tejada's drop in performance in the first half. I probably give him a little credit for a sabermetric approach as well.

 

Joe Torre- I listed him 2nd, giving him credit for dealing with a godawful owner. He doesn't get noticed because he's consistently very good.

 

Ron Gardenhire- Really the Twins are the 5th best team in the AL. They didn't stand out until their 11 game win streak.

 

Tony Pena- He made a bunch of stupid moves down the stretch. I think the Royals run had more to do with the players playing well.