dubq 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 First, I don't recall ever NOT liking HHH. Second, I'm glad to see that someone keeps up with their history on this forum, even though none of it matters. Though, it's no secret that I admire Trips and encourage him to hold down as many whiney Smark Darlings as possible. I also encourage him to fuck the bosses daughter and to one day [hopefully] take over WWE so that we can all bask in the greatness that is The Game forever and ever, amen. PS - none of that was sarcasm. It seems to me like you're actively trying to generate negative responses from posters. Care to comment on that? I've already answered this before and I don't really feel the need to repeat myself to someone who get's people banned for calling him a 'crybaby'... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 April 2nd, 2001- HHH gets out of turning face and runs out and aligns with Austin and turns heel. The WWF starts going downhill after that. What were you saying again? Missing a few facts there, Bobby, no wonder you went to Ryerson. HHH proceeds to get injured and is out for 9 months following that, and you expect me to believe that while he was gone he was also "retarding business"... yeah, he must be great at telepathy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 I spent most of the summer talking to marks and they all agreed on three main things. 1) Trish is hot. 2) Kane is the most interesting wrestler in the company. 3) HHH wins too much and they've lost interest as a result. Keep in mind that these people have no knowledge of the backstage stuff. Whatever. It's a matter of experience. No marks I've spoken to have ever shown any knowledge of this sort of stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Except for the show where The Rock returned- RAW has never drawn a 5.7 ever again. One month into the HHH-Austin alliance- ratings had dropped a full point. Go HHH Go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 I spent most of the summer talking to marks and they all agreed on three main things. 1) Trish is hot. 2) Kane is the most interesting wrestler in the company. 3) HHH wins too much and they've lost interest as a result. Keep in mind that these people have no knowledge of the backstage stuff. Whatever. It's a matter of experience. No marks I've spoken to have ever shown any knowledge of this sort of stuff. After HHH defeated Booker T and essentially proved his point my friend looked at me and said "Is Triple H EVER gonna lose that damn title?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 After HHH defeated Booker T and essentially proved his point my friend looked at me and said "Is Triple H EVER gonna lose that damn title?" Blame Goldberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 April 2nd, 2001- HHH gets out of turning face and runs out and aligns with Austin and turns heel. The WWF starts going downhill after that. What were you saying again? Missing a few facts there, Bobby, no wonder you went to Ryerson. HHH proceeds to get injured and is out for 9 months following that, and you expect me to believe that while he was gone he was also "retarding business"... yeah, he must be great at telepathy. Trips tore his quad two months after Mania. It was May 21, 2001--the day before my birthday. Just to add something to the argument, whether you want to blame HHH, Vince, Steph, Shane, Shane's unborn child, Jericho, the Rock, or whomever... HHH has been a dominant heel champion in the WWE/F. TThey'd had huge success with dominant face champions, but not heels. WWE usually tips the feud balance too much in favor of the faces, but Trips is the exception. Trips gets the better of his opponents in interviews. Trips almost always wins the blowoffs. Trips seems to wrestle in a way to expose his opponents' weaknesses. Heels usually control the match, and since he's a veteran that's almost assured he'll be controlling those matches. He should have taken over and tried to save the Steiner match. He should have worked to make RVD look better rather than attempting to make his match with RVD look horrible. The feud with Kane in late 2002, WHOEVER YOU WANT TO BLAME for the booking did a lot to hurt everyone involved. The TLC3 match sacrificed several guys to build up Kane (I won't mention the Jericho job since Jericho can't seriously be hurt anyway), and the end result killed the secondary title and left the midcarders with no titles to feud over but the tag titles. And Trips got a belt that had absorbed all the other titles on the show. So whatever defense you want to make, I'm simply stating that whoever was responsible, it was poor booking and a lot of stuff seemed to benefit no one but Trips. However, it doesn't really benefit him since there are no interesting feuds to build new stars. No new stars, no viable contenders. No viable contenders, no "money" feuds. Raw was so bone-dry on challengers they had to hire outside and push guys like Steiner and Goldberg. The former was a failure, the latter is yet to be decided. However, I don't think it does much for locker room morale. It seems guys on Raw don't even try--when in the ring they just go through the motions. On SD even the less talented wrestlers seem to bust their asses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RollingSambos Report post Posted September 26, 2003 That's the problem with HHH: not only does he bury the guy who actually gets the main event feud with him, THAT poor guy usually goes over on Jericho the Monday before the PPV...so HHH gets to bury the hot new star AND Chris Jericho all in one full swoop. Do you realize that Jericho has been used to "build" Steiner, Kane, and RVD for HHH? Hell, he probably jobbed to Booker T too and I am just forgetting it. And wasn't he Nash fodder? Yes, he was... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Anybody else feel the trolling and flamebaiting here? The constant remarks about how we're all blind and stupid? The constant remarks about how we all suck Benoit's cock? Yeah guys...you really know how to make great arguments. And let me borrow something from you there Mach7.... :rolleyes: Annoying...isn't it? I find it funny that someone can basically sit here and still deny all the shit HHH has done. When there's TONS of evidence flying in your face. These guys bring you cold hard evidence. And what do you respond with "You're all HHHaters! Stupid smarks!" yeah guys...you're such great arguers. You should run for political office...I'd love to see the debates...."You blind democrat hater! You don't know what you're talking about! Get Clinton's cock out of your mouth!" Sad to see such low intelligence in so many people these days.... Oh and you want to see Benoit do a moonsault? Watch some of his stuff circa 93-94. Benoit was busting out all the moves...because you know...how many moves you do is a reflection of how great a wrestler you are.... :rolleyes: Oh and if a "smark darling"(another sign or poor debating skills and low intelligence is to blindly spout this comment off) were holding everyone down and sucking up the ring you're damn right we'd jump on them. I'd turn on Benoit or Jericho in a heartbeat if they did what HHH does. But guess what? They don't so it's a moot point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Yeah, you're right. That is flame-baiting. OH DAMES! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Oh shit...somebody just called the police! *runs through somebody's backyard and hides under a kiddie pool* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Anybody else feel the trolling and flamebaiting here? The constant remarks about how we're all blind and stupid? The constant remarks about how we all suck Benoit's cock? Yeah guys...you really know how to make great arguments. And let me borrow something from you there Mach7.... :rolleyes: Annoying...isn't it? No, actually it isn't. The smilies are there for our use.. I can use them as I please. As for HHH's "shit" I've never denied his politics or anything like that.. infact, I completely support it. The whole catalyst of this was that HHHating is ALL YOU PEOPLE EVER TALK ABOUT. Again, I'm not denying that HHH has ever played political games.. but this "cold hard evidence" line is a crock of shit. And I do mean a CROCK OF SHIT. "Meltzer reported it, oh bah gawd it MUST BE TRUE! I mean, I wasn't there, and neither was he. Neither of us know for sure - but his trustly insider sources say so - so it's cold hard evidence to me." If you were presenting evidence in this manner to a court of law, every judge in the western hemisphere would laugh your ass out of the court. As for Trolling and Flamebaiting, that's a crock of shit. If stating my opinion is flamebaiting, then I'm not going to stop until I get a PM from Damien telling me to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 You encourage his politics and his ruining of RAW just so you can see a bunch of guys you don't know complain on the internet? You buddy have your priorities screwed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 You encourage his politics and his ruining of RAW just so you can see a bunch of guys you don't know complain on the internet? You buddy have your priorities screwed up. Jesus Christ, it's like trying to explain things to a three year old. I would think that with a MESSAGE BOARD, I wouldn't have to repeat myself seven times before someone understands it... but apparently with you, it IS truly like talking to a brick wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Blah blah you guys are children. That's all I hear from you. You really need to learn to debate. Maybe people wouldn't listen to you if you would present your arguments in a less jerkish way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites