Guest Gatornibs Report post Posted October 3, 2003 Man, this is pretty scary, especially since I traded with him a few times a couple of years ago. I also find it so odd that RF has never been called on all the stuff they've bootleged, but apparantly was the reason for this lawsuit. Read here: http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virgi...dlines-virginia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBarnett Report post Posted October 4, 2003 He was not sentenced to anything yet. Feinstein ratted this guy out to the FBI bc he was blatantly selling ROH. Feinstein deserves to die the most painful death imaginable. He ratted this guy for exactly what he's been doing for years. King didn't have the $$ for a good atty. I talked to him right after the arrest. Spread this around. I never want to hear why anyone should support ROH video sales again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted October 4, 2003 He was not sentenced to anything yet. Feinstein ratted this guy out to the FBI bc he was blatantly selling ROH. Feinstein deserves to die the most painful death imaginable. He ratted this guy for exactly what he's been doing for years. King didn't have the $$ for a good atty. I talked to him right after the arrest. Spread this around. I never want to hear why anyone should support ROH video sales again Holy, you're Vampiro's agent who gives him weird advice. Crazy. Yea, Feinstein needs to grow a sack, ratting a guy out to the FBI and getting him 3 years over fucking wrestling tape trading is beyond lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted October 4, 2003 Yea, Feinstein needs to grow a sack, ratting a guy out to the FBI and getting him 3 years over fucking wrestling tape trading is beyond lame. Yea, if someone was taking money away from you, you would just let it go. Let's be realistic. Feinstein's business is ROH. He makes money through selling ROH tapes. If someone is illegally selling those tapes, effectively stealing from him, he has every right in the world to take legal action. I know I would and I guarentee if you were losing money that way, you would too. Not wanting people tos teal money for you is hardly "lame." Feinstein is wrong for selling any tapes that he was or is selling illegally. Nobody is going to deny that. However, that doesn't change the fact that this guy was also wrong. Just because Feinstein has sold bootlegs before doesn't mean he can't protect his own (legit) business interests. Its kind of like saying that a murdurer should not be allowed to turn in another murdurer. That just doesn't make sense. One person's past/present actions doesn't effect that the other person is also wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted October 4, 2003 Is Vince McMahon or the FBI aware that RF is selling footage owned by WWE?? WWE has their Ric Flair dvd coming out, but how many dollars has RF already made on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted October 4, 2003 Its kind of like saying that a murdurer should not be allowed to turn in another murdurer. If you were a drug dealer that turned in other drug dealers, then just how respected would you be among the other drug dealers or among the people that buy drugs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dmann2000 Report post Posted October 4, 2003 Well if that's the case, why not someone here tip off the FBI or WWE legal about RF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted October 4, 2003 That is pretty scary shit because that could easily happen to anyone of us who post in this folder. I wonder if this will make any tape dealer think twice about asking for plugs in tape reviews? I think this forum has had enough of the "RF is a hypocrite scumbag" debate this week with both the Nick Mondo and Tim Cooke threads so I'll stay out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted October 4, 2003 That example I gave probably wasn't the best because there are some big differences between that and this situation. Likewise, the drug deal example really doesn't fit that well either. A drug dealer who turned in others wouldn't be well liked by other dealers and by buyers. That's pretty obvious. This case is fundamentally different because RF "turned in" the tape dealer because he was stealing from them and thus doing something illegal that effected them. I guess a better example would be a murderer who turns in someone that kills his brother. Anyway, it all comes down to this: Anyone who sells tapes illegally deserves whatever consequences come to them because the activity is ILLEGAL. It just amazes me that people will defend an illegal activity and get mad at the person that turned them in. Instead of getting mad at and blaming the person that was being stolen from and turned in the tape trader, wouldn't it make more sense to place the blame on the person actually doing the illegal activity? If ROH is breaking copyright laws, then they derserve whatever punishment comes their way. But stop trying to make this guy seem like a victim because he got turned in for doing an illegal activity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted October 4, 2003 If ROH is breaking copyright laws, then they derserve whatever punishment comes their way. It's not ROH that is selling boot legged tapes, it's ROB FEINSTEIN or RF VIDEO, although RF owns ROH, the two are complete different enitites. I have no sympathy for MOV, he deserves what he gets. If you sell tapes then you take the risk of getting caught Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted October 4, 2003 That example I gave probably wasn't the best because there are some big differences between that and this situation. Likewise, the drug deal example really doesn't fit that well either. A drug dealer who turned in others wouldn't be well liked by other dealers and by buyers. That's pretty obvious. This case is fundamentally different because RF "turned in" the tape dealer because he was stealing from them and thus doing something illegal that effected them. I guess a better example would be a murderer who turns in someone that kills his brother. Anyway, it all comes down to this: Anyone who sells tapes illegally deserves whatever consequences come to them because the activity is ILLEGAL. It just amazes me that people will defend an illegal activity and get mad at the person that turned them in. Instead of getting mad at and blaming the person that was being stolen from and turned in the tape trader, wouldn't it make more sense to place the blame on the person actually doing the illegal activity? If ROH is breaking copyright laws, then they derserve whatever punishment comes their way. But stop trying to make this guy seem like a victim because he got turned in for doing an illegal activity. Agreed. Although I'll buy from tape dealers, they are risking legal lawsuits when doing so, which is why I do not sell tapes. Hell, I don't even trade tapes anymore because I'm either too lazy or don't want to deal with people much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBarnett Report post Posted October 4, 2003 It's not ROH that is selling boot legged tapes, it's ROB FEINSTEIN or RF VIDEO, although RF owns ROH, the two are complete different enitites. I have no sympathy for MOV, he deserves what he gets. If you sell tapes then you take the risk of getting caught ROH/RF/The Big Homo-there's no difference. They're all sleeping in the same bed. There's only a risk of getting caught if someone rats you out. No one's been prosecuted before Boy Rob cried, instead of legally stopping him by himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted October 5, 2003 When one tape dealer runs a company where he needs profits for the tapes from the federation, then you can predict some kind of thing like this. Problem with WWE is they don't care unless website providers find out and (tape dealers on angelfire for example) delete the site and close any site accounts ran by said person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tpww7 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2003 Taken from someone over at the wrestlingclassics board, I found this to be pretty funny. FBI agent #1: There is going to be a huge terrorist attack tonight, we have to prevent it. FBI agent #2: Forget that, we have real crimes to deal with. Some guy in Delaware is making a copy of the Best of Low-Ki! FBI agent #1: That sick ******* . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2003 Between this and the FBI finally taking down the threat that was Tommy Chong... I can sleep safe. ... Someone should turn him in for that Flair link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2003 It would be hypocritical for me to get at tape dealers as I rely on it to get ROH stuff as I AINT buying it from the US, and I usually get the stuff face to face, which saves me getting PayPal and sending money and shit like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites