No Mercy 2003 Workrate Predictions Thread

[Guest Bricks]

Cena v Undertaker = really good match.

 

Angle v Undertaker = really good match.

 

Cena v Angle = why not ?

No Undertaker.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

If you people just admit that this certainly isn't Bret/SCSA and certainly is a waste of both men's time, I'll let it go.

I admit that it might not be the next Bret/Austin.

 

But it's not a waste of some people's time.

 

WWE tries to build Cena as a main eventer.

 

Angle is the closest thing they have to an established main eventer with Taker and Lesnar both in the title match.

 

Angle helps give the rub (note I didn't say Jobbing necisarrily) to Cena, boosting the main event status.

 

Angle proves that he's not like some people (read: HHH) who never wants to help a person look good in the ring.

 

Gives something for Angle to do close to the top of the card while not in the title picture (which is good, regulating people in main event area. Gives more fresh matches)

 

Helps push someone new.

 

Hence, not a waste of time

[Downhome 0]

Biker Chain Match for the WWE Championship*

Brock Lesnar Vs. The Undertaker

 

- Coming off of a "HUGE" win over his daughter earlier in the night, Vince will run in at the very end of this match pissing Linda off once again, and either get the chain for Lesnar to help him pick up the win via pinfall, or just set off a DQ, which will allow Brock to keep the title anyway. Whichever happens, the show will end with Taker kicking Vince's ass to send the fans home happy. ***

 

"I Quit" Match (Power positions on the line)

Vince McMahon w/Sable Vs. Stephanie McMahon w/Linda

 

- Vince will win with help from one of his "boys", allowing him to be the only athority figure on SD. Well, that is untill Austin is shipped over to SD to be the GM by Linda. Yes, Linda will both make the guys on RAW happy and get payback on Vince in the same move, OMG~! 0 *'s

 

United States Title

Eddie Guerrero Vs. The Big Show

 

- The point of this match is to truly make Guerrero mean something to the fans, to make it look like he actually has a shot against a main eventer. Well, that's what the match SHOULD be trying to accomplish. I think that Guerrero will win, but he could very well loose also. Remember, Eddie has got the upper hand on TBS for two weeks in a row. Depending on what happens on the upcoming SD show, will tell us who will win. I'm sticking with Eddie however, I really think this is to help build the guy up so they can feed him to Lesnar. **1/2

 

Kurt Angle Vs. John Cena

 

- I'm going to pick Cena though, as it's been a while since Cena got a big win over anyone, I believe. Besides, Kurt seems to be the guy who will lay down for anyone in order to help build them up. So yeah, my pick is Cena. **1/2

 

Chris Benoit Vs. A-Train

 

- Chris Benoit is going to win this match. I don't really have any logic to go by on this one though. Just call it a hunch, or whatever. **1/2

 

Matt Hardy Vs. Zach Gowen

 

- Matt Hardy will win the match after Zach puts up a bit of a fight. After the match, Matt will invite Zach to become an MFer, and Zach will accept. **

 

WWE Cruiserweight Championship

Mysterio Vs. Tajiri

 

- Without a doubt, this will be the match of the night. I think that Tajiri will hold on to the title, but only after he gets a little bit of help from "someone". Perhaps a debuting Yang? ***3/4

[Jack_Bauer 0]

I admit that it might not be the next Bret/Austin

 

MIGHT ?!?!?!

 

The reason people will go down on this match is BECAUSE of the over expecting. I don't expect a ***** but I DO expect at LEAST a *** match from them.

[Guest Anglesault]

If you people just admit that this certainly isn't Bret/SCSA and certainly is a waste of both men's time, I'll let it go.

I admit that it might not be the next Bret/Austin.

MIGHT NOT?

 

Angle helps give the rub (note I didn't say Jobbing necisarrily) to Cena, boosting the main event status.

 

Yep, that system worked so well for Cena/Brock

 

...

 

And Cena/Taker.

 

What a winning formula!

 

If Angle wins, so what he beat the guy who everyone beats

 

If he loses, he just lost to the guy everyone beats. It will hurt Angle more than help Cena, because it won't be a covincing win.

 

Gives something for Angle to do close to the top of the card while not in the title picture (which is good, regulating people in main event area. Gives more fresh matches)

 

Cycling ME's helps jackshit. "Two months in the ME, three in the midcard" creates NO main eventers

[Jack_Bauer 0]

WWE are gonna build Cena up and knock him back down again.

 

A CLEAN win may help Cena if he can beat Angle. A screwjob win with help over Undertaker was OBVIOUSLY not going to help.

[Guest Anglesault]

WWE are gonna build Cena up and knock him back down again.

 

A CLEAN win may help Cena if he can beat Angle.

And losing clean to the guy that Brock and Taker beat rather effortlessly will do what, exactly, for Kurt?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Gives something for Angle to do close to the top of the card while not in the title picture (which is good, regulating people in main event area. Gives more fresh matches)

 

Cycling ME's helps jackshit. "Two months in the ME, three in the midcard" creates NO main eventers

Funny, it did in the late 90s.

 

Rock, Foley, Show, Austin, Taker, HHH...

 

They didn't always stay in the top match on the card, yet they stayed Main Eventers.

 

Plus, it kept the Main Event scene expansive.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Show a main eventer?

 

Rock, Austin and HHH spent more time in midcard matches than main events?

 

Foley and Taker are unique horses of different colors. Exceptions to the rule due to who they are.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Show a main eventer?

 

Rock, Austin and HHH spent more time in midcard matches than main events?

 

Foley and Taker are unique horses of different colors. Exceptions to the rule due to who they are.

He's a main eventer now, is he not?

 

And did I say MID CARD? no, I didn't. I said "Not IN the Title Picture".

[the pinjockey 0]

Taker was already established as a ME

 

Foley - I wouldn't really call him a main eventer until he had his run with the Rock on the top of the card that lasted a good bit

 

Austin - Please don't say he ever got shuffled to the midcard once he got made

 

HHH - the god push didn't include many detours

 

Rock - I don't recall many trips to the midcard for him either

 

Show - He is as much of a main eventer as the Big Boss Man

 

All of them were made, because once it was decided they should become MEs they were put in main events for a sustained period.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I concede on the not main event/midcard note.

 

But Show has gradually lost status since Vengeance. He wasn't on the SummerSlam card. What main events has he done since July? And please don't say that joke of a show from last week. He reverted back to his Big Joke character there.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Taker was already established as a ME

 

Foley - I wouldn't really call him a main eventer until he had his run with the Rock on the top of the card that lasted a good bit

 

Austin - Please don't say he ever got shuffled to the midcard once he got made

 

HHH - the god push didn't include many detours

 

Rock - I don't recall many trips to the midcard for him either

 

Show - He is as much of a main eventer as the Big Boss Man

 

All of them were made, because once it was decided they should become MEs they were put in main events for a sustained period.

Why is everyone saying mid-card...

 

I SAID OUT OF THE TITLE PICTURE!

 

Geez, stop putting words in my mouth for that!

[Guest Anglesault]

Taker was already established as a ME

 

Foley - I wouldn't really call him a main eventer until he had his run with the Rock on the top of the card that lasted a good bit

 

Austin - Please don't say he ever got shuffled to the midcard once he got made

 

HHH - the god push didn't include many detours

 

Rock - I don't recall many trips to the midcard for him either

 

Show - He is as much of a main eventer as the Big Boss Man

 

All of them were made, because once it was decided they should become MEs they were put in main events for a sustained period.

Why is everyone saying mid-card...

 

I SAID OUT OF THE TITLE PICTURE!

 

Geez, stop putting words in my mouth for that!

Because Angle/Cena IS a midcard match, not a "ME but not a title match" like you are claiming.

 

When Austin was out of the title scene in late 00/early 01, he wasn't feuding with X-Pac, but HHH.

 

Angle/Taker would be out of the title picture but ME level.

 

Look at Cena/Angle, at best three or four from the top.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Taker was already established as a ME

 

Foley - I wouldn't really call him a main eventer until he had his run with the Rock on the top of the card that lasted a good bit

 

Austin - Please don't say he ever got shuffled to the midcard once he got made

 

HHH - the god push didn't include many detours

 

Rock - I don't recall many trips to the midcard for him either

 

Show - He is as much of a main eventer as the Big Boss Man

 

All of them were made, because once it was decided they should become MEs they were put in main events for a sustained period.

Why is everyone saying mid-card...

 

I SAID OUT OF THE TITLE PICTURE!

 

Geez, stop putting words in my mouth for that!

Because Angle/Cena IS a midcard match, not a "ME but not a title match" like you are claiming.

 

When Austin was out of the title scene in late 00/early 01, he wasn't feuding with X-Pac, but HHH.

 

Angle/Taker would be out of the title picture but ME level.

 

Look at Cena/Angle, at best three or four from the top.

You forgetting when Austin feuded with Rikishi when he didn't have the title?

 

How about when Rock and Foley were batting the HOLLYS of all people?

[Guest nikowwf]

Angle/Cena is 3 out of 4 from the top because of how the WWE is positioning it and there f*cked up priorities, not cause it has Cena in it.

 

niko

[Guest Anglesault]

Taker was already established as a ME

 

Foley - I wouldn't really call him a main eventer until he had his run with the Rock on the top of the card that lasted a good bit

 

Austin - Please don't say he ever got shuffled to the midcard once he got made

 

HHH - the god push didn't include many detours

 

Rock - I don't recall many trips to the midcard for him either

 

Show - He is as much of a main eventer as the Big Boss Man

 

All of them were made, because once it was decided they should become MEs they were put in main events for a sustained period.

Why is everyone saying mid-card...

 

I SAID OUT OF THE TITLE PICTURE!

 

Geez, stop putting words in my mouth for that!

Because Angle/Cena IS a midcard match, not a "ME but not a title match" like you are claiming.

 

When Austin was out of the title scene in late 00/early 01, he wasn't feuding with X-Pac, but HHH.

 

Angle/Taker would be out of the title picture but ME level.

 

Look at Cena/Angle, at best three or four from the top.

You forgetting when Austin feuded with Rikishi when he didn't have the title?

 

For less than a month in the top angle of the show?

 

How about when Rock and Foley were batting the HOLLYS of all people?

 

While Rock was feuding wih HHH?

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

You forgetting when Austin feuded with Rikishi when he didn't have the title?

 

How about when Rock and Foley were batting the HOLLYS of all people?

No one remembers those feuds/matches with any fondness.

 

How is this pro-Angle/Cena again?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

OK...how about the YEAR or so that Bret Hart was out of the title picture and not main eventing shows...feuding with people like Jerry Lawler, Hakushi, and Isaac Yankem?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

You forgetting when Austin feuded with Rikishi when he didn't have the title?

 

How about when Rock and Foley were batting the HOLLYS of all people?

No one remembers those feuds/matches with any fondness.

 

How is this pro-Angle/Cena again?

It's saying that just because he's out of the main event for RIGHT NOW doesn't mean it'll hurt him completely in the long run.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I totally forgot about Taker/Vince at SurSer.

 

They could do:

 

*Taker runs in and costs Vince his (what does Vince do again?)*

 

*Vince runs in and costs Taker his title match)*

 

*Steph books Taker vs. Vince at SurSer since Vince is still a contracted wrestler*

 

*They build it up as "13 years in the making" and "the fans have always wanted to see Vince vs. Taker"*

 

OR

 

Vince cheats to win to beat Steph. Taker, being the 'conscience of the WWE' takes it upon himself to right that wrong. They fight for Steph's GMship.

 

OR

 

HHH runs in and saves Steph, then beats up Brock in the main event and ends the show holding the title over Lesnars fallen body.

 

RRR: Thinking the last one is most likely to happen.

[Guest Anglesault]

You forgetting when Austin feuded with Rikishi when he didn't have the title?

 

How about when Rock and Foley were batting the HOLLYS of all people?

No one remembers those feuds/matches with any fondness.

 

How is this pro-Angle/Cena again?

It's saying that just because he's out of the main event for RIGHT NOW doesn't mean it'll hurt him completely in the long run.

Repeatedly taking him out the ME doesn't help anything. I can't think of a solid period of time (greater than six months) that Kurt was out of the midcard.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Lesnar vs Undertapper-- 2 stars

 

Vince vs Stephanie -- negative stars

 

Eddie vs Show -- 2 stars

 

Cena vs Angle -- 2 3/4 to 3 stars

 

Benoit vs A-Train -- 4 stars

 

Matt vs Zach 1 3/4 stars

 

Rey vs Tajiri -- 3 to 3 1/2 stars

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

You think that you can slip that "Benoit/Albert ****" by us?

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I don't call what you all say, Angle / Cena will be the best match on the PPV next to the CW match.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Benoit vs Train will be better then Angle vs Cena. Train is better then Cena and Angle vs Benoit isn't even a contest.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Biker Chain Match for the WWE Championship

Brock Lesnar Vs. The Undertaker

- I admit, I thought the HIAC between these two was WAY better than I expected and I honestly thought it was enjoyable. Then when I heard about this match I still wasn't very excited about it. Then the WWE creative machine {/sarcasm} though "Let's make it a biker chain match"!!!!! WOO HOO!!! Mediocre workrate coming our way here folks. ***, and that's me being nice.

 

 

"I Quit" Match (Power positions on the line)

Vince McMahon w/Sable Vs. Stephanie McMahon w/Linda

-DUD.....Nuff said.

 

United States Title

Eddie Guerrero Vs. The Big Show

-Of course Eddie will be entertaining in this one, but that is about it. As good as Eddie G is, I honestly don't think even he can carry him to anything above ***. So I am going to go with ** here for save measure.

 

 

Kurt Angle Vs. John Cena

-I have to admit, I am actually thinking this match could really delilver. I will definately admit that this match totally rests on the shoulder's of John Cena. If Cena can step up his game and go all out for this one, I definately think that with the proper time this match could go as far as ***/

or ****.

 

Chris Benoit Vs. A-Train

-I honestly don't even wanna see this one. What a waste of time for Benoit. **

 

 

Matt Hardy Vs. Zach Gowen

-What a waste of time for people watching the PPV. Well, at least Matt is getting on PPV. **

 

WWE Cruiserweight Championship

Mysterio Vs. Tajiri

-Now with the match that these two had on Smackdown a few weeks ago, this one has tons of promise. I have honestly been big on both these guys for some time now. This is probably the best matchup (workrate wise) on the entire PPV. I am gonna say somewhere in the ***1/4 to **** area.