Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 With all the f*ck ups of scott steiner AND the creative team, do you guys think he'll ever be able to draw enough heat to get back into main event status? He's one of my favorites entertainment-wise... If you watched wcw before it was sold, you know what i mean. god I really hope they book this guy right.(wait a minute) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Like a lot of other people around here, 99/00 heel Steiner would rock it, but having him get pissed about by Steve Austin on Raw's not gonna help him. Have him a different fued on Raw, or move him to SD to fued with someone like Angle and see where it takes him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 i think he should fued with jericho. i think it would be really fun to see jericho taunt the big dumb insane steiner. at the same time, it would be fun to see steiner get his hands on jericho. they actually started a mini fued a while back, but never developed it further. creative is fuck retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Are you STILL dreaming of a Y2J face turn???? It's not gonna happen, it should have happened at Mania! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 creative is fuck retarded. *cough*IRONY*cough* Steiner can't wrestle anymore. All he can do is a clothesline, an elbow drop, camel clutch, and a belly to belly. They shouldn't have hired him as he only has one working foot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 creative is fuck retarded. *cough*IRONY*cough* Steiner can't wrestle anymore. All he can do is a clothesline, an elbow drop, camel clutch, and a belly to belly. They shouldn't have hired him as he only has one working foot. That didn't stop them from hiring Kerry Von Erich back in the day. Or Zack Gowen now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 That was when Chris was feuding with like 5 different people at the same time. I'd rather see them as a team anyway than Steiner just plow through Jericho again. And you know he would. Because he's bigger. They won't even let RVD get a win on him. Jericho and Steiner actually make a pretty good heel team though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Since Steiner has turned heel he is one of the most entertaining things on Raw imo- I've always been a mark for his heels shtick and I've also recently watched some of his stuff from his main event run in wcw 2000 and can't really tell the difference between that and some of his more recent stuff. He s in better condition than earlier this year and works much better as a heel. I think he could easilly be part of the Raw main event.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 they could make it a heel/heel fued. although theres no face, it would be ratings gold. and by the way, i am aware of steiners in ring limitations, but he can do his part simply with promos and sports entertainment stuff. besides, jerichos the only wrestler light enough for steiner to look good against who is worth half a shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 they could make it a heel/heel fued. although theres no face, it would be ratings gold. Yep, cause people just love those! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 you wouldn't enjoy that? alot of people have this misconception that in order for a fued to draw there must be a heel and a face. thats getting boring. if two guys can entertain, thats all that matters. ratings and buy rates are a subset of interest. i for one think a fued like that would be really interesting and just as fun as a stripper with a backpackfull of pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Steiner is finished. At least as a main eventer anyway, and Steve Austin kicking his ass had nothing to do with it. Steiner has a bad shoulder, a fucked back and one leg that is virtually useless, and it's the WWE who are retarded for NOT pushing him to the main events again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Are you STILL dreaming of a Y2J face turn???? Him clotheslining Christian few weeks back got my hopes up, but then again, I'm hoping for some goodness to come out of the romance angle. So you gonna suck my dick or what? Anybody know the story on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 you wouldn't enjoy that? alot of people have this misconception that in order for a fued to draw there must be a heel and a face. thats getting boring. if two guys can entertain, thats all that matters. ratings and buy rates are a subset of interest. i for one think a fued like that would be really interesting and just as fun as a stripper with a backpackfull of pot. We would, but we're not typical fans. I mean, there's a reason you never see it happen, it's because usually people just want to see the heel get his ass beat by the face and that's it. They need to have someone they can root for. If two heels are fighting they won't care about who's winning or what's going on. They'll probably just switch the channel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Jericho and Steiner actually make a pretty good heel team though. Damn, I thought I was the only one. They looked and worked pretty good together. Steiner is the big power house and Jericho is the work horse. We need more teams like this. No one has really been able to get it right since Bret and Anvil, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 actually, i think that if wwe would just take a risk and try doing more fueds like that it might catch on. if there is something funny or involving going on as i said, it shouldn't matter. people are used to face-heel fueds, but thats because wwe makes it that way. people want to be entertained, and there are actually marks out there that like steiner or jericho, simply because they are fun to watch. at the very least it would give vince a good idea of whos really over judging by crowd reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Jericho gets cheered more then then faces alot of times. Steiner included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Steiner is finished. At least as a main eventer anyway, and Steve Austin kicking his ass had nothing to do with it. Steiner has a bad shoulder, a fucked back and one leg that is virtually useless, and it's the WWE who are retarded for NOT pushing him to the main events again? yes... because he will be wrestling regardless. you might as well get some money in the process. i dont give a shit about what anyone else says on this. if steiner is pushed right, given victoria, and allowed to decide on what he says, he can still draw. injuries or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Steiner is finished. At least as a main eventer anyway, and Steve Austin kicking his ass had nothing to do with it. Steiner has a bad shoulder, a fucked back and one leg that is virtually useless, and it's the WWE who are retarded for NOT pushing him to the main events again? yes... because he will be wrestling regardless. you might as well get some money in the process. i dont give a shit about what anyone else says on this. if steiner is pushed right, given victoria, and allowed to decide on what he says, he can still draw. injuries or not "he will be wrestling regardless"? Right, so Nash should be pushed to the main events if he returns? After all, he will be wrestling anyway, so why not push him as the world champ!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Jericho and Steiner actually make a pretty good heel team though. Damn, I thought I was the only one. They looked and worked pretty good together. Steiner is the big power house and Jericho is the work horse. We need more teams like this. No one has really been able to get it right since Bret and Anvil, IMO. Yeah, exactly. At least you know with Steiner and Jericho, it won't be the pussy team that Christian and Jericho was. Steiner will dominate people and they'll let Jericho carry his own weight and keep up with him using his speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 "he will be wrestling regardless"? Right, so Nash should be pushed to the main events if he returns? After all, he will be wrestling anyway, so why not push him as the world champ!! are you fucking serious? with your attitude id figure you would match it with some insight. steiner isn't what he used to be by no stretch of the imagination, but he is still a decent worker. and he connects with the crowd. if he stopped with those ugly suplexes of his he would be a very watchable brawler imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TripleHater Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Yeah he Connect's with the Crowd thats why in every match he had everyone was Booing him(except his Heat matches) and Chanting STACY or STACY is hot and Thats why he comes out to no reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Steiner has more raw, natural talent than almost anyone on the roster. Sure he's limited, but his grasp of wrestling and getting the fans into a match make him valuable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 actually, i think that if wwe would just take a risk and try doing more fueds like that it might catch on. if there is something funny or involving going on as i said, it shouldn't matter. But it would matter. People won't watch when guys they hate are the only ones on the TV screen. That can't work and won't ever work. people want to be entertained, and there are actually marks out there that like steiner or jericho, simply because they are fun to watch. What would happen is the fans would probably turn Jericho face. Yet then it's not heel/heel anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Steiner has more raw, natural talent than almost anyone on the roster. Sure he's limited, but his grasp of wrestling and getting the fans into a match make him valuable. exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 I still say Jericho and Steiner are a fucking weird ass team. *not used to that pairing of styles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 We would, but we're not typical fans. I mean, there's a reason you never see it happen, it's because usually people just want to see the heel get his ass beat by the face and that's it. They need to have someone they can root for. There was this guy, his name was Stone Cold Steve Austin. He was a heel but people liked cheering for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 i just love hi interaction with the crowd and the constant taunting of the opponent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 Yeah he Connect's with the Crowd thats why in every match he had everyone was Booing him(except his Heat matches) and Chanting STACY or STACY is hot and Thats why he comes out to no reaction. every match? no, your wrong. obviously when he fucked up people booed, as they should for a shit match. im not surprised of the lack of crowd reaction during his face run. it was a shit fued no one cared about, and he was playing a face. even i dont like steiner as a face. he's been doing good lately, and he knows what to do with a crowd more than alot of people. how can someone not mark out for this guys heel act? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robvandam420 Report post Posted October 25, 2003 actually, i think that if wwe would just take a risk and try doing more fueds like that it might catch on. if there is something funny or involving going on as i said, it shouldn't matter. But it would matter. People won't watch when guys they hate are the only ones on the TV screen. That can't work and won't ever work. people want to be entertained, and there are actually marks out there that like steiner or jericho, simply because they are fun to watch. What would happen is the fans would probably turn Jericho face. Yet then it's not heel/heel anymore. it would work. i backed up my words with an explanation. its pretty hard to argue with my point. try though. and if it did turn jericho face, i would be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
