EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 The Yankees have declined Wells' $6 million option, and Wells becomes a free agent. Wells might be a good pickup, as he doesn't walk many batters. If you look at the statistics, Wells is almost exactly the same pitcher as Jamie Moyer, as odd as that sounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 There's still a chance the Yanks offer him a new deal, right? Please please please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 I wouldn't mind getting Wells. If Vazquez and Schilling end up too expensive, I would not be upset if Wells was their next option. He will probably be the cheapest good pitcher on the market, make a deal incentive heavy, and just kill a year or two until the kids in the minors are ready to go. I would rather get him for a year or two than a second tier FA who will want a 4-5 year deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 There's still a chance the Yanks offer him a new deal, right? Please please please. Absolutely. The Yankees are just as likely to get him as any other team, and maybe more so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 wouldn't mind getting Wells. If Vazquez and Schilling end up too expensive, I would not be upset if Wells was their next option. He will probably be the cheapest good pitcher on the market, make a deal incentive heavy, and just kill a year or two until the kids in the minors are ready to go. I would rather get him for a year or two than a second tier FA who will want a 4-5 year deal. I wouldn't mind getting Wells either, as long as it was a one year deal. He'd fit right in Philadelphia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 There's still a chance the Yanks offer him a new deal, right? Please please please. Alright...I'll admit, I'm not as versed with contract talk as I'd like to be. Why would the Yankees bother to resign him after they just declined Wells' option? How do the Yankees benefit exactly? Paying him LESS? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 There's still a chance the Yanks offer him a new deal, right? Please please please. Absolutely. The Yankees are just as likely to get him as any other team, and maybe more so. ::Hugs Al:: Thank God. ::Has awful visions of an Andy and Wells deprived rotation:: ::shudders:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 I would imagine the Yankees assume they can get Wells for less than 6 mil. It is a gamble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Yes Dames. The Yankees would figure that he'd make less on the open market, so they save money. The Angels pulled the same strategy last year when they resigned Brad Fullmer, declining his $4 million option, and then turning around and resigning him for $1 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 If Andy and David both go, who do we have next year? Mussina, Contreras, Lieber...ohmygod. Don't say it al, there has to be someone else to fill the number four start. right? RIGHT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 If they lose Wells and Pettite, I would be shocked if Colon or Vazquez wasn't in their rotation. I can't see George settling for that type of rotation, no matter what the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 If Andy and David both go, who do we have next year? Mussina, Contreras, Lieber...ohmygod. Don't say it al, there has to be someone else to fill the number four start. right? RIGHT? What's wrong with Jeff Weaver? Give me a few minutes and I'll scan the Columbus Clippers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Brandon Claussen? Oh wait.... :runs from Yankee fan attacks: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Jorge DePaula could be a passable fifth starter. Adrian Hernandez looks like a decent middle reliever as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Yip. Clausen now a red baby! So much for him having a good career because god knows we will kill the kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 If Andy and David both go, who do we have next year? Mussina, Contreras, Lieber...ohmygod. Don't say it al, there has to be someone else to fill the number four start. right? RIGHT? What's wrong with Jeff Weaver? What's right with him? I would have liked Claussen up here. Aaron Fucking Boone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 What's wrong with Jeff Weaver? You DO realize that you're arguing with AngleSault here right? Once again, I'm on his side. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Jorge DePaula could be a passable fifth starter. He was passable. Not someone I want going every fifth day. Adrian Hernandez Duquicito? He's not dead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Duquicito? He's not dead? I actually got his autograph at a AAA game two years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Duquicito? He's not dead? I actually got his autograph at a AAA game two years ago. Now, If I got his autograph, he'd be dead I'm the kiss of death Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 There are a couple of cubans defecting this year, aren't there? If they are eligible, they are probably already on a plane to talk to George. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 5, 2003 There are a couple of cubans defecting this year, aren't there? If they are eligible, they are probably already on a plane to talk to George. George wouldn't leave Tampa today. Take that for what it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 From baseballamerica.com Two Cuban Stars Defect To U.S. By Kevin Baxter October 30, 2003 MIAMI--Cuban baseball stars Maels Rodriguez and Yobal Dueñas confirmed in a radio interview Thursday that they have defected with the goal of playing professional baseball in the United States. The pair, reported missing by Cuban authorities last Saturday, surfaced on Spanish-language radio station WQBA-AM (1140) in Miami. The players, along with Miami-based agent Henry Vilar, were interviewed by phone from an undisclosed location and are believed to be in El Salvador. Rodriguez, a 24-year-old righthander, would be the best big league prospect to defect from Cuba were it not for recent rumors of back and arm injuries. Rodriguez, whose fastball regularly reached 100 mph in the past, set the single-season strikeout record in Cuba, fanning 263 batters in 178 innings three years ago. In the 2001-02 season, he struck out 219 in 148-1/3 innings, going 14-3, 2.13 ERA. But in this spring's Cuban playoffs, Rodriguez pitched in 10 of 14 games for his Sancti Spíritus team and pitched complete games in two exhibitions. Cuban officials then left him off the Pan American Games and Olympic qualifying rosters, blaming arm and back injuries for the sudden loss of 15 mph off his fastball. "I'll demonstrate [i'm healthy]," Rodriguez said. "I'm going to demonstrate that I can still throw 100. These are things that they invent to cut a little off the careers of some athletes." Rodriguez, listed at 5-foot-11, 176 pounds during the 2000 Olympics, has had a strong international career as well, striking out 22 in 13 scoreless innings during the Olympics. One pro scout in Sydney rated Rodriguez' fastball an 8 on the scouting 2-to-8 scale, "because you can't go higher. "It's got velocity, it explodes, he's got command of it. That's as good as it gets." Even if the injury reports prove true, Rodriguez is young enough that he could return to have a long career. The only comparable previous Cuban defectors in terms of age have been Livan Hernandez and Danys Baez, and Baez had much less experience when he defected compared to Rodriguez. "I want to play the best baseball and that's in the United States," Rodriguez said. ‘‘It's a difficult step because you know how things are in Cuba. So when Yobal and I made this decision, it was the most important one in our careers." Dueñas, a 6-foot-2, 187-pound second baseman from Pinar del Rio, is a five-tool player and former Cuban stolen base champ who, at 31, is on the down side of a career that saw him debut in the Cuban national league at 17. Dueñas confirmed Thursday he was suspended by Cuban officials for his relationship with the family of Yankees righthander and former teammate Jose Ariel Contreras. "I never stopped seeing Ariel's family," he said. "He always treated me like a brother, and when he made the decision that I'm making now, I never turned my back on his family." Vilar said he arranged the players' escape from Cuba by boat. If the players seek political asylum or residency outside the United States, they will likely be declared free agents by Major League Baseball and be able to sign with whichever team offers the most money. Vilar's only other Cuban client, righthander Gary Galvez, defected to Miami a year ago but took up residency in the Dominican Republic in order to sign a free-agent deal with the Boston Red Sox. He reportedly ran into immigration problems after that, however, and remains in the Dominican, according to the Red Sox. Vilar did not address his next step during Thursday's interview and he did not return calls to his cell phone seeking comment. Kevin Baxter covers baseball for the Miami Herald. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Why all the love for Wells. Is fatass being out of shape and injury prone, may of cost the Yankees Game 5 of the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted November 5, 2003 I doubt Wells will be back if both Torre and Stottlemyer(I'm probably butchering the spelling of that name) return. I'm hoping the Yankees sign Greg Maddux...of course I'm a Red Sox fan so there ya go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Frankly, I'll be surprised if the Yankees lose Pettitte. With Clemens now gone and Wells seemingly out the door, Big Stein will probably offer Pettitte a TON of cash to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 5, 2003 I doubt Wells will be back if both Torre and Stottlemyer(I'm probably butchering the spelling of that name) return. I'm hoping the Yankees sign Greg Maddux...of course I'm a Red Sox fan so there ya go Maddux in his decline is still better then 75% of today's players in their "prime". I wouldn't mind taking Maddux but not his hefty contract unless he had a remergence as a pitcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 Maddux in his decline is still better then 75% of today's players in their "prime". I wouldn't mind taking Maddux but not his hefty contract unless he had a remergence as a pitcher. Maddux isn't under contract at all. He's a free agent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2003 I want to see Wells go elsewhere if only to see him regrow his monster goatee again That thing was scary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2003 Atlanta won't let Maddux go. If they paid $15 million for him last year, they'll pay a smaller price to keep him on board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
