Bored 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 It looks from their list as if the only teams left in line for new stadiums (besides the Yankees and Red Sox) are the A's, Twins, Cardinals, Mets and Marlins. Cardinals are getting a new stadium in 2006. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1693365 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Braden Looper is the new Mets closer. Good luck Mets fans. Essentially, Looper is a stopgap while they wait for their minor league guys to develop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Yet Ugueth Urbina, who's far more proven, still lacks a job. he's demanding about $5-6mill a year and nobody wants to pay it, that's why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Yet Ugueth Urbina, who's far more proven, still lacks a job. he's demanding about $5-6mill a year and nobody wants to pay it, that's why If he lowered the price, I think the Twins would have some intrests. They are lacking a setup man and a closer now, are they not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 7, 2004 on the mets ballpark thing, wasnt one of their plans to do a retractable dome with a field that slid out so they could use the dome for other events and not tear up the REAL grass. Its sorta like what they are doing for the Arizona Cardinals new football stadium but that was all I had heard of that design. http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/future/...etsBallpark.htm That site by the way, is an awesome site for sports stadiums. It looks from their list as if the only teams left in line for new stadiums (besides the Yankees and Red Sox) are the A's, Twins, Cardinals, Mets and Marlins. I don't WANT a new stadium. The old Stadium suits us just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Now now. Studies have shown that new ballparks increase attendance, leading to an increase in payroll, and a BOOM period for the team and its fans. Just ask Cincinnati. And Pittsburgh. And Milwaukee. Those franchises are poorly run. Give the Twins, and maybe the A's (Bored can help me out) a new stadium and people will show up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 If four seasons of 90+ win baseball doesn't entice fans to show up, I don't see what a new stadium would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Now now. Studies have shown that new ballparks increase attendance, leading to an increase in payroll, and a BOOM period for the team and its fans. Just ask Cincinnati. And Pittsburgh. And Milwaukee. Those franchises are poorly run. Give the Twins, and maybe the A's (Bored can help me out) a new stadium and people will show up. Yes and the A's draw fine as it is considering the ownership takes every chance they get to piss on its fans. That place will be a ghost town if they ever fall off from contention again though as the season ticket base is very, very low and that's where a new stadium helps. But of course if you don't keep a contender on a field you'll only get one year boost in ticket sales and revenue and then it goes right back down the shitter as the examples al brought up. A's will never get a new stadium in Oakland with the current ownership though. Actually the Coliseum was probably the best of the cookie cutter, multi-purpose stadiums of the 60s to be built (okay not exactly the best compliment in the world) and was a perfectly fine place to watch a basbeall game. But it was ruined when the Raiders moved back and put up that monstrosity "Mt. Davis" and took out the old school bleachers. Now it really does feel like your watching a baseball game in a football stadium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I heard a rumor that Palmeiro will be signing back with the Orioles, possibly as soon as tomorrow. The interesting thing is that Vlad and Palmeiro have the same agent.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 D'backs sign Robbie Almoar for 1 year/$1 million. At that price, I'm really surprised the Cardinals didn't get ahold of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 7, 2004 D'backs sign Robbie Almoar for 1 year/$1 million. At that price, I'm really surprised the Cardinals didn't get ahold of him. They let Young and Alomar go unsigned. Theres a rumor going around (probally jibberish, but it comes from a good Cards board) that they are looking to sign Maddox. Hopefully not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I heard a rumor that Palmeiro will be signing back with the Orioles, possibly as soon as tomorrow. The interesting thing is that Vlad and Palmeiro have the same agent.. Why? I understand the need to sign Miguel cause he filled a need. And Vlad fills a need in the outfield. Lopez fixes the problems at catcher and at least gives them a decent bat. But what is it with Baltimore wanting to just wash their hands of ALL of their talented younger guns in favor of Free Agents? So what, the line-up would be C- Lopez 1B- Palmerio 2B- Hairston/Roberts SS- Miguel 3B- Mora I guess, see this one leaves me puzzled LF- Bigbie I guess CF- Matos RF- Vlad DH- Gibbons and Cust So, what about the pitching? I'd rather see them push for Ponson than Palmerio. I like Palmerio but they don't need him if they land Vlad. But now I see why teams weren't crazy for Vlad. His back problems are scary cause he wants a six year deal. And the last time the O's committed to someone that long, his hip fell apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 (edited) Yet Ugueth Urbina, who's far more proven, still lacks a job. he's demanding about $5-6mill a year and nobody wants to pay it, that's why Cubs had major interest till they heard his price tag. Have the Cubs grabbed any bullpen help besides Hawkins? Cause unless I missed it, that is all they have grabbed in the one major area that needed fixing. Oh, I forgot Merc. Edited January 7, 2004 by 2GOLD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 The Mets have just entered the race for Vlad according to ESPN the magazine Mets could enter Vlad picture For the price he is asking of the O's, I can now understand why they might be going after Palmerio. 7 years is insane. 6 years is JUST as insane but 7 is asking to be burned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Toronto signed Terry Adams. 1yr/1.7 mil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Monterrey Expos? MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) -- A group of baseball officials that included Texas owner Tom Hicks visited Monterrey on Wednesday to examine the facilities as they work toward finding a new home from the Montreal Expos. The Expos were bought by the other 29 major league teams before the 2002 season, and baseball officials have spoken in the past with groups from Northern Virginia, Portland, Ore.; and Washington, D.C. To raise revenue, the commissioner's office moved 22 Expos home games to San Juan, Puerto Rico, for the 2003 and '04 seasons. Monterrey had bid for the 22 games this year. Baseball owners have said they want funding for a new ballpark in place before deciding on a permanent home. In the past, baseball commissioner Bud Selig called the Mexicans' temporary proposal ``formidable.'' This is such a stupid idea. How many visiting players are going to have to sit out a game since they forgot and drank the water. You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who's going to want to play in a 3rd world country when there are 29 other teams located in 2 of the richest countries in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Cirillo To Padres Details SAN DIEGO -- Jeff Cirillo became a $6.6 million "super utility" infielder for the San Diego Padres after they completed a six-player trade with the Seattle Mariners on Tuesday. The deal came less than three weeks after Cirillo blocked a trade to the New York Mets, saying he'd rather come off the bench for the Mariners than have an uncertain role with an East Coast team. After struggling mightily for two seasons in Seattle, Cirillo is now headed back to the National League, where he flourished with Milwaukee and Colorado, batting over .300 in four consecutive seasons. The Padres also acquired right-handed pitcher Brian Sweeney and $4,775,000, payable in 2005, in exchange for right-hander Kevin Jarvis, catcher Wiki Gonzalez, infielder Dave Hansen and minor league outfielder Vince Faison. Not only do the Padres get some badly needed depth in Cirillo, who grew up in Southern California, but they were able to dump Jarvis and Gonzalez, who flopped after signing long-term deals. "We really feel a change of scenery will do this guy well," Padres general manager Kevin Towers said after making his second big deal in a week. The Padres signed David Wells last Wednesday after the left-hander, who grew up in San Diego, spurned the New York Yankees. Besides backing up Sean Burroughs at third, Cirillo can also back up Phil Nevin at first, Mark Loretta at second and might also play some at shortstop, where rookie Khalil Greene is the leading candidate for the everyday job. Burroughs and Nevin both missed substantial time with injuries the last two seasons. "We kind of look at him as a super utility guy, who can protect Burroughs when we face someone like Randy Johnson," said Towers, who's building up the Padres for their first season in $458 million Petco Park. Burroughs, a left-handed hitter, had a solid 2003 season after struggling as a rookie in 2002. He took over as the leadoff hitter late in the season. "Sean Burroughs is our third baseman, and Jeff Cirillo knows that," Towers said. "He'll be our guy, and we'll pick and choose times when we'll play Jeff at third base. He shouldn't look at it like somebody's in the wings waiting to take his job. He'll be our third baseman for a long, long time." Burroughs is only 23 while Cirillo is 34. If Cirillo rebounds, the Padres could trade him. "I think this is a great gamble," Towers said. "This guy has a chance to turn his career around and maybe create value. The guys we traded, we didn't see future value." Cirillo, a two-time All-Star, has been a bust in Seattle since being acquired in a trade with the Rockies following the 2001 season. He hit only .249 with six homers and 54 RBI in 2002, then lost his starting job last season when he dropped to a career-low .205 in 258 at-bats. His contract contained a limited no-trade clause that allowed him to block deals to about 10 teams. "Jeff had made it clear that it was important to him and to his family to play elsewhere next season," Mariners general manager Bill Bavasi said in a statement. "We think this deal gives us flexibility in 2004 and 2005 that we did not have with Jeff on the roster, and helps fill some needs on our big league club." While Cirillo will make $6.6 million this year, the deal is practically a wash for the Padres. Jarvis is due $4.25 million in the final year of a $9 million, three-year deal he signed after leading the Padres with 12 wins in 2001. Bothered by elbow trouble, he won only six games combined the last two seasons. Gonzalez, who lost his starting job twice during the last two years and at times angered the Padres with a lax attitude, will earn $1.2 million this year. Hansen will get $750,000. In 2005, the Mariners will make up the difference between Cirillo's $7,025,000 salary and the $2.25 million Gonzalez will be due in the final season of his deal. Jarvis, 34, went 4-8 with a 5.87 ERA in 16 starts last year. Hansen has been one of the best pinch-hitters during his 13-year career, but hit only .164 in that role last year. Gonzalez hit .200 with no homers and 10 RBI in 65 at-bats before being sent to Triple-A Portland in May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 God there was nothing good with the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Toronto signed Terry Adams. 1yr/1.7 mil. They also signed Chris Gomez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 7, 2004 God there was nothing good with the deal. You might be surprised with Kevin Jarvis. In a pitcher's park he may be a 13 game winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I'd certainly be surprised. Qualcomm stadium wasn't exactly hitter's paradise, and Jarvis stunk last year. He's 34, and only twice as he won more than four games in a season. His home run rate is beyond awful, and that's with playing in one of the toughest parks to hit a home run. Jarvis isn't even in the rotation at this point. He'll sit in the bullpen as a mop-up guy, unless Seattle suffers a slew of injuries. Of course, the way Bill Bavasi's going, he'll probably give him the ball on opening day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I'd certainly be surprised. Qualcomm stadium wasn't exactly hitter's paradise, and Jarvis stunk last year. He's 34, and only twice as he won more than four games in a season. His home run rate is beyond awful, and that's with playing in one of the toughest parks to hit a home run. Jarvis isn't even in the rotation at this point. He'll sit in the bullpen as a mop-up guy, unless Seattle suffers a slew of injuries. Of course, the way Bill Bavasi's going, he'll probably give him the ball on opening day. I hate you for being right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 However, Jarvis' contract is up after this season.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 8, 2004 Still, if Jarvis is healthy he could surprise people...and then they could go ahead and trade him for some offense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted January 8, 2004 Toronto signed Terry Adams. 1yr/1.7 mil. Good deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2004 Kevin Jarvis has a career ERA of 5.83, a career high of 4.79, and a career ERA+ of 75. Bleh. I think Kevin will be the most surprised person of all if he has a good year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2004 I will be suprised if the M's win 80 games this year the way things are going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2004 I've got them in the top third yet. They do have a fairly solid 1-5 rotation. I do have some serious reservations about their future however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2004 White Sox pick up Cliff Pollitte, for $800,000. Nice signing for the price. Pollitte had some rough spots last year, but he's put up good numbers most of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2004 On another note, I'd like to pimp an excellent weekly column titled The Pinstriped Bible. While the author is a Yankees fan, he presents an intelligent and balanced view of baseball, and is often humourous to boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
