Art Sandusky Posted November 12, 2003 Report Posted November 12, 2003 I was going through some unlabeled tapes of mine and discovered a tape of October 2000 Raws and Smackdowns that I never recorded over for whatever reason. One of these Raws was the night after No Mercy, where HHH defeated Chris Benoit and Angle won his first title and all that. Benoit came out to cut a promo on his loss the previous evening, and what he had to say strikes me now, three years later, as odd (credit CRZ for the transcript): "Since beeing in the WWF, I've noticed that there are many different ways to succeed and achieve success. I've noticed that talent...is pointless. I've noticed that sheer will and determination...are useless. And being the best damn technical wrestler in the entire industry today does not mean one damn thing. You see, here in the WWF, success is not gagued by your 'wrestling' ability. A perfect example of that would be...Triple H. So he got a win last night. So WHAT. So he walks away with another victory. So what. Triple H, YOU did not BEAT me. The only Game that one last night was you getting help from your bitch of a wife! You did not prove me wrong - you pissed me off, and that's just the way it is! So tonight, before I set an example, before I set a new standard with your friend Road Dogg, let me let you in on a little secret. Starting tonight, things will be a hell of a lot different. Starting tonight, NO ONE and NOTHING will stop me, because my time - MY time - *MY* TIME IS NOW - PROVE ME WRONG!" Obviously, nothing is really different now, but do you think we'd hear anyone say something along these lines today? Sure we get the same "I'm the best real wrestler" talk, but I seriously doubt straight up saying that talent isn't needed to be successful would go over well. Anyone else have any thoughts on this strangely foreshadowing piece of microphone work?
claydude14 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Posted November 12, 2003 I'd mark out if something like that happened today.
Guest Choken One Posted November 12, 2003 Report Posted November 12, 2003 Jericho gets away with Subtle Shots at HHH and the hypocraisies all the time.
Guest ligerbomb03 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Posted November 12, 2003 I have a new favourite Benoit quote. Thanks for that.
iliketurtles Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 3 Years makes a BIG difference, my friends. Little did we know his exact words 3 years ago is the actual case these days.
Guest Choken One Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 Back in 2000, HHH could actually work. So what was Benoit talking about? Was he looking into the future or what?
Guest ligerbomb03 Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 So what was Benoit talking about? Was he looking into the future or what? I guess he sat down with his crystal ball earlier in the day
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 That was the kick-off to the Radicals Redux Angle that went No-Where, wasn't it?
Guest Choken One Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 Speaking of the Radicals.. Remember when everyone expected Benoit and SATURN to be the breakout stars while Eddy and Melenko were considered luggage? Yeah, Funny how that whole Saturn thing worked out.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 The WWE EXPECTED Saturn to be the breakout star. However, politics demanded that they all lose their first PPV match, the majority of them lose the second, they win at their third , and then they fight each other. No wonder they went no-where
Guest Choken One Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 Melenko was screwed the SECOND Vince McMahon saw him. Vince: I can't wait to meet these guys. benoit, Guerrero, Saturn and Melenko. 4 of the top free agents all at once. I'm a god damn genius. *Team Radicals show up* Vince: Benoit has a ripped look, Eddy got that whole crazy hair thing, Saturn, Mah god has THE LOOK. Whose that guy next them? Stooge: Um That's Dean Melenko. World Reknowned Wrestler. Vince: Right. Job them.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 But he won their first title, had a BITCH-ASS match against Scotty (of all people) at Backlash, and then started the ladies man shit, which I dug....... I don't get it
Guest Choken One Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 Ummm...Winning the Lightweight title in WWE isn't saying much. His having a "BITCH-ASS" match with Scotty doesn't mean others weren't having "BITCH ASS" matches either... They gave Melenko the Ladies Man gimmick because they didn't think he was marketable on his own... Jericho proved that wrong in 1998.
Jack_Bauer Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 But he won their first title, had a BITCH-ASS match against Scotty (of all people) at Backlash, and then started the ladies man shit, which I dug....... I don't get it The Malenko v Scotty match has been a personal fave of mines for a LONG time.
Guest TonyJaymzV1 Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 I also dug the whole ladies man Gimmick, until it led to the LIta angle. THey should have let Dean-O start grooming the LHW/CW division starting back then with him, scotty, essa, etc. and now it'd be at WCW 98' levels. Man, I loved Malenko...he stood out amongst all the other flyers.
Jack_Bauer Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 I apologize for not showing Dave's post in full in my quote, as he was completely right.
Art Sandusky Posted November 13, 2003 Author Report Posted November 13, 2003 So what was Benoit talking about? Was he looking into the future or what? Maybe he really did see it all coming. The seeds were certainly being sewn around that period, since just a month earlier the HHH/Angle feud was aborted.
Adam Posted November 13, 2003 Report Posted November 13, 2003 I loved that promo by Benoit. Deviant has it in his sig, or something similar.
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