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[C Dubya 04 0]

Who do y'all think should win Freshman of the Year? The top candidates I can think of are Leon Powe (Cal), Drew Lavender (Oklahoma), Charlie Villaneuva (UConn), Luol Deng (Duke), Mustafa Shakur (Arizona) and Kris Humphries (Minnesota).

I'd go with Deng or Chris Paul from Wake. Kid's an amazing player and carried them to a big win over the Dukies. He also had a monster game against Cincinatti and plays one of the toughest positions (PG) for a young player to handle.

[Damaramu 0]

I keep hearing that Lavender has it in the bag.....why I don't know.

[Damaramu 0]

Let's hope that OSU loss tones down the hype for them a bit. Their fans are getting obnoxious with all this Eddie Sutton love crap. The man still ran UK into the ground, regardless of what he has done since.

 

I also gotta comment on the mid major thing. Teams like Memphis and St. Joes aren't mid majors. CUSA is a pretty big time conference. When you talk about getting 5 or 6 teams into the dance, that's a major conf. (don't forget DePaul might get in). The A 10 is a decent league most of the time, it's just that all of that league's perennial contenders (UMass, Temple, Xavier) are all having crappy years.

 

I define mid major by this: Can a team from that conference possibly get a top seed? St. Joes will be a 1 this year, but I don't think Gonzaga will be as high as some think. Recall that they were about 28-3 two years ago and got a 6 despite being ranked #6.

Well I don't think the hype will really die down. Mainly because Mizzou was playing a great game at home and had them down by 13 at one point.

 

Believe me OSU fans will not let anything go. They're worse than OU fans! I can't count the number of times that I heard them call in after OSU beat OU at football those 2 years and scream about how OSU rules and will always be the better school. Then OU HUMILIATES OSU this season and not a peep about it from the OU fanbase while the OSU fanbase whines about it.

[Guest Redhawk]

I looked at a 2004 Mock Draft on www.nbadraft.net, and they've got the following guys as first-rounders:

 

Emeka Okafor #2 to Chicago.

 

Luol Deng #4 to the Bobcats.

 

Andre Iguodala #7 to the 76ers.

 

Jameer Nelson #8 to Boston.

 

Ben Gordon #9 to the Cavs.

 

Kris Humphries #14 to Portland.

 

Devin Harris #15 to Miami.

 

Josh Childress #16 to Toronto.

 

Raymond Felton #17 to the Knicks.

 

Ryan Gomes #18 to Milwaukee.

 

Hakim Warrick #20 to Denver.

 

Kirk Snyder (Nevada) #23 to Memphis.

 

Luke Jackson #24 to the Nets.

 

Rafael Araujo #25 to Dallas.

 

In the second round, guys like Blake Stepp, Darius Rice, Romain Sato, Christian Drejer, Andre Emmett, Chris Duhon and Rickey Paulding were mentioned.

[Gert T 0]

Will the 4-6th place teams from the ACC, Big 12, C-USA & Big Ten please try to differentiate themselves from the rest of the field.

 

I gotta feeling that Conference USA sends six now after that big win by DePaul at Louisville.

 

And I believe before conference tournaments Louisville, Texas Tech & North Carolina "locks" last week will lose out now.

 

Also Xavier is quietly making a run back into the NCAA tournament so hopefully the A-10 gets three in.

[Bored 0]

Wow Louisville lost again!? They are getting awfully close to putting themselves on the bubble which is shocking considering they were a legit Top 5 team just a month ago.

[Vern Gagne 0]

In the second round, guys like Blake Stepp, Darius Rice, Romain Sato, Christian Drejer, Andre Emmett, Chris Duhon and Rickey Paulding were mentioned.

Remember guys like Micheal Redd, Carlos Boozer, Manu Ganobili, Malik Rose, Rashard Lewis, and Nick Van Exel (10-11 years ago) and are having nice careers.

[Damaramu 0]

Well so much for OU in the tournament.

I guess they still have an outside shot. I heard that if they went 8-8 and won maybe 2 Big XII tournament games they'd get picked over a team like Colorado and Missouri who have better records but OU has a past history(9 years in a row in the tournament) so they'll look at that to.

I personally think that's wrong. If they go 8-8 and someone like Missouri goes 9-7 or whatever then they should get in....not OU. Who cares what they did in the past? They aren't doing anything right now.

[CanadianChris 0]

Well so much for OU in the tournament.

I guess they still have an outside shot. I heard that if they went 8-8 and won maybe 2 Big XII tournament games they'd get picked over a team like Colorado and Missouri who have better records but OU has a past history(9 years in a row in the tournament) so they'll look at that to.

I personally think that's wrong. If they go 8-8 and someone like Missouri goes 9-7 or whatever then they should get in....not OU. Who cares what they did in the past? They aren't doing anything right now.

Whoever said that is dead wrong. Past history means jack shit to the committee. Hell, Syracuse is on the bubble, and they're the defending champs.

[Damaramu 0]

Well so much for OU in the tournament.

I guess they still have an outside shot. I heard that if they went 8-8 and won maybe 2 Big XII tournament games they'd get picked over a team like Colorado and Missouri who have better records but OU has a past history(9 years in a row in the tournament) so they'll look at that to.

I personally think that's wrong. If they go 8-8 and someone like Missouri goes 9-7 or whatever then they should get in....not OU. Who cares what they did in the past? They aren't doing anything right now.

Whoever said that is dead wrong. Past history means jack shit to the committee. Hell, Syracuse is on the bubble, and they're the defending champs.

Good.......I don't think they should be in if they don't have the record.

[Guest Jimbo]

Who do y'all think should win Freshman of the Year? The top candidates I can think of are Leon Powe (Cal), Drew Lavender (Oklahoma), Charlie Villaneuva (UConn), Luol Deng (Duke), Mustafa Shakur (Arizona) and Kris Humphries (Minnesota).

 

Chris Paul, definitely.

 

Whether he will actually recieve such an award is debateable, but hte fact is, he has led Wake Forest very well through the toughest league in the country. Deng has been an integral part of Duke, but he has had no wher enear hte impact of Paul.

 

Also, I saw that mock draft had Raymond Fleton at #17 going to the Knicks...that disturbs me greatly. That young man has so much potential, but is NOT ready for the NB by any stretch of hte imagination. STAY IN SCHOOL MAN!

[Guest Redhawk]

I would probably vote for Chris Paul, and I have no idea why I forgot to put him on that list. But last night I saw Leon Powe rip Oregon for 20 pts and 11 rebs, and he leads the Pac-10 in double doubles. He'd be a close second.

 

Just wondering, do they have like a national JC Transfer of the Year award? If so, who would win it?

 

And speaking of transfers, whatever happened to Robert Whaley anyway? I know he was supposed to be a big impact player at Cincinnati, and last week he left the team.

[Gert T 0]

I think he and Huggs didn't see eye-to-eye, and rumors around here were saying his attitude was hurting on the court and in the locker room, but I'm not UC's Lawrence Frank.

[Guest Jimbo]

27-27 is the score at the half of the St. Joseph's/Rhodie Island U. game.St/ Joe's looks good, but RIU is playing very well and really taking it to 'em. Should be an interesting second half...we could have upset city, ba-bay!

 

Maryland/Wake Forest has just started with Wake up early....

 

I was just watching ESPn and this fact truly amazed me:

 

Despite leading underachieving UVA teams for 5 years, Pete Gillen's job is quite safe considering he has a $6 MILLION BUY OUT PACKAGE.

 

That's ridiculous.

 

*prays Esherick's is only a few dollars as that is how much he's worth*

 

btw, Tuesday night's Pitt game was embarrassing for two reasons: like the Syracuse game, there were more Pitt fans than Hoya people and we G'Town fans were hoping and begging for Pitt to come back and spank the Hoyas in the second half. Had G'town somehow won, Esherick would definitely be back next year because he can obviously carry teams to defeats over superior teams. *rolls eyes* Yeah, that's right, we were cheering Pitt on because we hate Shiterick that much...just goes to show how pathetic that program and athletic department is.

[Guest Jimbo]

Wow, awesome game, Delonte West hit a 3 with like 20 seconds left to put St. Joe's ahead and win the game. I really thought they were gonna be beaten, but seemingly everytime URI took the lead, somebody on St. Joe's would drop in a 3 like they were the only people in the gym. Carrol, West, Barley, Nelson, always somebody new...

 

In other news, Maryland is getting SPANKED~!

[Guest Jimbo]

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- Andre Barrett scored 25 points in his final home game and Seton Hall held Georgetown to three field goals and 14 points in the first half in posting a 75-48 victory on Saturday night.

 

ESPN.com

 

For fuck's sake, 3 field goals in the first half!? 3!?!

 

*stabs self with a fork*

[Vern Gagne 0]

Kris Humphries is not freshmen of the year. He doesn't defend, he can't pass the ball, he has way too many games where he's around 30% shooting. The double-double average looks nice but that's about it with him.

[Vern Gagne 0]

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- Andre Barrett scored 25 points in his final home game and Seton Hall held Georgetown to three field goals and 14 points in the first half in posting a 75-48 victory on Saturday night.

 

ESPN.com

 

For fuck's sake, 3 field goals in the first half!? 3!?!

 

*stabs self with a fork*

How long has Andre Barrett been at SH? 8 years.

[Guest Jimbo]

You remember when he came in with Eddie Somethingoranother and another good freshman gaurd and they were supposed to be the best of the Big East for years to come? They were like 8th in the nation at one point I believe.

 

They came here to play G'town and got the ever loving piss knocked out of them, then Eddie I'llremembereventually punched ty Shine and The wheels began to fall off.

[Guest Redhawk]

You remember when he came in with Eddie Somethingoranother and another good freshman gaurd and they were supposed to be the best of the Big East for years to come? They were like 8th in the nation at one point I believe.

 

They came here to play G'town and got the ever loving piss knocked out of them, then Eddie I'llremembereventually punched ty Shine and The wheels began to fall off.

That would be the trio of Eddie Griffin, Andre Barrett and Marcus Toney-El, I believe. But forget them: there was this trio at St. John's a few years ago that I cannot remember for the life of me. It was Zendon Hamilton, a point guard and a wing guy. I wanna say one of them was Felipe Lopez, but maybe not. Anyway, they were supposed to be hot shit, like the next Greg Anthony/Stacey Augmon/Larry Johnson combo.

 

My God, the Hoyas are shitty this year. Again, it reminds me of the article earlier this year where Esherick said something like, "I still think we're a good shooting team," after G'Town had shot 30 pct for the 3rd or 4th game straight. "If it's like this after 10 games, then maybe I was wrong." That was paraphrasing it, but it was the same idea.

 

And think, who will be on the team next year? I haven't heard of any big recruits coming in? And Riley and Freeman are seniors, right? Is Bowman a senior?

[Vern Gagne 0]

Lopez was the top high school player about 11-12 years old. Never fully lived up to the hype. Had a nice NBA career, not really sure where he is know.

[Guest Jimbo]

You remember when he came in with Eddie Somethingoranother and another good freshman gaurd and they were supposed to be the best of the Big East for years to come? They were like 8th in the nation at one point I believe.

 

They came here to play G'town and got the ever loving piss knocked out of them, then Eddie I'llremembereventually punched ty Shine and The wheels began to fall off.

That would be the trio of Eddie Griffin, Andre Barrett and Marcus Toney-El, I believe. But forget them: there was this trio at St. John's a few years ago that I cannot remember for the life of me. It was Zendon Hamilton, a point guard and a wing guy. I wanna say one of them was Felipe Lopez, but maybe not. Anyway, they were supposed to be hot shit, like the next Greg Anthony/Stacey Augmon/Larry Johnson combo.

 

My God, the Hoyas are shitty this year. Again, it reminds me of the article earlier this year where Esherick said something like, "I still think we're a good shooting team," after G'Town had shot 30 pct for the 3rd or 4th game straight. "If it's like this after 10 games, then maybe I was wrong." That was paraphrasing it, but it was the same idea.

 

And think, who will be on the team next year? I haven't heard of any big recruits coming in? And Riley and Freeman are seniors, right? Is Bowman a senior?

No, I think it was only Zendon Hamilton and Lopez...or at least if there was another guy, he was crap as he never made much of an impact.

 

Tony-El hasn't done much either, he had his best season this year, scoring 7.1 ppg :-/

 

Of course, G'town has had their fair share of busts-- Anthony Perry was one of the top recruits in all of college basketball and he stunk it up. Famed jump shooter? I think not, he was like 22 or something percent for his career, rid the pine for most of his time, and never really got it going. Some might attribute this to being suspened for his freshman year, but even as a senior he just never seemed into it.

 

Next year? Well, Bowman is only a sophmore, and assuming he works on the mental game and his shot selection, he could be very good. Too many times this season though he'd drive through 4 people to get the basket, never thinking to pass.

 

Amadou Kilkenny-Diaw will inevitably be our ceneter next year, which is even worse than Freeeman. He can do...nothing.

 

Darrell Owens will still be around, unless he's smart enough to tell Esherick and the program to fuck off. He'll be captain I suppose.

 

Cook will be a junior, and unfortunately, probably will still have no idea what he's doing, untill the end of the game where we're down by 15 and he becomes superman and starts making shots to get the score respectable.

 

Causey will be a soph-- this guy can make some sick passes--g'town has never had someone like him. If only he'd work on his jumper, he could be dangerous as hell.

 

Reed, the funny Czech guy, and Roy Hibbert Jr, a 7'2 local guy comign from G'Town Prep who many people say is very good, but can't move at all, will probably be coming off the bench.

 

Summary: they will be worse than this year, but hopefully, if there is a god, Esherick will be fired, and they will grow as a team and improve.

[LooseCannon25 0]

You remember when he came in with Eddie Somethingoranother and another good freshman gaurd and they were supposed to be the best of the Big East for years to come? They were like 8th in the nation at one point I believe.

 

They came here to play G'town and got the ever loving piss knocked out of them, then Eddie I'llremembereventually punched ty Shine and The wheels began to fall off.

That would be the trio of Eddie Griffin, Andre Barrett and Marcus Toney-El, I believe. But forget them: there was this trio at St. John's a few years ago that I cannot remember for the life of me. It was Zendon Hamilton, a point guard and a wing guy. I wanna say one of them was Felipe Lopez, but maybe not. Anyway, they were supposed to be hot shit, like the next Greg Anthony/Stacey Augmon/Larry Johnson combo.

 

My God, the Hoyas are shitty this year. Again, it reminds me of the article earlier this year where Esherick said something like, "I still think we're a good shooting team," after G'Town had shot 30 pct for the 3rd or 4th game straight. "If it's like this after 10 games, then maybe I was wrong." That was paraphrasing it, but it was the same idea.

 

And think, who will be on the team next year? I haven't heard of any big recruits coming in? And Riley and Freeman are seniors, right? Is Bowman a senior?

No, I think it was only Zendon Hamilton and Lopez...or at least if there was another guy, he was crap as he never made much of an impact.

 

Tony-El hasn't done much either, he had his best season this year, scoring 7.1 ppg :-/

 

Of course, G'town has had their fair share of busts-- Anthony Perry was one of the top recruits in all of college basketball and he stunk it up. Famed jump shooter? I think not, he was like 22 or something percent for his career, rid the pine for most of his time, and never really got it going. Some might attribute this to being suspened for his freshman year, but even as a senior he just never seemed into it.

 

Next year? Well, Bowman is only a sophmore, and assuming he works on the mental game and his shot selection, he could be very good. Too many times this season though he'd drive through 4 people to get the basket, never thinking to pass.

 

Amadou Kilkenny-Diaw will inevitably be our ceneter next year, which is even worse than Freeeman. He can do...nothing.

 

Darrell Owens will still be around, unless he's smart enough to tell Esherick and the program to fuck off. He'll be captain I suppose.

 

Cook will be a junior, and unfortunately, probably will still have no idea what he's doing, untill the end of the game where we're down by 15 and he becomes superman and starts making shots to get the score respectable.

 

Causey will be a soph-- this guy can make some sick passes--g'town has never had someone like him. If only he'd work on his jumper, he could be dangerous as hell.

 

Reed, the funny Czech guy, and Roy Hibbert Jr, a 7'2 local guy comign from G'Town Prep who many people say is very good, but can't move at all, will probably be coming off the bench.

 

Summary: they will be worse than this year, but hopefully, if there is a god, Esherick will be fired, and they will grow as a team and improve.

Jesus..........please get rid of Craig, he obviously has this team in the shitter, I can honestly say G'Town is the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the Big East. Even if they suck next year or for 2 more years, so be it, a new guy will recruit better, and have better in game coaching....because Esherick is the worst possible choice.

 

Every fuckin year it's the same shit....start 9-0 or 8-1 beating these little cupcakes, and when it comes time for conference play forget it.

 

 

By the way, I got another bust from G'Town..... Victor Page, the GREAT SG they recruited....yeah, I was all excited about this guy because we had Iverson and supposedly a sniper to go along with him in the backcourt. But the guy and his tremendous overbite was a huge dissapointment. It's good to see Sweetney coming around with the Knicks and getting some playing time though.

[Guest Jimbo]

Nah, Page was good, lead the Big East in scoring, etc., and pushed us to the NCAA tourney and to the Big East tourney title game, but he's a total jackass for leaving as a Sophmore.

 

what was their line up that year? Iverson, Don Reid, Othella Harrington, Jerome Williams, Jahidi White on the bench and Page? Had Page stayed longer, I'm sure he would have joined the others in the NBA.

[Guest Jimbo]

Syracuse has just deafeated Pitt in a terrific, but very low-scoring overtime game in Pittsburg, 49-46. Pittt had a lot of opportunities to win the game in the end, but just couldn't get it done as their free-throw shooting is awful.

[Damaramu 0]

What we all knew was going to happen has happened. OU's tournament hopes sunk today in Kansas.

*stands aside while saluting the sinking Sooner ship*

[Guest Redhawk]

Victor Page was fine at G'Town (well, except for his fullback mentality when it came to shot selection), but he was a bust as a pro. He's probably kicking around the ABAs and CBAs right now. I do remember Kenny Brunner, though. Where did he go?

[Guest Redhawk]

No, I think it was only Zendon Hamilton and Lopez...or at least if there was another guy, he was crap as he never made much of an impact.

Just figured it out: The heralded trio was Zendon Hamilton (center), Felipe Lopez (SG) and Tarik Turner (PG). They all came in as freshman in the 1994-95 season and played four years together. Turner never averaged more than 5 ppg. Lavor Postell was also playing for SJU at the time, and Ron Artest was a freshman in their senior year.

 

Man, remember when St. John's, Georgetown and Villanova all had talent?

[Guest Jimbo]

Victor Page was fine at G'Town (well, except for his fullback mentality when it came to shot selection), but he was a bust as a pro. He's probably kicking around the ABAs and CBAs right now. I do remember Kenny Brunner, though. Where did he go?

Brunner as you may recall, transfered to Fresno St., wher he and a teamate tried to hold up a bank with a machete!

 

He's probably dead or in jail....

 

I don't think Page is playing basketball anymore. But, I'm not sure if you heard this, in November, he got caught in the middle of some shootout at like 3 AM in SE DC (a.k.a. the LAST place you want to be). He ended up geting shot or hit in the eye with something. Not sure what it was all about or if he was just a bystander, but it didn't sound too good...

 

And Vilanova hasn't had talent since Tim Thomas left..like 8 years ago, lol.

[cabbageboy 0]

Well, U of L finally got off the canvas the other day and beat Memphis. Thank God the losing streak is over. Now we get to go job to St. Louis and Marquette on the road to finish the season. You know what's truly sad about U of L? They are the best team in CUSA--and are 6th in the standings behind Memphis, Cincy, Charlotte, UAB, and DePaul.

 

There are a lot of people that think Pitt is a Final 4 team this year, but there were people who said that last year. I'm sorry but when you score 46 points in an OT game and cannot hit FTs down the stretch, you are not a Final 4 caliber team.

 

Don't look now but UK is 21-4. It's funny how no one is really talking about them this year (that's what two losses to Georgia will do), but I think they are a very good candidate for the Final 4. Right now UK's late game coaching and execution are second to none.