EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 You know the deal. Enjoy TNA NEWZ: - Jeff Jarrett and Dutch Mantel are writing the shows now. Jimmy Hart is now sitting in on the creative meetings, which also include Glenn Gilberti, Scott D'Amore, and Dixie Carter. Jeff has final say over everything, and Dutch is clearly second in command. Disco is now just a contributor after having written a lot of the shows with Russo. Russo is said to be upset over his demotion from the creative team, but he keeps in contact with Dixie Carter. Some people say Russo is the Carters' fallback plan, just in case, but other say Jeff kept him on the payroll because of their friendship. The official reason for Russo being sent home was that Hogan wouldn't work with the company if Russo had anything to do with creative, but Russo is telling people that he thinks he would have been sent home anyway because he and Jeff were butting heads a lot. Russo says, and a lot of wrestlers are agreeing, that Dutch is just a yes-man for Jeff and doesn't challenge him on anything. He also thinks the shows have noticeably dropped in quality since he stopped writing. - Jimmy Hart is fitting in okay. The talk is that his project with Roy Jones' promoter, which is expected to tie in with TNA if it gets off the ground, will be focused on more now that Roy's latest fight is over. - They'll be doing a live show the day before Thanksgiving, which the wrestlers aren't thrilled about. The shows prior to Christmas and New Years will be taped. - Word coming out of the creative meetings is that Dutch said something like that David Young is worth more money to the company than Simon, Swinger, Chris Daniels, and Jerry Lynn. Naturally people assumed he was down on those 4, but others say Dutch is just high on David Young. Either way, wrestlers are laughing at the quote, since David Young is not a money player and is not more important than those guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tpww7 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 - Word coming out of the creative meetings is that Dutch said something like that David Young is worth more money to the company than Simon, Swinger, Chris Daniels, and Jerry Lynn. Naturally people assumed he was down on those 4, but others say Dutch is just high on David Young. Either way, wrestlers are laughing at the quote, since David Young is not a money player and is not more important than those guys. There's that good TNA mentality for ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Right, I've lost faith in Dutch Mantel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 I do think that's pretty crazy. It would probably me a good idea to throw Young in with AJ in a singles match though as they have quite the history of good matches throughout the South. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted November 19, 2003 - Word coming out of the creative meetings is that Dutch said something like that David Young is worth more money to the company than Simon, Swinger, Chris Daniels, and Jerry Lynn. Naturally people assumed he was down on those 4, but others say Dutch is just high on David Young. Either way, wrestlers are laughing at the quote, since David Young is not a money player and is not more important than those guys. Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Dutch Mantel is a fucking retard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Well, another name to add to my "Fuck You" list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted November 19, 2003 I'm reading that quote differently than everyone else. See, the way I see it, is that Dutch is thinking that David Young is an "unknown" so NWA:TNA could book him like he was theirs. Whereas Jerry Lynn is from ECW, Christopher Daniels is above 30 years old and been well known on the Indies for years, etc. If that's the case, it makes more sense, but I still don't really agree with him. LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Report post Posted November 19, 2003 Yes Folks, Dutch Mantell really will book this company into the #1 Position in the States. VKM can therefore sweat all night knowing that David Young is the future of the industry, and bah gawd, TNA has him. Fucking Retards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JacK Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Daniels? They mean Daniels Daniels? The same Daniels that's better than David Young. I still think Young's good, but, it's like; Daniels! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? Um, virtually everything? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? The guys who run it have a natural bias arising from their previous (and current) history with various wrestling companies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? The guys who run it have a natural bias arising from their previous (and current) history with various wrestling companies. That's why all they ever do is trash TNA, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? Um, virtually everything? -=Mike Solid answer there, insightful as always. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? The guys who run it have a natural bias arising from their previous (and current) history with various wrestling companies. That's why all they ever do is trash TNA, right? Could you give some examples of this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? The guys who run it have a natural bias arising from their previous (and current) history with various wrestling companies. That's why all they ever do is trash TNA, right? Could you give some examples of this ? Have you ever listened to the no name radio show, or pro wrestling insider that airs on Wednesday nights? Dave Scherer and Buck Woodward say nothing but negative things about TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? Um, virtually everything? -=Mike Solid answer there, insightful as always. If you haven't paid attention to them over the years, you'll never get it. Their problems are widely known and have been discussed for years. They are the Torch with MORE obvious problems. Their biases are about as obvious as could be. They fabricate stories left and right. Their writing is piss-poor. If you honestly think that 1wrestling is a good news site, then you wouldn't know bias if it walked up and bit you on the ass. Insightful enough for you? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? Um, virtually everything? -=Mike Solid answer there, insightful as always. If you haven't paid attention to them over the years, you'll never get it. Their problems are widely known and have been discussed for years. They are the Torch with MORE obvious problems. Their biases are about as obvious as could be. They fabricate stories left and right. Their writing is piss-poor. If you honestly think that 1wrestling is a good news site, then you wouldn't know bias if it walked up and bit you on the ass. Insightful enough for you? -=Mike I've paid attention to that site on a daily basis since its inception. I'll say this: Bob Ryder sucks. He is a spitefull bitter man whose hate of the WWE comes through everything he does. With that being said...... What have they fabricated? Dave Scherer and Buck are almost always right on the money with their stories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2003 Here's some minor Torch news. MORE LUGER: He sucked. TNA wrestlers are getting mad. Someone like Sting they at least tolerated when he came straight into main events, cause it was Sting. But now Sting hasn't put anyone ever, he's getting them to bring in Lex, Lex isn't putting anyone over, and Lex is getting put right in the main events over all the guys who work there regularly. Kid Kash was one of the people left off last week's show, and he was making a big stink about TNA management not using/paying the regulars so that they could afford Sting and Luger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Report post Posted November 23, 2003 Calm down there lads, the Torch has the honour of being the only source less reliable than 1wrestling. What is unreliable about 1wrestling? BRET HART TO LEAD INVASION!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 23, 2003 The Torch also said Hogan was lying about being in talks with NWA TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Report post Posted November 23, 2003 Surely 1Bob would be REALLY pro TNA, considering Bob, you know....works for TNA and that. I'm not defending them or anything, since my previous quote summed up everything thats wrong with the site, but it just strikes me as odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jesseb Report post Posted November 26, 2003 It's funny how you say the Torch is unreliable, when they were the first to report the story of how the buried alive match would end and how Undertaker will return to his deadman gimmick after being buried by Kane. They also said Brock would wrestle Goldberg well before anybody else even mentioned that idea. Then they reported that Mick Foley was in talks to wrestle HHH, just days before Foley said it himself in a newspaper interview. They are reporting many stories well ahead of anyone else right now. It's also funny how you blame the Torch for things they didn't say, like that Hogan was a liar about working for TNA. They did not say that, the recaps your reading by Seadawg said it because he was making a joke. Of course, you couldn't know that since his stuff was being stolen without credit, so it is nto your fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
