WWE Needs a Token Evil Russian gimmick

[Toxxic 0]

Yeah, let's get more stereotypes! After all Regal's been indefinitely sidelined, so you can't have someone demonstrating how us Brits are all upper-class ponces who wave, sneer at commoners and even pretend to know something about the Duchess of Queensbury. I'm sure American wrestling is short one stereotype, so why not go with the Russians.

 

Oh no, sorry, Regal's spot was filled to overflowing with La Resistance wasn't it? They can get heat by being French, but since these were the same live crowds that cheered Austin stunning Stacy, I'm actually with the (fake) French on this one. And I'm British - I actually have a REASON to dislike the French.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

I think what is needed is an Arabic or Middle Eastern heel, I'm sure he could draw real heat from the crowd, but are there any good/decent wrestlers that are or can at least pass for Arabic?

Tonight! Bradshaw vs. Al Kay-Duh! If Bradshaw loses he MUST kiss a Muslim prayer rug! The stakes have never been higher bah gawd!

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Your right, wrestling characters are all stereotypes. Chris Benoit is a stereotypical Canadian, Rey Mysterio is a stereotypical Latino, and Ultimate Dragon is a stereotypical fire-breathing dragon.

 

PS. Its ONLY FUCKING WRESTLING, they play characters the same as movie stars. Is Anthony Hopkins a stereotypical cannibal? Ahnold a sterotypical cyborg from the future?

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Man, name a war France has won....I rest my case.

You're forgetting Napolean.

I've heard some real pissy people discount that because Napoleon eventually lost it all anyway.

They DID lose. Its a fact. They won a battle, but they never won the war. Just ask the 85% of his army that did not make it home.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

They won the Hundred Years War back in the 15th Century, but only by the skin of their teeth.

[Guest JMA]

In any case, Evil Foreigner gimmicks are outdated and just plain offensive in today's world.

[Downhome 0]

I endorse Banky's idea. Even better than Volkoff was Nikita Koloff, because he had some great matches, and his singlet said CCCP, which is USSR in the Cyrillic alphabet. Now that's attention to detail.

 

I guess what you could do for 2004 in terms of Evil Russians is to just have a character of a Russian amateur wrestling champion who, unhappy with the lack of economic success after the hammer and sickle was lowered from the flagpole, and yearning for athleticism to be celebrated by the regime the way it was during the Cold War, becomes like a neo-Soviet guy, like a Russian Kurt Angle, with Prokofiev's old anthem and everything. I'd like it.

I have a guy called Ivan Stalinov on my No Mercy cartridge.

This is a fucking great idea.

[Downhome 0]

In any case, Evil Foreigner gimmicks are outdated and just plain offensive in today's world.

Today's world is becoming a bunch of pussys.

[AndrewTS 0]

Well, the French are.

 

I mean really, what legitimate purpose do they serve on earth?

 

They're evil in their space occupying ways and general uselessness.

Oh, get off it.

 

OMG, IT'S WRONG TO BE FRENCH!!!1111

As commanded by Ironhead Haynes.

[AndrewTS 0]

I endorse Banky's idea. Even better than Volkoff was Nikita Koloff, because he had some great matches, and his singlet said CCCP, which is USSR in the Cyrillic alphabet. Now that's attention to detail.

 

I guess what you could do for 2004 in terms of Evil Russians is to just have a character of a Russian amateur wrestling champion who, unhappy with the lack of economic success after the hammer and sickle was lowered from the flagpole, and yearning for athleticism to be celebrated by the regime the way it was during the Cold War, becomes like a neo-Soviet guy, like a Russian Kurt Angle, with Prokofiev's old anthem and everything. I'd like it.

I have a guy called Ivan Stalinov on my No Mercy cartridge.

This is a fucking great idea.

So, basically they make a real-life Zangief?

[Downhome 0]

Hell yeah.

[AndrewTS 0]

I think what is needed is an Arabic or Middle Eastern heel, I'm sure he could draw real heat from the crowd, but are there any good/decent wrestlers that are or can at least pass for Arabic?

Tonight! Bradshaw vs. Al Kay-Duh! If Bradshaw loses he MUST kiss a Muslim prayer rug! The stakes have never been higher bah gawd!

 

As for good/decent wrestlers...well, Tiger Ali...wait, he really sucked.

 

I guess you'd have to rely on Vince's favorite ethnic group that can pass for any other minority--the Samoans!

 

Hell yeah.

 

But who? I'm sure there's an OVW guy that can pass for Russian. Find a big guy who can do the amateur stuff (like Brock can), teach him some sambo, have him grow out the body hair, voila!

[Downhome 0]

Couldn't it just be a "black" guy? Just change Booker's last name to Booker Muhammad or something, and there you go.

 

I'm being quite serious. Isn't that religion quite popular with Africian Americans more than any other race other than those from the Middle East?

[Downhome 0]

But who? I'm sure there's an OVW guy that can pass for Russian. Find a big guy who can do the amateur stuff (like Brock can), teach him some sambo, have him grow out the body hair, voila!

We could just raid their next Olympic Wrestling team.

[Guest JMA]

Today's world is becoming a bunch of pussys.

Would you feel the same way if there was an Evil American gimmick?

[Guest JMA]

Well, the French are.

 

I mean really, what legitimate purpose do they serve on earth?

 

They're evil in their space occupying ways and general uselessness.

Oh, get off it.

 

OMG, IT'S WRONG TO BE FRENCH!!!1111

As commanded by Ironhead Haynes.

Oddly enough, I'm a big MWC fan.

[AndrewTS 0]

Couldn't it just be a "black" guy? Just change Booker's last name to Booker Muhammad or something, and there you go.

 

I'm being quite serious. Isn't that religion quite popular with Africian Americans more than any other race other than those from the Middle East?

You mean like, uh, Faarooq?

 

Among African Americans yeah, but we're assuming WWE wants a "foreigner."

 

We could just raid their next Olympic Wrestling team.

 

It would take a good while to mold an Olympic wrestler into a decent WWE-style performer. Kurt and Brock managed to do it, but other than pulling off suplexes and doing some of the mat stuff, "pro" wrestling is entirely different from "legit." Besides, a lot of the "legit" wrestlers frown on "professional" wrestling, so you might encounter a lot of reluctance. It would be far easier to use teach an OVW guy who has done amateur.

[Guest Askewniverse]

Would you feel the same way if there was an Evil American gimmick?

How exactly would an evil American gimmick play out?

 

To me, an evil American just sounds like your average heel. For example, take Scott Steiner. He's a heel, and he's an American. Heels are evil, which makes him an evil American.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Would you feel the same way if there was an Evil American gimmick?

How exactly would an evil American gimmick play out?

See the man in your signature picture. The one in the middle.

[Downhome 0]

Today's world is becoming a bunch of pussys.

Would you feel the same way if there was an Evil American gimmick?

What do you mean? Like if in say, Stampede or AJPW they had an evil American gimmick?

 

Yes, that would kick all sorts of ass, I'd love it.

 

People need to just fucking lighten up in todays world, or it'll end up being one big pussy crotch.

[Vyce 0]

Today's world is becoming a bunch of pussys.

Would you feel the same way if there was an Evil American gimmick?

What do you mean? Like if in say, Stampede or AJPW they had an evil American gimmick?

 

Yes, that would kick all sorts of ass, I'd love it.

 

I'd love it too.

 

I'd mark for the Evil American.

 

He should come out to the ring to Bowie's "I'm Afraid of Americans."

 

People need to just fucking lighten up in todays world, or it'll  end up being one big pussy crotch.

 

Tell me about it.

 

Some people need to change their names to Sandy Vag.

[Guest JMA]

I'd love it too.

 

I'd mark for the Evil American.

 

He should come out to the ring to Bowie's "I'm Afraid of Americans."

The question is, how would Americans react to the gimmick IN America? Kurt Angle was probably the closest thing, but people hated him more because he was obnoxious and holier than thou.

[Guest Danny Dubya v 2.0]

Chris Benoit is a stereotypical Canadian

And the farthest thing from it... aren't most Canadians lazy and pacifist?

[Downhome 0]

The question is, how would Americans react to the gimmick IN America?

I'd love it, I LOVED it when we've seen it before.

 

Some people nee to realize that, *gasp*, the characters in the ring aren't REAL, it's just that...characters.

 

Kurt Angle was probably the closest thing, but people hated him more because he was obnoxious and holier than thou.

 

Isn't THAT the entire idea behind an "Evil American" gimmick?

[Guest BDC]

A friend of mine ran a Russian gimmick in efedding for like three years. The communist throwback named Ivan Stanislav actually still revered communism but served Russia as a monster heel. It can still be done, it just has to be an older guy that would remember communism and could be physically dominant.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

 

... This is the one you want.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

He can be the unassuming SD janitor who ends up running in and taking out a big name face. They can make it up like he's a common man who's been pushed to madness by the disgusting sport known as wrestling, so he has trained himself to stop it.

 

OH IT'S GOIN' DOWN BABY!

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

A JANITOR! NO! He is brought in as a Russian Killer but everyone is confused by his mild-mannered behaviour... until they see him in the ring, where he coldly destroys everyone in his path.

 

The Janitor

[Guest JMA]

Kurt Angle was probably the closest thing, but people hated him more because he was obnoxious and holier than thou.

 

Isn't THAT the entire idea behind an "Evil American" gimmick?

I was thinking more along the lines of a guy like Pat Buchanan. Y'know, an isolationist who hates foreigners.

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

The Russian should be fat, drunk and jolly...........

 

 

The only heelish thing is that he's a commie from his childhood days, and the Russian Wrestling scene dried up when communism fell