Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 I thought of Bret/Towsend, but Heavy Devy isn't accomplished as Bret and their careers didn't have as many similarities...but Bret and Rush.... I'll stop myself now so Laz doesn't kill me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 I thought of another one that works.... LANCE STORM-> DEVIN TOWNSEND Also, both men have no hair Working within the confines of 80's wrestling and metal here Slayer -> Ted Dibiase If Metallica->Hogan and Megadeth->Savage, then this conclusion can be drawn. Typically seen as the #3 member in their respective category (WWF MErs; US thrash bands), but they were the ones preferred by the more "evil/heelish" fans. Queensryche -> Roddy Piper At a time when most words associated with each were essentially the same (metal lyrics were either about partying or mystic evil stuff; wrestling interviews were mostly generic "I'm gonna kick your ass!" promos), they brought forth more intelligent material to their respective places. They were true breaths of fresh air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Hence why I love Roddy Piper. It's just too bad Queensryche's music sucked a nut, because their lyrics WERE good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Here's a quickie I thought of while shoveling snow... The Dynamite Kid -> Chuck Schuldinger of Death Both were never truly appreciated at their peak, and both have definitely influenced their respective fields. Their current state is kind of depressing(crippled, dead to due cancer.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 And another... Shawn Michaels -> Danzig These guys both started out as part of a group (Rockers/Misfits) that have a cult like Internet following although the majority of mainstream fans really don't know about where they came from. After reaching stardom on their own, they never talk about their early days. Both are also known for having big egos as well. And that then means that... Marty Janetty -> Jerry Only Because both of them wound up bringing back to the group/team name that made them famous in the first place. And further... Al Snow -> Michael Graves Because both of them got a lot of negative responses for not being Michaels/Danzig, leaving their group and going it on their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2003 Here's a new one... The Hardy Boys -> At The Gates Both feature a set of close brothers and were well liked by their respective fans. Many fans also thought that they did not have to break up as soon as they did. It then gets extended by the close friend of the band Jensen, who played with the Björler Brothers of ATG, and his two bands... Matt Hardy -> The Haunted Both have a small but vocal fan base who are really[/]into them. They have strong old school tendencies, and show strong comparisons with their more established contemporaries (Jericho, Slayer). They also have a really strong work ethic (constantly working/touring/releasing books/new material, etc.), as well as recently undoing switches (Matt going from Raw, to SD, and back to Raw; Haunted's vocalist changing from Peter to Marco and back to Peter). Jeff Hardy->Witchery Although both can be really cool when they want to, sometimes the stuff they do just doesn't work. Neither really seems like it's dedicated (Jeff always asking for time off & "retiring";Witchery's lack of new material and touring), and sometime relies more on its image than its actual skill. Their singer had a thing for makeup for a while and we all know about Jeff's body paint fetish. When they want to, both can be really really cool. And a lot of wanna be goth fat girls seem to be into them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 7, 2003 Vampiro--> Coal Chamber At first glance, one might think, hmm, this Vampiro character looks all right, kind of creepy, simple yet solid..couple decent moves...then you run out of good things to say, and it's more like..man, didn't they just play that riff? They've used the same distortion the whole time...The last song started out like that...this guy can't sing..eh, that was kind of catchy, but now it's gone. It takes about that long, too. Although some folks instantly see they suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2003 Very nice. I was actually thinking about Vamp/CChamber but couldn't verbalize it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2003 Vampiro--> Coal Chamber Also, neither are very appealing to the eyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 I've always thought their last bassist Nadja was hot. Too bad she only lasted for one album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Rrrrrrrowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Still no Angela...or Christina...or **sigh** Fallon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 I know, but she's cool in her own way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Shocked no one did these two RVD ---> Snoop Dogg Jerry Lynn --->Chad Kroeger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neil-o-Mac 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Hmm...might have a crack at this...most of the good ones have been done though. The Maiden/Flair one is especially accurate, as Bruce Dickison works as a commercial airline pilot when he's not doing Maiden stuff, thereby creating the whole 'jet plane riding son of a gun' thing. Opeth = Eddie Guerrerro Both had a strong underground following for a good number of years before switching their 'place of work' (Opeth to Music For Nations and Eddie to WWF/E), and their recent work there gaining them a whole new level of fans (Eddie catching on with the latino demographic, Opeth with their last three albums). The only thing I can't really parallel very well is Eddie going off the rails and getting clean. The nearest thing to that is the problems Opeth had recording Damnation and Deliverance, or maybe Martin Lopez' recent nervous breakdown. What about Dream Theater? I was thinking Dynamite Kid, but I'm not sure if that'd be good enough...or maybe even Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Shocked no one did these two RVD ---> Snoop Dogg Jerry Lynn --->Chad Kroeger. Because we're talking METAL, fucky. But basing off of those... Rob Van Dam -> Six Feet Under Both are rather bland in their respective fields (RVD in spotfests, SFU in death metal), are rather "high" (pun intended) on marijuana usage, and are hated by a good deal of the fanbases for their fields (as mentioned above). However, there is something about them that draws casual fans and new fans to them, and they are a guilty pleasure to everybody (whether or not they'll admit it). Jerry Lynn -> Fear Factory While both were nearly revolutionary in their early work (Lynn doing a more Lucha-based flying style than US wrestling fans were used to; Fear Factory blending industrial with death metal), they became watered down shadows of their former selves over the years. True, they do have occasional bouts of greatness still (Lynn/Ki/Styles from 8/7/02; "Shock" and "Edgecrusher" off of Obsolete), but overally they've become little more than flickering candles. Both were also heavily screwed out of the possibility to become big stars in their fields by poor business choices. I think American Dragon -> Dream Theater would be a good. Possibly the most technically proficient to come around in a long time, but they don't show a lot of heart in their work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 WOW !!! Laz, you hit the nail on the JL/Fear Factory and RVD/6FU comparisons. I am very impressed! Way to go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 RVD/6FU, JL/FF, HHH/Met, Flair/Maiden, and I actually think AmDrag/DT is good too. Let's keep these comparisons coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Mick Foley -> Henry Rollins Both men gained cult followings by being extremely hardcore (Cactus Jack in Japan and ECW, Black Flag). Their careers were forever changed with an encounter of their idol (Foley hitchhiking to get at ring side to see Snuka, Rollins jumping on stage and taking the mic at a Black Flag show). This caused both to be immense underground legends. However, once they were able to get into a more mainstream company (going to WWE and the Rollins Band) they toned down their hardcoreness and it showed how diverse and talented they really are. They are both accomplished authors, have given college lectures/tours, and are propably the greatest public relations person for their respective fields. In later years they've slown down (Foley retiring from wrestling, Rollins not touring/recording) in order to focus on their writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Awesome and right on the dot comparison. Rollins is a bit more angry than Foley, but still pretty much on the dot. How about Kelly Osbourne= Ed Leslie. Kelly isn't really metal and Ed isn't really a wrestler. Either way both are constantly pushed by a powerful family or friend (Ozzy and Hogan). Both are constantly changing their image to find some form of success while constantly hanging around with their famous friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 KISS = Hogan is still my fave The Darkness = A-Train Both have a style born out of the fashion of the 80s, which some enjoy and some do not. Both have a distinct comedy value and can be considered garish in appearance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 9, 2003 No love for Crowbar and Crowbar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 I've never even heard of the band Crowbar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Whaaaat? You need some swamp metal, stat. Crowbar Eyehategod Down Acid Bath Agents of Oblivion Goatwhore (some) Soilent Green Most of the bands are inbred as hell. In fact, I think every band on that list has shared members. I wouldn't really call Agents a metal band, but they're from the area, and the lead singer was the singer from Acid Bath, so they're pertinent here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Crowbar Eyehategod Down Acid Bath Agents of Oblivion Goatwhore (some) Soilent Green I've only heard of EHG and Down, and only listened to Down's music My area of specialization in metal is doom (MDB, Paradise Lost, older Anathema, etc.) and black (Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Children of Bodom, Immortal, etc.), though I like a little something from all branches of the metal tree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 9, 2003 It's not so much its own separate myriad metal subgenre, more of a geographical classification. Down sounds absolutely nothing like Acid Bath, but they came out right around the same time, from the same place, and share a sound, of sorts. Goatwhore's closer to black metal than anything else. Sort of the Venom, Bathory type of raw stuff. Sammy Duet, who plays lead guitar with them was also with Acid Bath, and did a stint with Crowbar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Agent of Oblivion Posted on Dec 9 2003, 08:53 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No love for Crowbar and Crowbar? I dislike Crowbar, but I was feeling the comparison. My area of specialization in metal is doom (MDB, Paradise Lost, older Anathema, etc.) and black (Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Children of Bodom, Immortal, etc.), though I like a little something from all branches of the metal tree Children of Bodom isn't black metal. You piss off the purists with rubbish like that. I'll do some comparisons later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 [My area of specialization in metal is doom (MDB, Paradise Lost, older Anathema, etc.) and black (Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Children of Bodom, Immortal, etc.), though I like a little something from all branches of the metal tree Children of Bodom isn't black metal. You piss off the purists with rubbish like that. Fuck the purists. Let me guess, it's not BM ust because it's a bit more technical and the lyrics aren't satanic? By that token, Immortal wouldn't be BM either. Alexi Laiho sure has a BM voice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Angelslayer Posted on Dec 9 2003, 01:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (Thumbtack @ Dec 9 2003, 03:22 PM) [quote My area of specialization in metal is doom (MDB, Paradise Lost, older Anathema, etc.) and black (Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Children of Bodom, Immortal, etc.), though I like a little something from all branches of the metal tree Children of Bodom isn't black metal. You piss off the purists with rubbish like that. Fuck the purists. Let me guess, it's not BM ust because it's a bit more technical and the lyrics aren't satanic? By that token, Immortal wouldn't be BM either. Alexi Laiho sure has a BM voice Technicality has never been a contention in black metal, neither has satanic lyrical subjects. Examples of this are Emperor and Enslaved(off the top of my head). Both highly technical from the start. I don't recall Varg Vikernes(Burzum) ever really dealing with anything satanic in his songs. And he is the focal point of accusations about being satanic. Alexi Laiho sure can carry a scream, but the guy from Mushroomhead can growl pretty low. Doesn't make them death metal. Children Of Bodom doesn't have the....feel. And I'm not trying to be confrontational...I'm a purist, not an elitist. EDIT: And hold on just a damn second Slayer. You listed your doom likings and stated Anathema, but noting it was only older Anathema you like? Tell me you cannot possibly think The Silent Enigma or Serenades is better than Eternity or Judgement? Please tell me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2003 Technicality has never been a contention in black metal, neither has satanic lyrical subjects. Examples of this are Emperor and Enslaved(off the top of my head). Both highly technical from the start. I don't recall Varg Vikernes(Burzum) ever really dealing with anything satanic in his songs. And he is the focal point of accusations about being satanic. Alexi Laiho sure can carry a scream, but the guy from Mushroomhead can growl pretty low. Doesn't make them death metal. Children Of Bodom doesn't have the....feel. And I'm not trying to be confrontational...I'm a purist, not an elitist. First, I see purism and elitism as the same essentially, to lay the groundwork for the rest of the post. Your POV doesn't sound like the purists' viewpoint at all. I think you just argued for why CoB is a BM band, really. From my experience, the BM-purist is the one who demands the exact type of music I described: Lacking technicality (i.e. just super-fast riffing for the most part, some keyboards) and satanic content. It is for those very reasons why I've heard the same type of people not include CoB as a BM band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
