The College Football Championship Week Thread

[Guest Just J]

In that case shouldn't only conference champions be allowed into the Final Four?

Now tour comparing apples and oranges.

 

OU only played and beat 2 top 25 teams and didn't win their conference. LSU played and beat a top 5 ranked team twice.

 

There is nothing left to be said.

OU dominated there opponents and embarassed just about all of them. They lost a game because they thought they were hot shit not because they weren't good enough.

Nuff said.

When you dominate shitty teams it really doesn't mean much. Oh and OU didn't dominate or embarass Bama. And we finished 4-8.

[Damaramu 0]

In that case shouldn't only conference champions be allowed into the Final Four?

Now tour comparing apples and oranges.

 

OU only played and beat 2 top 25 teams and didn't win their conference. LSU played and beat a top 5 ranked team twice.

 

There is nothing left to be said.

OU dominated there opponents and embarassed just about all of them. They lost a game because they thought they were hot shit not because they weren't good enough.

Nuff said.

When you dominate shitty teams it really doesn't mean much. Oh and OU didn't dominate or embarass Bama. And we finished 4-8.

I'm still not seeing the "OU dominated shitty teams" argument. If you want to do that then look at USC's schedule that was just posted. They had about the same quality of opponents. And yet people are crying for USC to be the god of all teams. And OU is satan somehow. Despite the fact that OU beat there opponents in a more impressive manner.

It's like Verne was saying. OU should've taken care of business tonight. But they didn't. However all season they've taken care of business better than anyone in history except for 95 Nebraska.

That right there should earn them a national title game.

[Damaramu 0]

It's basically like this. I think OU deserves to be in the national title game. But I think LSU and USC do as well. Whoever goes are the ones that deserve to be there the most. Whoever wins deserve to be national champions.

Nothing will change my mind on that.

[2GOLD 0]

And USC dominated crappy teams! If USC HAD played harder teams then THEY WOULD BE THE BCS #2 or #1.

 

That is the point! Does anyone know how the stupid BCS computer even WORKS for god sake???

 

The freaking strength of schedule WAS AS FOLLOWS

 

Oklahoma 14

LSU 54

USC 37

 

And that was before this weeks game.

 

God, lower the number, the harder the schedule.

 

USC does not have ONE quality win.

[lomasmoney 0]

what happens if michigan beat percieved #1 USC in the Rose Bowl, wouldn't they have a legit beef that they are the best team in the country. I say fucking let the top 4 play it out and stop all this bullshit because Michigan has been playing just as good if not better than any team in america

[2GOLD 0]

what happens if michigan beat percieved #1 USC in the Rose Bowl, wouldn't they have a legit beef that they are the best team in the country. I say fucking let the top 4 play it out and stop all this bullshit because Michigan has been playing just as good if not better than any team in america

 

If Michigan beats USC then Michigan would end up as #2 and the winner of LSU/Oklahoma is the national champion outright.

 

You want to know what is REALLY funny? LSU hurt themselves by beating Georiga cause that may knock Georiga out of the top ten which would knock Georiga out of being a quality win.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Michigan can make a claim, but has long as OU or LSU finishes with 1 loss it will tough to for Michigan to have a legitmate beef.

[Damaramu 0]

I'm a Michigan fan so I'm rooting for Michigan. And since I'm an OU fan...I'm definetly rooting for Michigan so OU can be the undispute national champions.

And once again Verne and 2GOLD provide level heads here.

Thank you for backing up what I'm saying here 2GOLD. OU may have dominated teams that people consider crappy...but hey....USC and LSU had a worse strength of schedule and didn't do what OU did to there opponents.

So there's OU's claim at being in the National Championship. Yes they lost the conference but they dominated the season and the number point to them being the best team in the nation. Which means they have a legit claim at that title game. No matter how much you complain they don't...they do plain and simple.

They lost on a fluke. They didn't lose because K-State was better. If OU had gone in there like they had against Texas and played like they did against Texas we wouldn't be having this argument right now.

Unfortunately they didn't. However they still dominated there season like no other and put up more impressive numbers than LSU and USC.

Thererfore they deserve that title spot.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Going away from the title talk.

 

I'd love to see Boise St. play Miami (OH). IMO...Those are clearly the 2 best mid-major teams in the country. Two great offenses. That would be won heck of a game.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I think they should erase a bowl (Like Fiesta or Orange) and have USC vs Michigan at Rose while OU vs LSU at Fiesta/Orange, and the winners going head to head at Sugar Bowl for the championship.

[Slayer 0]

I think Dama doubled his post count last night

[Cartman 0]

OU Didn't win their friggin conference, they shouldn't be in the "Championship Game".

 

I hope OU get's bitchslapped again by LSU.

[CanadianChris 0]

And to refute one point Dama made...USC's wins have been every bit as impressive as Oklahoma's. They failed to score 30 in only one game, and that was a shutout against then-no. 6 Auburn. Just because they didn't roll up 77 on a team doesn't mean they were less dominating in victory.

[Slayer 0]

Headline in this morning's Wichita paper: "OU HAD BETTER BELIEVE IT!"

 

It's a keeper

[Damaramu 0]

I think Dama doubled his post count last night

Yes yes I did.

I'm rabid about OU dammit.

All will be decided today whenever the BCS Show comes on and the AP Top 25 is released....

 

And I really don't think LSU can beat OU if OU is on top of there game. That game that was playing last night WAS NOT a normal OU team. That team last night was a half there OU team. They scored a touchdown off there first drive and there heads exploded. They thought "What I assumed is correct. We're going to dominate. Time to phone it in." and that was there fucking downfall. Once again they didn't lose because they aren't good enough. They lost because they didn't play like they usually do. If they had been the OU they've been then they would've won.

 

Ok so then if USC loses to Michigan will people be calling OU/LSU undisputed champions because USC is now a two loss team and the winner is the only one loss team left? Or will people still have something to bitch about? If OU is rocked in the title game then I am done defending them. There will be no fucking excuse for losing that game. If they lose close...then I commend them for trying hard. If they are rocked like they were last night....then they have an ego problem and Stoops needs new players....or OU needs a new coach.

Edited December 7, 2003 by The Mighty Damaramu

[Damaramu 0]

God this is such a fucking mess. I'm so dissapointed in my team....I could bitch slap everyone of them on Monday if I see any of them. They're probably embarassed to go to class because they know it was there fucking fault! And if they don't go to the National Title game....then they really need to look in the mirror and say "My ego is to big."

Anyways......as a Michigan and OU fan I'm pulling for those 2 in there games to make OU the undisputed national champions.

Oh and for people that are saying they don't belong in the title game. There is a reason the BCS has them as #1 you know......

[Guest Just J]

In that case shouldn't only conference champions be allowed into the Final Four?

Now tour comparing apples and oranges.

 

OU only played and beat 2 top 25 teams and didn't win their conference. LSU played and beat a top 5 ranked team twice.

 

There is nothing left to be said.

OU dominated there opponents and embarassed just about all of them. They lost a game because they thought they were hot shit not because they weren't good enough.

Nuff said.

When you dominate shitty teams it really doesn't mean much. Oh and OU didn't dominate or embarass Bama. And we finished 4-8.

I'm still not seeing the "OU dominated shitty teams" argument. If you want to do that then look at USC's schedule that was just posted. They had about the same quality of opponents. And yet people are crying for USC to be the god of all teams. And OU is satan somehow. Despite the fact that OU beat there opponents in a more impressive manner.

It's like Verne was saying. OU should've taken care of business tonight. But they didn't. However all season they've taken care of business better than anyone in history except for 95 Nebraska.

That right there should earn them a national title game.

The thing is that I never said USC had a harder schedule. We were talking about OU. But that's just part of the reason they shouldn't be in "the game".

 

OU Didn't win their friggin conference, they shouldn't be in the "Championship Game".

 

There's always that reason and it alone proves without a shadow of a doubt that they shouldn't play for a national championship.

[2GOLD 0]

Going away from the title talk.

 

I'd love to see Boise St. play Miami (OH). IMO...Those are clearly the 2 best mid-major teams in the country. Two great offenses. That would be won heck of a game.

 

Hell yes that would be an amazing game. Considering Miami (OH) has probably the best QB that the nation has never seen [i've seen him a few times and damn that guy can throw], I think it would easily be the best bowl game.

 

But it won't happen cause the bowls have a certain set-up and that doesn't usually include fun match-ups like that.

 

I still think Boise State and Miami (OH) got cheated in the rankings. No love for the smaller conferences cause of that damn computer. I think both of these teams could kick some Top Five ass.

 

I really agree, Miami(OH) vs Boise State would rock.

[Damaramu 0]

In that case shouldn't only conference champions be allowed into the Final Four?

Now tour comparing apples and oranges.

 

OU only played and beat 2 top 25 teams and didn't win their conference. LSU played and beat a top 5 ranked team twice.

 

There is nothing left to be said.

OU dominated there opponents and embarassed just about all of them. They lost a game because they thought they were hot shit not because they weren't good enough.

Nuff said.

When you dominate shitty teams it really doesn't mean much. Oh and OU didn't dominate or embarass Bama. And we finished 4-8.

I'm still not seeing the "OU dominated shitty teams" argument. If you want to do that then look at USC's schedule that was just posted. They had about the same quality of opponents. And yet people are crying for USC to be the god of all teams. And OU is satan somehow. Despite the fact that OU beat there opponents in a more impressive manner.

It's like Verne was saying. OU should've taken care of business tonight. But they didn't. However all season they've taken care of business better than anyone in history except for 95 Nebraska.

That right there should earn them a national title game.

The thing is that I never said USC had a harder schedule. We were talking about OU. But that's just part of the reason they shouldn't be in "the game".

 

OU Didn't win their friggin conference, they shouldn't be in the "Championship Game".

 

There's always that reason and it alone proves without a shadow of a doubt that they shouldn't play for a national championship.

But they are playing in the National Title game. And what if they win that game? And what if USC loses to Michigan? Are you still going to say that OU doesn't deserve it despite having the best numbers and the best record in the league? You'd be in denial then.

[Guest Just J]

Just becasue they are going doesn't mean it's right. The BCS is a piece of shit. If you don't win your conference, I don't care how your season went, you shouldn't have a chance to go to a national championship.

 

I mean how can you play for a national title when you couldn't even win your own conference. It's mind numbing that the BCS is like it is.

[Lando Griffin 0]

Three points:

 

Dama - When you want to show posession, the word is "their" not "there".

 

Not winning the conference - I want to agree on this point, but it's not a level playing field. USC didn't play a conference championship game. Oklahoma still has the best conference record in the Big 12. Until all conferences play title games, this isn't as big a deal as it could be.

 

Computer not having human bias - Who do you think comes up with the formulas? Humans, that's right.

[Damaramu 0]

So then Mr.J....if they win the national title and USC loses what are you going to do? Run around telling people they aren't the champions?

[Art Sandusky 0]

Oh and for those that have been watching sports much longer than me...how do you deal with it whenever your favorite team suffers a crushing defeat? Especially when you are being mocked for your fandom by everyone around you? How? I have yet to find a way to deal with it without wanting to punch out a fan of the offending team that beat yours.

Christmas 1998 I got my Brett Favre jersey, Packer sweatpants, jacket, the works. I was going to wear it all to the first day of school when we got back.

 

The day before, the Packers went down to the 49ers after "The Catch II."

 

I still wore my stuff the next day. I was mocked endlessly, but it was a good game, goddammit.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

The BCS has proven to have bias.

 

Look at last season and how insanely high it had Notre Dame ranked until they totally fell apart. The BCS favors media darling schools.

[Guest Just J]

So then Mr.J....if they win the national title and USC loses what are you going to do? Run around telling people they aren't the champions?

Of course not. It that happens then they will be the champs, but my point is that they shouldn't even be there to begin with.