Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I liked Brock / Rock better than this match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 HHH is involved in a good one on one match where he gets a lot of the offense, so instantly, people will nitpick over the match. I can watch that match over and over again, and not give a shit about mistakes. I didn't watch it to criticise, I watched it to be entertained and the match entertained me greatly. Is it honestly so wrong to mark out for a match that SHOULD be remembered as a great match ? We are blaming the poor match on Shawn, not HHH. Both guys had better matches at Wrestlemania than their match at Summerslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I liked Brock / Rock better than this match. So did I. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I liked Brock / Rock better than this match. and Mysterio/Angle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I liked Brock / Rock better than this match. and Mysterio/Angle... And Undertaker/Tes...well, not really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I liked Brock / Rock better than this match. and Mysterio/Angle... And Undertaker/Tes...well, not really. What does this have to do with anything? Pet peeve of mine, when discussing a match... "Oh well I preferred (not involved) vs. (not involved)" so... You're contributiong NOTHING to this debate, no matter how dead it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 So what if he did a nip-up at WM14? The back wasn't a factor in the story of WM14. Did they even mention he was actually injured? Wow, the point just totally flew over someone's head. Since he COULD do the kip-up when he actually was injured in real life, then it *ISN'T* unrealistic or illogical for him to do it when he's pretending like he's injured. Understand? Oh wait, I forgot, adrenaline is magic pixie dust. Those are called examples. Care to point out some great matches which DON'T tell serious stories? You left out dramatic. 6 man tag from Barely Legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted December 4, 2003 This is pissing me off. One thing is clear: puro fanatics are never going to appreciate performers like Shawn Michaels and WWF marks are never going to appreciate the way that Japanese wrestlers sell (and sometimes over-sell), so let's just drop it. Saying puro fans don't appreciate American wrestlers is a load of crap. If I'm a "puro fanatic", then why have I said many times that my favorite wrestler is STEVE AUSTIN? I praise his work constantly. Same with Benoit. Shawn Michaels isn't flawed compared to Kawada or Liger, he's flawed when compared to his North American peers (Bret, Austin, Benoit, Flair, etc...). So drop this "you hate Shawn because you're just puro trolls!" crap right now. I like a good debate as much as the next smark but sometimes it seems like the puro guys just come in here to troll. See, you keep singling out puro fans. You don't have to be a puro fan to not worship Michaels. Bioneck Redneck and I didn't come in here to troll, we came in here to point out the shittiness of this match. People bitching about a goddamn kip-up! "It blew the match story." WHO GIVES A FUCK!? Who gives a fuck? Serious wrestling fans give a fuck. Wrestling fans who care about logic give a fuck. When a film critic reviews a film, don't they point out plot flaws? Same with wrestling fans. Can't you just watch the match and enjoy the match When it's a shitty illogical match, no. I can't just "enjoy" it. Wow, the point just totally flew over someone's head. Since he COULD do the kip-up when he actually was injured in real life, then it *ISN'T* unrealistic or illogical for him to do it when he's pretending like he's injured. Understand? Oh wait, I forgot, adrenaline is magic pixie dust. No, you miss the point. The story of SS02 was that he was *more* injured than his actual injury in the past. Get it? It's like an actor who has a broken leg playing a man with two broken legs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Uh, yeah. I have been previously known as "Smarkzone", "RollingSambos", and "LexLugARRR"...and probably a couple that I am forgetting. I don't know why they ban me because the worst thing that I ever do is rank on Booker T...and I've been behaving myself. So you were banned before for hating Booker T? Odd....How many times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysPissedOff 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 (edited) Uh, yeah. I have been previously known as "Smarkzone", "RollingSambos", and "LexLugARRR"...and probably a couple that I am forgetting. I don't know why they ban me because the worst thing that I ever do is rank on Booker T...and I've been behaving myself. So you were banned before for hating Booker T? Odd....How many times? He was banned for generally acting like a total douche and disobeying the mods. Lo and behold... he's gone again! Take the hint and stay gone, fuckwad. EDIT: One final thing- Enough of this "you're puro snobs and don't understand!" shit. It wasn't brought up until one of the guys DEFENDING the goddamned match did(which has been noted time and TIME AGAIN by both Bionic and Ray). If you can't debate this without trying to take potshots on something you've never seen just to look like a smartass, then kindly shut the hell up already. Edited December 4, 2003 by AlwaysPissedOff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted December 4, 2003 He was banned for generally acting like a total douche and disobeying the mods. Lo and behold... he's gone again! Take the hint and stay gone, fuckwad. Why couldn't you ban him *before* I spent so much time arguing with him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysPissedOff 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Hah! Sorry, Ray, I was gone all day and just now got on the PC. It's all good now, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Hungerford Smith 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I designed the Smarkzone's HTML for him. Are you going to ban me for that? Seriously. I'll laugh real hard if tomorrow I check this site and find that I'm banned, because it will just prove that the mods here are corrupt and ban people just because they go against the general consensus' opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 But he wasn't banned for that. Smarkzone was an annoying little bitch who loved to piss people off. Try to get your facts straight next time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysPissedOff 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 I designed the Smarkzone's HTML for him. Are you going to ban me for that? Seriously. I'll laugh real hard if tomorrow I check this site and find that I'm banned, because it will just prove that the mods here are corrupt and ban people just because they go against the general consensus' opinion. If I was going to ban someone for going against the general opinion of this board, wouldn't it be Ray, Bionic, and RRR? It's a moot point anyway since he was a PBP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 No, you miss the point. The story of SS02 was that he was *more* injured than his actual injury in the past. Get it? Where did you pull that from? It was the same injury for one thing. And if he was hurt that bad, why would he even agree to fight HHH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Hungerford Smith 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 But he wasn't banned for that. Smarkzone was an annoying little bitch who loved to piss people off. Try to get your facts straight next time I guess I better not gamble with the devil next time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Cause the devil always wins. I really just wish the HBK marks would admit that Shawn did no-sell the back work by HHH. If it didn't affect your enjoyment of the match- fine but don't try to make up reasons why he no-sold it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Uh, yeah. I have been previously known as "Smarkzone", "RollingSambos", and "LexLugARRR"...and probably a couple that I am forgetting. I don't know why they ban me because the worst thing that I ever do is rank on Booker T...and I've been behaving myself. So you were banned before for hating Booker T? Odd....How many times? He was banned for generally acting like a total douche and disobeying the mods. Lo and behold... he's gone again! Take the hint and stay gone, fuckwad. This is fucking stupid. I don't know what he did in the past, but he makes more sense than 95% of the people on this board. So let's see, he's going to make a new name again tomorrow and be right back here since nobody will ever know it's him unless he says it. Why is that? Oh, maybe because HE'S NOT BREAKING ANY RULES. Yet you're still going to waste time banning him for some shit he did a year ago. Does this make any sense to you? How's about bring him back, and you get gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 HE'S NOT BREAKING ANY RULES 7. If you've been banned before, you will NOT be allowed back. Simple as that. Second chances are NOT given, so tread lightly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Hungerford Smith 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Uhh...Banky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Uhh...Banky For some reason he's been granted the proverbial "go apeshit" card. Supposedly he helped out Dames with something concerning the board, so he can do whatever the hell he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 HE'S NOT BREAKING ANY RULES 7. If you've been banned before, you will NOT be allowed back. Simple as that. Second chances are NOT given, so tread lightly. Yeah, And you wouldn't know it was him if he wouldn't have said it. So it's fucking pointless. That's the dumbest rule ever by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Can't you just watch the match and enjoy the match When it's a shitty illogical match, no. I can't just "enjoy" it. HBK v HHH at SS '02 was "shitty"? Wow. -=Mike ...Armageddon you might have a point --- but the SummerSlam match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Uhh...Banky Last night, while I was freaking out and Mike The Admin was away, a certain someone helped me last night with the research on how to bring the forums back without killing 3 months worth of posts and also kept me from becoming more of a wreck than I was last night. I owe him a debt of gratitude and the only thing that he wanted in return was to come back to TSM...so I'm making ONE exception. That person is Banky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysPissedOff 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Banky helpped Dames when the board crashed and asked to be let back and Dames let him. It was his call and I personally had no problem with it. Also, Banky never tried to get back on the board again after he was banned unlike most of the others who've gotten the axe around here. As for Smarkzone, fuck him. If he wants to keep coming back, I'll gladly keep banning him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Hungerford Smith 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Uhh...Banky For some reason he's been granted the proverbial "go apeshit" card. Supposedly he helped out Dames with something concerning the board, so he can do whatever the hell he wants. Yeah, I heard. But it still totally nullifies whatever that Bob guy posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 HE'S NOT BREAKING ANY RULES 7. If you've been banned before, you will NOT be allowed back. Simple as that. Second chances are NOT given, so tread lightly. Yeah, And you wouldn't know it was him if he wouldn't have said it. So it's fucking pointless. That's the dumbest rule ever by the way. Nah- it's not actually. If you can't behave on an internet message board- why do you deserve a second chance? Smarkzone was warned to cut his shit out and he didn't. He got banned. He's come back about 12,000 times since then- having been banned each time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Where did you pull that from? It was the same injury for one thing. And if he was hurt that bad, why would he even agree to fight HHH? I meant he was "hurt" *in the match*. HBK v HHH at SS '02 was "shitty"? Wow. -=Mike ...Armageddon you might have a point --- but the SummerSlam match? Yes. It was shit. Illogical superman no-sell comeback, contrived garbage spots, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2003 Yeah, the exception was made for Banky, and I can see why. Of course, since Banky came back, he still acts like a complete douche and seemingly won't get banned ever again. That's BS, frankly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
