Resident Evil: Apocalypse

[Guest Smues]

Hell yes. The first time the guy said Finish Him! It sounded just like Shang Tsung in the Mortal Kombat movie.

[AndrewTS 0]

Oh, and sounds like Greengrass wasn't even guilty of using it period...bah, seems I got mixed up on my film-making techniques. If the frame itself wasn't being cut, and merely appeared to be vibrating to simulate an earthquake-style effect, that isn't frame-fucking.

 

I'm reading this book THE GROSS by Peter Bart, which is about the summer of 1998 and the movies that open during that summer.

 

One of the movies discussed is, of course, Armageddon.

 

There's this interesting info about Bay's style of editing. Veteran editors call it "frame-fucking" because, and now i'm quoting: "refering to the fact that that the begining and the end of most scenes were eviscerated in an effort to speed the storytelling. Cumulatively the result could be off-putting since the viewer was always plunging into the middle of a conversation, often without understanding even the locale."

 

Usually it appears in, and makes most sense in, action sequences. However, Bay uses it for damn near everything. I'm not sure if he "invented" the process, but he's most famous for (ab)using it.

 

I was partly confusing it with...

 

...the "speed-ram editing" tecnique (that's how it's called in Hollywood jingo when you in the same scene change the speed of the shoot, as Michael Bay sometimes likes to do, but which was used in all its in glory in BEHIND ENEMY LINES,...editor is the same as Die Another Day).

 

When you've seen movies this summer with frame-fucked, speed-rammed, "shaky" action sequences, I guess you can see how your brain can blender them all together.

 

On the topic of the "Matrix" style effects, I REA started to go downhill as soon as Super-Milla bursts into the church on the motorcycle and ices the Licker. Up until that point, the mood was rather well set and the pacing was done perfectly, IMO. Ah well...

 

To me, the stupidest part of the movie is when they head to the graveyard and the corpses burst out of the graves. Uh-uh. Clearly these weren't fresh graves, they were buried for quite a while and many were heavily rotted. The T-virus couldn't do that even if it soaked into the ground, because it only affects recently-dead corpses, and even then I think that the person has to be infected while alive. Can't even play by the established rules, eh?.

[razazteca 0]

The ending was full of BS How is it that the helicopter crashed and had Alice severly injuried with burns but somehow everybody else survived?

[Guest Vitamin X]

The ending was full of BS How is it that the helicopter crashed and had Alice severly injuried with burns but somehow everybody else survived?

Wasn't Alice closest to the door?

 

It's entirely possible that one person gets hurt more than others in a crash, you know...

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I was planning to use my free ticket to see this but from the sounds of it, its not even worth that.

[Above Average 0]

I think it was an okay movie. I'll completely agree with AndrewTS about the pacing early. It was on point. I kept thinking back to when I first played RE:Nemesis. My theater loved Epps comic relief role, as did I. He was hilarious, but I liked him in the Friday series, so take that as you will.

 

Best things:

 

They did a good job of tying things into the game (winks to the fans) and the last movie. Angie Ashford being the model of the Red Queen, I think. The explanation of Nemesis' S.T.A.R.S fetish got a reaction out of the people behind us, as well. But I was sad to say they didn't explain why Jill knew about how to kill the Zombies. They should have mentioned the other Mansion. And the little kids killing the report was money to my crowd.

 

It was a solid movie. Loud, but I wasn't falling alseep like in Van Helsing. Honestly, I don't think I wasted my money.

[Guest CronoT]

I'm going to go see it tomorrow, and since I'm going to the first showing of the day, I pay a dollar less than the matinee price.

[AndrewTS 0]

I think it was an okay movie. I'll completely agree with AndrewTS about the pacing early. It was on point. I kept thinking back to when I first played RE:Nemesis. My theater loved Epps comic relief role, as did I. He was hilarious, but I liked him in the Friday series, so take that as you will.

 

Best things:

 

They did a good job of tying things into the game (winks to the fans) and the last movie. Angie Ashford being the model of the Red Queen, I think. The explanation of Nemesis' S.T.A.R.S fetish got a reaction out of the people behind us, as well. But I was sad to say they didn't explain why Jill knew about how to kill the Zombies. They should have mentioned the other Mansion. And the little kids killing the report was money to my crowd.

 

It was a solid movie. Loud, but I wasn't falling alseep like in Van Helsing. Honestly, I don't think I wasted my money.

I guess it's assumed that Jill already had gone through RE 1--but obviously RE2 was completely cut out of the storyline. It's a shame because like MKII, they passed on what would been the best storyline to follow up with.

 

Then again, maybe Jill just watched Dawn of the Dead or something.

 

At least the bullet-time thing wasn't as horribly used in the original movie. I remember when they went to bullet-time for a shot that went into the Licker...and did nothing, and it just continued along. It wasn't even played off as "oh ****", it was just as if it was randomly inserted, because more shots kept coming and nothing happened. Really, really pointless use of it, IMO. Thankfully, they killed the stupid "UberLicker" mutation stuff from the first movie. I'm glad they only used them there, because when you see it, you go "hey, there's a CGI effect," and shrug it off since it looks so fake and out of place. It works best when you rarely see the monster or only parts of it.

 

Oh--for those who have played the less-famous Code Veronica game, you get to see a scene ripped from one of its cinemas (although the same person doesn't use it). That would be when Milla is ordered to drop her gun, and does so, but then quickly catches it and shoots.

 

Also, yes--I enjoyed it much more than Van Helsing, which really, REALLY sucked.

 

I hate it when reviews take such a pandering, condescending approach to it, rather than just rating it as a stand-alone. It's even worse when they have no idea what they're talking about, like this guy.

 

Witt, who cut his teeth as a second unit director on action thrillers "Speed," "XXX" and "The Bourne Identity," instead pours all his energy into stylized, blood-spattered fight scenes that come at a breakneck pace and should please the target audience, who grew up blasting the walking undead on Nintendos.

 

Because RE game fights were all about "breakneck pace," and the "target audience" of course grew up playing the games on a Nintendo system....

 

Of course, mostly teenagers actually got into the RE games, but far be it for a reviewer to make statements without doing some rudimentary research.

 

The movie pretty much threw out the mood of the game right about where I mentioned above, although kid zombies were memorable, and were something that the programmers of the games wanted to do since RE2, but were afraid to.

[Anya 0]

I haven't seen the movie but...

 

The graveyard thing does not sound like a mistake. There's graveyard scenes with zombies digging out in RE3 and CV.

 

 

 

MK Annihilation couldn't really follow MK II's story since they basically combined MK and MK II in the first movie. It made sense to do MK3's story.

[Guest wildpegasus]

A story

 

 

WP -- Big time Resident Evil fan -- saw the commercial on TV -- concluded movie sucked -- didn't go to see it.

 

 

The end.

[AndrewTS 0]

I haven't seen the movie but...

 

The graveyard thing does not sound like a mistake. There's graveyard scenes with zombies digging out in RE3 and CV.

 

 

 

MK Annihilation couldn't really follow MK II's story since they basically combined MK and MK II in the first movie. It made sense to do MK3's story.

Then they screwed up in the game?

 

How did they combine MKI and MKII in the first movie? There's Kitana and...that's about it.

[Anya 0]

Well, Jax and Kahn are also in the movie. Neither where in MK1.

 

The whole point of MK II was to force the Earth warriors into Outworld so that Kahn could kill them himself. In the movie they do the same thing, except it's Shang and an extension of the first tournament. At the end Kahn comes to Earth. Starting up with Kahn invading and going right into MK3 makes a lot of sense.

 

In the games storyline MK II is basically irrelevant anyway. It's been treated almost like a sidestory since MK3. The only important part about it is introducing characters like Kitana and Kahn. Which they did in the first movie.

[dubq 0]

Saw it [RE:2] last night. It was okay. It was cool to see a ton of Toronto landmarks that are literally across the street. Raccoon City has a Pizza Pizza and a CIBC? COOL!

 

All in all, I thought it was good, but not better than the Dawn remake earlier this year. There were more zombies than in the first RE, and they looked better this time around.. but the ending just left me with a sour taste in my mouth.

 

Still, Sienna Guillroy [Jill] has to be the worst actress I've seen since... well.. I can't even say! But she brings the hotness, so I'll overlook that this time around.

[AndrewTS 0]

So far, the box office gross is $23.7 million. So unless it has a hell of a week this week, it's a bomb.

 

Part of it, I think, is the bad timing. Hopefully the same thing won't happen to Sky Captain this weekend.

[LatinAssasin 0]

I saw the movie, and I think it was well worth the money. Yes, it's mostly a mindless action movie, but honestly, who was expecting more? Like someone said earlier, if you want the same thing as the game, you might as well play the game. I'm glad that they changed some things a bit, that way you dont really know what's coming.

 

Also, a topless Milla is a good thing.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

So I finally saw it last night and I enjoyed it as a mindless action movie, but yeah as someone said earlier, I wish Alice wasn't there so Jill and Carlos could have their spotlight in the movie as they did in RE3.

 

Okay, so they use Jill and Carlos dead on from the game yet they use Alexander Ashford and change his name to fucking Charles? Its obvious Angela is supposed to be Alexia yet they totally ignore that Alfred existed? WTF? Oh yeah, they also kill Charles off at the end so there's no way he can become the monster he turned into in Code Veronica so they fucked themselves over on that part if they ever bother trying to make a RE movie based on CV.

 

I also would have liked small cameo appearance from Leon and/or Claire, but they were probably gone by then.

 

And another bullshit thing: They killed off Nicolai even though he was supposed to be an important character in RE3. Seriously what the fuck?!!

 

Oh yeah I marked out when Nemesis said Stars!

[Guest PlatinumBoy]

One HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE problem with the cover up--meltdowns DON'T FUCKING MAKE EXPLOSIONS--they just release radiation. I know they were trying to be all 9/11 conspiracy theoryish--but anyone with half a brain would see through the nonsense.

[Anya 0]

yet they use Alexander Ashford and change his name to fucking Charles? Its obvious Angela is supposed to be Alexia yet they totally ignore that Alfred existed? WTF? Oh yeah, they also kill Charles off at the end so there's no way he can become the monster he turned into in Code Veronica so they fucked themselves over on that part if they ever bother trying to make a RE movie based on CV.

They just used the Ashford name as a nod to the fans. It wasn't supposed to mean anything or be taken from CVX. Angela was nothing like Alexia.

 

 

If they were a take on any RE characters it'd be William Birkin and Sherry.

[Guest CronoT]

So I finally saw it last night and I enjoyed it as a mindless action movie, but yeah as someone said earlier, I wish Alice wasn't there so Jill and Carlos could have their spotlight in the movie as they did in RE3.

 

Okay, so they use Jill and Carlos dead on from the game yet they use Alexander Ashford and change his name to fucking Charles?  Its obvious Angela is supposed to be Alexia yet they totally ignore that Alfred existed?  WTF? Oh yeah, they also kill Charles off at the end so there's no way he can become the monster he turned into in Code Veronica so they fucked themselves over on that part if they ever bother trying to make a RE movie based on CV.

 

I also would have liked small cameo appearance from Leon and/or Claire, but they were probably gone by then.

 

And another bullshit thing:  They killed off Nicolai even though he was supposed to be an important character in RE3.  Seriously what the fuck?!!

 

Oh yeah I marked out when Nemesis said Stars!

I no longer have the e-mail with the Resident Evil movie newsletter, but in it, it says the reason that Jill Valentine was suspended, was because she "witnessed the violent death of her partner, Leon Kennedy."

 

I might have posted it earlier in the thread, if you go back through about 80-some posts to find it.

[dubq 0]

So I finally saw it last night and I enjoyed it as a mindless action movie, but yeah as someone said earlier, I wish Alice wasn't there so Jill and Carlos could have their spotlight in the movie as they did in RE3.

 

Okay, so they use Jill and Carlos dead on from the game yet they use Alexander Ashford and change his name to fucking Charles?  Its obvious Angela is supposed to be Alexia yet they totally ignore that Alfred existed?  WTF? Oh yeah, they also kill Charles off at the end so there's no way he can become the monster he turned into in Code Veronica so they fucked themselves over on that part if they ever bother trying to make a RE movie based on CV.

 

I also would have liked small cameo appearance from Leon and/or Claire, but they were probably gone by then.

 

And another bullshit thing:  They killed off Nicolai even though he was supposed to be an important character in RE3.  Seriously what the fuck?!!

 

Oh yeah I marked out when Nemesis said Stars!

Are you retarded? How many times do they have to say that the movie storyline has nothing to do with the videogame storyline? Fuck, I'm the biggest RE fanboy I know and even I don't care about this..

[HellSpawn 0]

Anybody know about an Special Box Set with RE (2 discs) / RE:A (2 discs) ?

I saw the RE/RE:A (2 Disc) set, but some friend say something about a 4 discs set.

 

I think I saw something like that but was a zone 3, and this is Zone 1.

[AndrewTS 0]

I'm sure a regular RE:A DVD set with 2 DVDs just for RE:A is out. I didn't know a 2 disc set existed for the first one.

 

*Checks BOM for the final results on RE:A*

Domestic:  $51,201,453    39.6%

+ Overseas:  $78,193,382    60.4%

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= Worldwide:  $129,394,835 

 

People suck.

[HellSpawn 0]

Yeah, the RE:A 2 Disc set is out, but some "genious" in Latin America launched this movie in that awesome format called... FULL SCREEN !!!!

And I think its only 1 disc.

Thats why Im looking for the R1, and... my friend told me about that 4 Disc set.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Are you retarded? How many times do they have to say that the movie storyline has nothing to do with the videogame storyline? Fuck, I'm the biggest RE fanboy I know and even I don't care about this..

 

Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, for one thing, I didn't watch Entertainment Tonight to see whatever the fuck the director said about his treatment of the movie and two, if you're gonna make a movie about a video game, either be faithful to the storyline or don't use the fucking characters at all!