Mrnoitaull 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2003 Hey I watched Terminator the other day and I noticed whan they had Sarah's baby's father/futuristic soldier on tape for investigation it was VERY similar to Sarah's tape recording in the facility in T2. for example them emntioning "You dont get it do you!!!!" and even them pausing the recording as they begin to flip out. You think Cameron did that on prupose or just coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted December 8, 2003 DOES NOT COMPUTE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted December 8, 2003 I never noticed that before. Good eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted December 8, 2003 I see what he's saying. I wouldn't be surprised, lots of film makers do little things like that all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 SPOILERS AHEAD, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MOVIES YOU DESERVE A SMACK TO THE FUCKING HEAD. Cameron, when he wants to, can make some GREAT directorial choices for increasing the emotion added to a film. Aliens is one of the most emotionally charged action/sci-fi films I've ever seen, and Abyss had that whole "we're divorced, but do we still want to be" thing. I'd say this was intentional. If you notice in the first two films, the same character basis was there. Terminator: Kyle Reese is a hardened soldier from the future sent back in time to ensure the survival of Sarah, and thereby John, Connor. Connor is a naive young woman that is being targeted for termination by the T-101. The T-101 is a virtually indestructible killing machine that is eventually stopped in a factory. Terminator 2: Sarah Connor is a hardened young woman serving time for trying to blow up the main computer lab of the Cyberdyne corporation, and tries to ensure the survival of her young son, John Connor, with the aid of a reprogrammed T-101. The T-101 is a virtually indestructible, but reprogrammed, killing machine sent back in time to ensure the survival of John Connor. John Connor is a naive young boy that is being targeted for termination by the T-1000. The T-1000 is a virtually indestructible killing machine, made of liquid metal (a synthetic poly-alloy, to be precise), sent back in time by SkyNet to kill John Connor. Sarah/T-101 = Kyle Reese John = Sarah T-1000 = T-101 The roles were slightly modified to make due for the changes in technology and character advancements (Sarah HAD to become hardened so John could survive), but the cores of them are still intact. Also, if you'll notice another parallel, Kyle and Sarah destroy the T-101 in Terminator by drawing it into a factory, where Kyle dies and Sarah is forced to crush the T-101's endoskeleton in a piece of the machinery. In Terminator 2, the trio (T-101, Sarah, and John) draw the T-1000 into a steel factory, and after the T-101 is forced to reroute his power cells to avoid early termination, the T-1000 is shot into a batch of molten steel, thus melting it and destroying it from existence. Another big thing I love about Terminator 2 is the relatively LOW body count. The body count is as follows: -Cop (T-1000 takes his form, his gun, and his car) -Janitor in the back of the mall -John Connor's foster parents -The mental instituion security guard -PRESUMABLY the motorcycle cop -Miles -Trucker That's about 8 human casualties (I'm not counting the Future War or those that die in Sarah's visions of Judgment Day). The first had about 30 (most of which were in the police station), and the third had upwards of 100 or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 ::nitpicks:: The arnie-bot is a T-800, Cyberdyne Systems model 101. Reese mentions this in the first movie, comparing the 800s to the rubber-skinned 600 series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Ah, good point. It was T3 where Arnie was a T-101 (and they mention this in the movie), and T3 was the one I watched most recently in full. While I was typing that long-ass post, I was wondering how T-1000 could have shoved that pole through Arnie's midsection, and the huge hydrogen explosing that occurred from the power core melting down, like, in T3, didn't happen. Then again, T3 went against nearly everything previously established in the series, so hey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 I think he was a T-850 series (still a T-101, just an upgraded version) in T3. That wasn't explicitly stated in the movie, but I read it on some "official" sites, and his power cell structure is different, so it's reasonable to presume that the T3 Arnie-bot is an upgrade over the previous ones, but still obsolete compared to the TX. I was hoping the T3 Arnie-bot would be a T1000, myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 I always hated the T-1000. I mean...wow...he's made of liquid metal...so why not freeze him a whole lot, or put him into an airtight container? I don't think it'd be that hard to do such, since he's stunned after receiving multiple bullet wounds. T3 could've been so much better had it been, like, an hour longer, and built up the relationships between all three characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted December 8, 2003 The first person I have ever heard say something bad about the T-1000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2003 T2 has been on USA or Sci-Fi something like 5 times since Thanksgiving weekend, and I think I've had it on every time. I can never decide if that or Aliens is Cameron's best. Guess I'll just have to keep watching them over and over again until I come up with an answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
