ROH Final Battle 2003

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Intermission.

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So far...

 

 

Convention Card

 

- Sumie Sakai defeated Allison Danger

 

- CM Punk cut a promo on Muta

 

- Josh Daniels defeated Puma with a Fisherman's Buster.

 

- Dunn and Marcos and The Christopher St. Connection went to a No Contest when CM Punk interfered. He hit Mase with the Pepsi Plunge.

 

- Hydro defeated Oman Tortuga, Nick Gage and Slyk Wagner Brown in a Four Corner Survival Match with a Pumphandle Piledriver.

 

- Special K and The Carnage Crew went to a No Contest.

 

- Trent Acid defeated Sonjay Dutt with a Yakuza Kick.

 

- The Briscoe Brothers defeated The SAT with a Doomsday Device to retain the ROH Tag Team Titles. After the tag title match, when Joe and Danielson were in the ring together, Danielson said that he would not shake Joe's hand until they fought each other for the ROH World Title.

 

 

 

Main Show

 

- Bryan "American Dragon" Danielson beat Jay Briscoe with the Cattle Mutilation

 

- John Walters beat Xavier. Xavier quits The Prophecy afterwards, and joins Prince Nana...???

 

- Matt Stryker beat BJ Whitmer with the Stryker Lock to win the Field Of Honor Tournament. Locker room congratulates Stryker afterwards.

 

- Samoa Joe beat Mark Briscoe to retain the ROH World Title, and get Joe/Danielson a tag title shot at the next show, by choking Mark out.

 

- BJ Whitmer was revealed as the person that attacked Lucy, and joined the Prophecy.

 

- Intermission

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Daniels/Maff/Whitmer vs. Punk/Cabana/Steel for the 1/10 show.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

You would say that.

 

Not all of us think that Dutt, Acid and AB Luke are the be all and end all Barber, a little less bias in your posts would be nice

 

 

you do realize that the Dutt/Acid "off the charts good" comment was taken verbatim from an unrelated third party currently at the show, then posted on the RoH board, then cut and pasted here, right....? that may explain the quotes.

 

so any bias belongs to dude's friend Joe in Philly.

 

 

(although... you are, as far as i'm concerned, correct about Luke, Acid, and to a lesser extent, Dutt.)

from the TNA 2004 Wishlist thread, he goes on about wanting AB Luke or Dutt to "save" the X-Division

 

From what I've seen of both XPW and CZW, Acid and Luke are overrated piles of shit, moreso Acid, and Dutt is a spotmonkey who's only saving grace is his higher hit frequency than Teddy Annis

 

I don't mind people expressing their like for a certain wrestler, but calling a spotfest "off the charts good" and calling Whitmer- Stryker boring just reeks of bias

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Scramble Cage 2 announced for 2nd Anniversary Show.

[Guest bort]

I will not take this Trent Acid bashing, his CZW work is amazing, same with dutt,

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

I'm absolutely postive there was more psychology in one minute of hte FOH Final than the entire "match" between Trent "I only have a job because my uncle runs CZW" Acid and Sonjay "Pinball" Dutt

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I'm absolutely postive there was more psychology in one minute of hte FOH Final than the entire "match" between Trent "I only have a job because my uncle runs CZW" Acid and Sonjay "Pinball" Dutt

Good to see you're commenting on the show you've seen so many times. Hey, have a big bowl of NOBODY FUCKING CARES.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

You would say that.

 

Not all of us think that Dutt, Acid and AB Luke are the be all and end all Barber, a little less bias in your posts would be nice

 

 

you do realize that the Dutt/Acid "off the charts good" comment was taken verbatim from an unrelated third party currently at the show, then posted on the RoH board, then cut and pasted here, right....? that may explain the quotes.

 

so any bias belongs to dude's friend Joe in Philly.

 

 

(although... you are, as far as i'm concerned, correct about Luke, Acid, and to a lesser extent, Dutt.)

from the TNA 2004 Wishlist thread, he goes on about wanting AB Luke or Dutt to "save" the X-Division

 

From what I've seen of both XPW and CZW, Acid and Luke are overrated piles of shit, moreso Acid, and Dutt is a spotmonkey who's only saving grace is his higher hit frequency than Teddy Annis

 

I don't mind people expressing their like for a certain wrestler, but calling a spotfest "off the charts good" and calling Whitmer- Stryker boring just reeks of bias

You're an idiot. First of all, YOU clearly have a BIAS towards ME. First you bitch about my GQ Money interview when everyone else's feedback was positive. Now this...

 

Dude, those aren't my opinions! I copied and pasted them from the ROH board! Those are the opinions of redishero's friend, Jose, who's AT the show.

 

Jeez...shut up and stop acting like a moron.

 

Luke is a great highspots worker, and is also pretty good technically. I bought the comp of his career from NWA-Wildside.com and he's quite good...even before he was in XPW, he had a feud with Vic Grimes that produced some of the best matches on the So-Cal circuit in BTW, RPW, SPW, and other feds.

 

And Acid, I agree, he's overrated, to a degree, in that he tries to do stuff that he isn't great at, i.e. a Japanese style, but his matches with Homicide have proved to me that he's better than I thought. The guy is very talented, just not QUITE as talented as some people make him out to be.

 

Stop being so pessimistic.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Coming from a Teddy Annis fan, I'll ignore that.

 

Saying that, Braber hasn't seen the match either, but apparantly its "off the charts good", and Stryker-Whitmer is "boring"????

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Intermission over, and now we SCS vs. TStorm is going now.

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I'm absolutely postive there was more psychology in one minute of hte FOH Final than the entire "match" between Trent "I only have a job because my uncle runs CZW" Acid and Sonjay "Pinball" Dutt

Everything doesn't have to be a technical classic to be a good match. On the Crazy Max boards, a guy did an indepth review that you can still find of the Acid vs. Sonjay match from One More Time (I think it was) in 2002 and explains why it was such a good match. Check it out.

 

It does no good to crap on everything. Wrestling has enough bad shit going for it in the guys like Crash, Stu, Sheik, R. Rock, Petty, etc., dying - don't give it anymore.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Stop being so pessimistic.

I will stop being so pessimistic about the wrestling industry when TNA is out of business, and talentless hacks like Ted Annis and Trent Acid, currently only employed because of their bloodlines, are out of the business

 

Even then all i'll watch is NJPW

 

Whitmer, Stryker, at least someone, me, appreciates what your'e trying to do

[LucharesuFan619 0]

Coming from a Teddy Annis fan, I'll ignore that.

 

Saying that, Braber hasn't seen the match either, but apparantly its "off the charts good", and Stryker-Whitmer is "boring"????

Am I not getting through to you?

 

I NEVER SAID THAT ANY OF THOSE MATCHES WERE GOOD. I AM NOT AT THE RING OF HONOR SHOW THAT IS OCCURRING NOW. I TOOK THE OPINIONS THAT WERE PHONED IN FROM A GUY AT THE SHOW AND POSTED WHAT *HE* SAID ABOUT THE MATCHES.

 

Good lord...

 

I've never heard anything about Acid and Zandig beging related.

Edited December 28, 2003 by LucharesuFan619

[Guest TDinDC1112]

Coming from a Teddy Annis fan, I'll ignore that.

 

Saying that, Braber hasn't seen the match either, but apparantly its "off the charts good", and Stryker-Whitmer is "boring"????

Wow, you're so "smart" for referring to Teddy Hart by his real name. After you get done eating your bowl of NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, wash it down with a glass of PLEASE GO AWAY YOU FUCKING TOOL.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Am I not getting through to you?

 

I NEVER SAID THAT ANY OF THOSE MATCHES WERE GOOD. I AM NOT AT THE RING OF HONOR SHOW THAT IS OCCURRING NOW. I TOOK THE OPINIONS THAT WERE PHONED IN FROM A GUY AT THE SHOW AND POSTED WHAT *HE* SAID ABOUT THE MATCHES.

 

Good lord...

 

I've never heard anything about Acid and Zandig beging related.

Then why use the quote, you could have just said " Acid-Dutt up next, whoever wins, my friend said it was very good"

 

Ditto for the FOH Final. Letting opinion like that shine through in your posts is bad form

 

Everything doesn't have to be a technical classic to be a good match

 

Best US Wrestling Match of 2002 : Chris Benoit/Kurt Angle vs Rey Mysterio Jr/Edge

 

Best US Wrestling Match of 2003 : Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle

 

Well, there's that argument sorted. Word from the wise Barber, if you only watch crap, youre expectations are gonna be low. Me? I only watch WWE (only Velocity and Heat and PPV's, occasional Raw) ROH and NJPW

 

After you get done eating your bowl of NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, wash it down with a glass of PLEASE GO AWAY YOU FUCKING TOOL.

 

I still don't know what I did to piss you off

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I still don't know what I did to piss you off

You called matches that you haven't seen bad. Hmmm...kind of like with TNA. Say Dave, how many TNA shows HAVE you seen? How many times have you watched Final Battle 2003?

 

YOU SUCK.

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- SCS beats TStorm when Punk hit the Pepsi Plunge.

 

 

Edit: On Honma.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

Am I not getting through to you?

 

I NEVER SAID THAT ANY OF THOSE MATCHES WERE GOOD. I AM NOT AT THE RING OF HONOR SHOW THAT IS OCCURRING NOW. I TOOK THE OPINIONS THAT WERE PHONED IN FROM A GUY AT THE SHOW AND POSTED WHAT *HE* SAID ABOUT THE MATCHES.

 

Good lord...

 

I've never heard anything about Acid and Zandig beging related.

Then why use the quote, you could have just said " Acid-Dutt up next, whoever wins, my friend said it was very good"

 

Ditto for the FOH Final. Letting opinion like that shine through in your posts is bad form

 

Everything doesn't have to be a technical classic to be a good match

 

Best US Wrestling Match of 2002 : Chris Benoit/Kurt Angle vs Rey Mysterio Jr/Edge

 

Best US Wrestling Match of 2003 : Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle

 

Well, there's that argument sorted. Word from the wise Barber, if you only watch crap, youre expectations are gonna be low. Me? I only watch WWE (only Velocity and Heat and PPV's, occasional Raw) ROH and NJPW

 

After you get done eating your bowl of NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, wash it down with a glass of PLEASE GO AWAY YOU FUCKING TOOL.

 

I still don't know what I did to piss you off

Then why use the quote, you could have just said " Acid-Dutt up next, whoever wins, my friend said it was very good"

 

B/c I stated at the beginning of when I posted the PBP that the comments were taken from the ROH board, and that the opinions were of Joe's. You can even check.

 

Word from the wise Barber, if you only watch crap, youre expectations are gonna be low.

 

WOW, you made a HALFWAY logical post. Granted, I probably don't want as much puro as you do, but I probably watch more indy stuff than you do. So you have a point, to a degree, but it doesn't really matter. Just because I haven't seen the latest Kobashi classic doesn't mean I can't judge a match.

 

I'll repeat it - a match doesn't have to be technical to be great. Rey/Eddy from HH97 was full of highspots mainly, yet it's still classic. SAT/Red vs. Divine Storm/XL from CZW Take 1 is one of the best spotfests ever and it's considered a great match, even though it didn't have technical prowess galore.

 

Granted, most great matches are technical, but you can have a great spotfest.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Neither has Barber

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- AJ Styles vs. Kaz Hayashi now

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

I'll repeat it - a match doesn't have to be technical to be great. Rey/Eddy from HH97 was full of highspots mainly, yet it's still classic. SAT/Red vs. Divine Storm/XL from CZW Take 1 is one of the best spotfests ever and it's considered a great match, even though it didn't have technical prowess galore.

I've never actaully seen Eddy - Rey, so I can't really comment.

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To get all of your minds off of this stupid flame war, I give you...

 

somebody whose name I don't know

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Thanks Barber

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- AJ beats Kaz with a Styles Clash.

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- Homicide vs. Kojima now

 

 

 

AND LOW KI RETURNS TO ROH~!

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SO IS MONSTA MACK~!

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

WHATASHOCK

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- Low Ki and Mack are in the corners of Homicide....

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- Homicide with a CRAZY Tope Con Hilo~!