The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2003 I have Mojo Records "The Complete Metal Discography" and while it has some errors here and there...it pretty much is a catalog from the 50s to 2001 or so of bands that could be defined in the punk, metal, and hard rock genres (classified in the book as "hardcore, metal, and hard rock" and even throws in some "rap metal" to boot... all in all it covers 1,200 bands/artists and is a very good catalog of stuff...but it includes bands that would fall into punk, hardcore, ska, hard rock, classical metal, classic rock, glam rock/hair metal, and everything in between... but the title specifically says "Metal" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2003 (edited) Coffin, you have my utmost permission to kick these local guitarists in the balls, because Black Sabbath is more blues than anything else. Sabbath is obviously one of the exceptions, since their style would later be developed into what is now known as Doom Metal and Sludge Metal. Still even alot of modern Doom Metal now has a classical influence like My Dying Bride. Of course with Sabbath, this is when Metal was first being developed so it shouldn't come as a suprise that more ingredients would be added to the mix down the road. But if your looking for something that links most metal subgenres like Speed Metal, Power Metal, and even Death Metal, than look no further than the classical influence in the gutiar work. Something that is usually absent from alot of Hard Rock and the so called "Nu Metal", though once again, not always. Edited December 14, 2003 by Coffin Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2003 Good point, but should it be included in the definition of what Metal is if not all sub-genres "fit the mold?" I'm not sure if that is your point or not...my brain blew up like 10 minutes ago. haha No. not quite in cases. I'd just use it as a basic rule of thumb - not totally required, but it could help out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Blas Report post Posted December 14, 2003 Holy shit does that list suck. Well, it was better than I expected it to be, and I have nothing else to add to this thread other than 'hair metal' doesnt belong on that list. With the exception of the Crue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 14, 2003 So you're saying it's basically a totally subjective issue, right? Kotzenjunge, of all people, has made the best statement here, I think. When you start turning heavy metal into a periodic table of bands, each with conveniently identifiable symbols, weights, and reactivity, you completely undermine the free-balling go to hell attitude that makes the music worthwhile. As a whole, I like to look at it as if it were a big wooden barrel full of squid. It's pretty murky, and it's definitely slippery and uncomfortable, with black ink shooting everywhere, with flippy tentacles and suckers. You roll up your sleeve and sink your arm in that fucker, and something's bound to stick... "Hey, Iron Maiden's not so bad. This guy can really sing..." etc. etc.. The point is, you could end up with Lividity, or friggin' Pantera or something stuck to you, and your only course of action would be to peel that bastard off of there, fix up some calimari, and poke the little red circles on your arm with a fork. THAT's fuckin' metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2003 Some days...I just mark the fuck out for AoO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2003 Agreed. Squid = Metal ...BEST...METAPHOR...EVER... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
