EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2003 http://channels.netscape.com/ns/crime/stor...987.htm&sc=1110 Woman Charged With Killing Pregnant Pal HOLDENVILLE, Okla. (AP) - A woman who had been telling people for as much as 10 months that she was expecting a baby killed a pregnant acquaintance and cut the fetus from her womb, authorities said Monday. Prosecutor Linda Evans said she planned to file two murder charges against Effie Goodson, 37, in the slaying of Carolyn Simpson, 21, who was six months pregnant, and the fetus. A hunter found Simpson's body in a field near Lamar, about 100 miles from Oklahoma City, on Friday. She had been shot in the head, authorities said. Simpson was last seen on Dec. 22, leaving a tribal casino in Okemah where she worked and Goodson was a patron, Sheriff Houston Yeager said. Investigators believe the two left the casino together. The next day, Goodson brought a dead fetus that had reached six months gestation to a Holdenville hospital. Goodson claimed to be the mother, but investigators determined she could not have given birth, and she was taken into custody, authorities said. Goodson had falsely told several people that she was pregnant, going back as far as 10 months, Yeager said. Investigators have not yet settled on a motive in the slaying, the sheriff said. ``We've got a few more questions we haven't got answered yet,'' he said. Goodson and Simpson had known each other for about a month after being introduced by family members, he said. Oklahoma courts have ruled that murder charges can be filed in the killing of a fetus if the fetus was viable - that is, if it could survive outside the womb. Under the state's abortion law, a fetus is presumed viable after the 24th week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2003 I see somebody gets his stories from Drudge, too. What's the big deal? I thought as long as the bun is in the oven it's just a blob of tissue... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2003 Sounds like something you'd see on Law and Order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2003 Holy crap, how can people this dumb EXIST?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2003 A blob of tissue? Its a living thing from the moment of conception, whatever that is. But when that man cell hits the woman cell, its a living thing. How living his a different thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2003 I smell an insanity plea when they catch her. She'll get a few months in a mental hospital and be out in time to hit the slots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 I sense this coming an abortion thread soon. So may as well help start it.... Syxx2001, it ISN'T a living thing until it has lungs. It isnt a human until it can support itself. Humans can support themselves at the 7th month stage when the lungs are developed. The brain isn't fully developed until years after birth, for some never(like this trick). Filing two murder charges is dumb because well, one isn't born. If you can have an abortion(partial birth at this stage, done mostly to prevent the death of the mother, which might come illegal soon) then you can't call a murder on the fetus. I may be wrong on some of this, but oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 Then that should mean that plants and bacteria aren't living things either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 But it's not illegal to kill plants or bacteria, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 Certain states have different laws and sometimes what is considered ok to abort is sometimes considered murder. It's very confusing but the very nature of the crime will get her 25 to life in prison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 MX it is POSSIBLE to BECOME a human Because she killed it, it died. You must be out of your mind to think that someone who went around kicking pregnant women in the stomach wouldn't be called a murderer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 is it wrong that the images "someone who went around kicking pregnant women in the stomach" put in my head were really funny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2003 I smirked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites