The One And Only Smackdown Thread (01/22/04)

[Downhome 0]

Chavo Sr. just turned 55.

[MixxMaster 0]

Although, Unless they go with Shawn/Benoit....I have NO clue what they can do with Shawn...

move him to Smackdown!???

[Guest Choken One]

And wrestle who?

 

Shawn is too high-profile to face Anyone other then

 

HHH, Angle, Rock, Benoit...That is pretty much his list.

 

John Cena? God No. The Big Show? Please.

 

Personally, I'd say go Benoit/Shawn and have Rock/HHH...there you get the potential ***** and a HUGE SHOWDOWN with two long hated rivals with big draw attraction.

[Guest Anglesault]

A match with Eddie looks like it might also be near the top,

Only if the title is involved.

 

I don't belive that they'll let a feud of such poor quality anywhere near the top.

 

The only problem is, I really don't want a rehash of the same fucking angle Jericho did with Shawn last year...

 

So instead...

 

Two guys fighting for no reason.

 

Goodie.

 

gives him a chance to brag about the medals and the titles?

 

 

It's pretty much been his character one way or another since he arrived...

 

He likes to annoy people...

 

But why Eddy?

[Guest Choken One]

 

A match with Eddie looks like it might also be near the top,

Only if the title is involved.

 

I don't belive that they'll let a feud of such poor quality anywhere near the top.

 

The only problem is, I really don't want a rehash of the same fucking angle Jericho did with Shawn last year...

 

So instead...

 

Two guys fighting for no reason.

 

Goodie.

 

gives him a chance to brag about the medals and the titles?

 

 

It's pretty much been his character one way or another since he arrived...

 

He likes to annoy people...

 

But why Eddy?

Because Eddy is too emotional to do anything about it...

 

there we go.

[Guest Anglesault]

About what?

 

Kurt's bragging?

 

That is WEAK.

 

So basically you want to book a top level Mania XX feud where the heel is harassing the face because he has nothing better to do.

 

GOOD LORD.

[Guest Choken One]

About what?

 

Kurt's bragging?

 

That is WEAK.

 

So basically you want to book a top level Mania XX feud where the heel is harassing the face because he has nothing better to do.

 

GOOD LORD.

Look at this...

 

 

WM19- The two main events were...A Racist Storyline and Two Old Men fighting for the right to say they created WM.

 

 

WMX8-The Champion was scrapping dog shit a week before his biggest night of his career.

 

 

WM2000-The show focused on the four owners as opposed to the four over superstars.

 

 

WM13- A quicky meaningless World Title Match that literally had a week or so of hype...

 

WM11-A Football Player and a Tattooed Freak that only further embarassed professional wrestling...

 

WM9- A Sham of a World Title Match with hogan emerging as champion

 

 

So it's not like it's the WORST angle for a main event there ever was.

[CanadianChris 0]

And that's not even mentioning the worst one of all, the Gulf War storyline from WM7.

[Guest Anglesault]

About what?

 

Kurt's bragging?

 

That is WEAK.

 

So basically you want to book a top level Mania XX feud where the heel is harassing the face because he has nothing better to do.

 

GOOD LORD.

Look at this...

 

 

WM19- The two main events were...A Racist Storyline and Two Old Men fighting for the right to say they created WM.

 

 

WMX8-The Champion was scrapping dog shit a week before his biggest night of his career.

 

 

WM2000-The show focused on the four owners as opposed to the four over superstars.

 

 

WM13- A quicky meaningless World Title Match that literally had a week or so of hype...

 

WM11-A Football Player and a Tattooed Freak that only further embarassed professional wrestling...

 

WM9- A Sham of a World Title Match with hogan emerging as champion

 

 

So it's not like it's the WORST angle for a main event there ever was.

Yes it is.

 

Every single one of those feuds had a reason to be right from the very beginning of the feud.

 

Right now, Kurt is harassing Eddy for the hell of it.

 

 

"Damn you! You'll never be happy! You want a REASON for a feud?"

 

And that's not even mentioning the worst one of all, the Gulf War storyline from WM7.

 

Hogan still had a REASON to be feuding with Slaughter. The title and America's honor or something.

 

Kurt and Eddy have NOTHING.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Anglesault...though they didn't mention this on TV...how's this?

 

Kurt was upset seeing Eddie gain so much popularity by Lying, Cheating, and Stealing while Kurt was injured, when he preached the three I's.

 

This is his way of getting revenge for that.

 

Not the best, but it still would be a REASON.

[Guest Anglesault]

Anglesault...though they didn't mention this on TV...how's this?

 

Kurt was upset seeing Eddie gain so much popularity by Lying, Cheating, and Stealing while Kurt was injured, when he preached the three I's.

 

This is his way of getting revenge for that.

 

Not the best, but it still would be a REASON.

Nope.

 

Kurt didn't seem to care either way from June to November last year.

[Guest Choken One]

since he was too busy to notice it because he was in his thing for the title with Brock...He never noticed what Eddy was doing until he took time off...

[Guest Anglesault]

since he was too busy to notice it because he was in his thing for the title with Brock...He never noticed what Eddy was doing until he took time off...

He DIDN'T NOTICE?

 

He didn't notice the most over face on the show?

 

MY God, this feud blows.

 

 

Obviously it wasn't an issue four months ago, so it shouldn't just randomly become an issue now.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

since he was too busy to notice it because he was in his thing for the title with Brock...He never noticed what Eddy was doing until he took time off...

He DIDN'T NOTICE?

 

He didn't notice the most over face on the show?

 

MY God, this feud blows.

 

 

Obviously it wasn't an issue four months ago, so it shouldn't just randomly become an issue now.

Just because he didn't MENTION it 4 months ago doesn't mean it wasn't an issue!

 

I'm REALLY sick of you wanting Instant Reactions to everything.

 

SOmetimes, a slower build is best. That's how they did it in the 80s...and we need more of it if you ask me.

 

Maybe Kurt was figuring he gets Lesnar out of the way, then with Lesnar knocked down, he could take care of Eddie.

[AndrewTS 0]

Anglesault...though they didn't mention this on TV...how's this?

 

Kurt was upset seeing Eddie gain so much popularity by Lying, Cheating, and Stealing while Kurt was injured, when he preached the three I's.

 

This is his way of getting revenge for that.

 

Not the best, but it still would be a REASON.

That would make sense, and if you reveal later that Kurt was manipulating the Guerreros and there was a good reason for it, fine.

 

If not...eh, I'd say AS has a good point, but might be jumping the gun now.

 

However, the fans shouldn't have to supply reasons for a storyline happening if there isn't any.

[Guest Anglesault]

since he was too busy to notice it because he was in his thing for the title with Brock...He never noticed what Eddy was doing until he took time off...

He DIDN'T NOTICE?

 

He didn't notice the most over face on the show?

 

MY God, this feud blows.

 

 

Obviously it wasn't an issue four months ago, so it shouldn't just randomly become an issue now.

Just because he didn't MENTION it 4 months ago doesn't mean it wasn't an issue!

It wasn't important enough for him to drop everything and take care of it when it was current.

 

It sure as hell aint important now.

 

I really don't buy him festering through world title matches so he can fight Eddy four months later.

[Jebus 0]

I thought Angle's game was to take Eddy out of the Rumble?

 

I'm paraphrasing here:

 

Kurt: "I just got Heyman to give u a match with Chavo at the Rumble! (slyly) Of course that means you can't be in the Rumble match itself but anyway..."

[AndrewTS 0]

I thought Angle's game was to take Eddy out of the Rumble?

 

I'm paraphrasing here:

 

Kurt: "I just got Heyman to give u a match with Chavo at the Rumble! (slyly) Of course that means you can't be in the Rumble match itself but anyway..."

Since when have wrestlers that have matches that night been forbidden to take part in the Rumble?

 

Anyone can be in the Rumble except for the WWE Champion and (presumably) Raw World Champion and their challengers.

[Guest JRE]

Since when have wrestlers that have matches that night been forbidden to take part in the Rumble?

 

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Probably since the roster got big enough to have it that way....

[AndrewTS 0]

Since when have wrestlers that have matches that night been forbidden to take part in the Rumble?

 

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Probably since the roster got big enough to have it that way....

Well, it didn't happen in 2003, sure, and I don't know about 2002, but up until then wrestlers would do double-duty all the time.

[Guest JRE]

As far as the beginning of the Angle/Eddy feud- I don't see what's so hard to understand.

 

For one thing...there was a reason given- Kurt's being his gold old American self that he's been since 1999 and trying to preach American family ideals. You just don't like that. I understand you want Angle to be Intensiangle that was shown in early 2003 and other various times- but his character's got much more depth than that. And in essense...the cocky american-ideal preaching Angle has always been there...and is needed to contrast the more intense character he sometimes becomes.

 

Second...you keep saying and saying that Angle came out of nowhere into this and doesn't belong in the Guerrero feud. Wow man, that's deep. Of course....that's also part of the storyline. Angle coming in for no good reason and stirring more problems into the Guerrero family- to eventually serve into his feud with Eddy.

 

EDIT: And oh yeah....is the WWE supposed to explain every aspect of human behavoir? I mean...Angle's a nosey guy- is that so hard to understand? I don't think it's that hard, as a viewer, to realize this stuff.

[Jebus 0]

Since when have wrestlers that have matches that night been forbidden to take part in the Rumble?

 

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Probably since the roster got big enough to have it that way....

back in the early days of the rumble (like 89 to 96) it was like that (ie: Ahmed Johnson and Jeff Jarrett didn't go the rumble after their 1 on 1 match in 96...same for Undertaker and I.R.S. in 95)

 

then in 97 it got forgotten because the roster wasn't big enough so IC Champ HHH and challenger Goldust were allowed to compete later as were Ahmed Johnson, Faarooq, Undertaker and Vader whom also had matches againt each other

[Guest Choken One]

That's because the roster was so small back in those days...

 

Here is a list of double duty performers

 

1992: Piper

1994:Tatanka, Bam Bam Bigelow, Bret and Owen Hart

1996: HHH and Duke Drosse

1997: HHH, Goldust, Vader, Taker, Farooq, Johnson

1998: The Rock, Shamrock

1999: Gunn, Shamrock, Gangrel, Xpac, Bossman and Bossman

2000:Jericho, Chyna, Holly, Gunn, Road Dogg, APA

2003: Brock Lesnar

[Guest Anglesault]

I thought Angle's game was to take Eddy out of the Rumble?

 

I'm paraphrasing here:

 

Kurt: "I just got Heyman to give u a match with Chavo at the Rumble! (slyly) Of course that means you can't be in the Rumble match itself but anyway..."

But why Eddy? Why not Benoit or Cena?

[Guest Choken One]

Because they already qualified while Eddy hadn't offically entered remember how eddy kept going "HEY! I'M GONNA ENTER THE RUMBLE!"

 

So, Angle made sure Eddy wasn't in it...

 

then you gotta ask...well why didn't he get TBS out of the rumble but that's just using logic.

[Guest JRE]

I thought Angle's game was to take Eddy out of the Rumble?

 

I'm paraphrasing here:

 

Kurt: "I just got Heyman to give u a match with Chavo at the Rumble! (slyly) Of course that means you can't be in the Rumble match itself but anyway..."

But why Eddy? Why not Benoit or Cena?

It's not necessarily about Angle purposely taking Eddy out of the Rumble. It's more about Angle's continued interference in Eddy's business- and a further reason for Eddy to hate Angle when the turn is made. Angle is simply ignorant to the fact that he doesn't know exactly what Eddy wants- but he thinks he does...

[Guest Anglesault]

As far as the beginning of the Angle/Eddy feud- I don't see what's so hard to understand.

 

For one thing...there was a reason given- Kurt's being his gold old American self that he's been since 1999 and trying to preach American family ideals.

The guy who tried to cheat on his wife with Stephanie McMahon and sacrificed his brother to Taker and Brock?

 

NEXT!

 

Second...you keep saying and saying that Angle came out of nowhere into this and doesn't belong in the Guerrero feud. Wow man, that's deep. Of course....that's also part of the storyline. Angle coming in for no good reason and stirring more problems into the Guerrero family- to eventually serve into his feud with Eddy.

 

But he has no reason to WANT problems in the Guerrero family!

[Guest JRE]

As far as the beginning of the Angle/Eddy feud- I don't see what's so hard to understand. 

 

For one thing...there was a reason given- Kurt's being his gold old American self that he's been since 1999 and trying to preach American family ideals.

The guy who tried to cheat on his wife with Stephanie McMahon and sacrificed his brother to Taker and Brock?

 

NEXT!

 

Second...you keep saying and saying that Angle came out of nowhere into this and doesn't belong in the Guerrero feud. Wow man, that's deep. Of course....that's also part of the storyline. Angle coming in for no good reason and stirring more problems into the Guerrero family- to eventually serve into his feud with Eddy.

 

But he has no reason to WANT problems in the Guerrero family!

Kurt Angle is also a hypocrite. Haven't you realized that yet?

 

Nope- he doesn't have reasons to want problems...but he also doesn't have the sense to realized that he failed in spreading his ideals and bringing them back together- so he won't quit and stay out.

[Bored 0]

What would you prefer he fued with A-Train? God damn who fucking cares? I wasn't big on the Eddie/Chavo feud at first but it has OWNED the last few weeks since Chavo finally turned and easily the best storyline going right now.

[Guest Anglesault]

What would you prefer he fued with A-Train?

I'd prefer he retires.

God damn who fucking cares?

I do. I want there to be a reason that people fight.

 

Nope- he doesn't have reasons to want problems...but he also doesn't have the sense to realized that he failed in spreading his ideals and bringing them back together- so he won't quit and stay out.

 

That makes Eddy look like a heel.

 

If Kurt is genuinely trying to help, Eddy looks like an ass for turning on him when he does.