Clarett Wins NFL Draft Challenge

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Anyone know any details about this bookie he has ties with?

[nl5xsk1 0]

the hitting in both basketball and hockey is minimal compared to the NFL.

 

Yeah, okay.

Hey, I'm among the few hockey fans on this board, and even I have to admit that a top running back gets hit more in a game than an NHL player does. Let's say Clarett averages 25 rushes a game (which would not be surprising). And maybe he scores 1 or even 2 touchdowns a game. That still leaves 23 carries carries where he's getting hit by at least one person, perhaps multiple people, at a time. And that doesn't include times that he gets hit when it's a play action pass, or when he's blocking. I can't think of too many NHL players that get hit 20+ times in one game.

 

If you want to get all picky, they wear less pads in the NHL. But notice I didn't mention anything about their protection, I only mentioned the quantity of hitting.

 

If I didn't think that the "smilies" were so lame, I'd throw the eye rolls right back at you and your doublepost.

[Guest MikeSC]

Well I mean the kid did have a point, that they can't deny you the right to pursue football as a career, i mean being a football player does not require a special license or level of education like say a doctor or lawyer. If NHL players can play at 18 and 19 and tennis players go pro at 15 years old, I don't see why a 19 kid can try to play in the NFL. I mean he probably will admit that he is not ready, but I respect him for fighting for what he thought was right, and I go to Michigan

Who says that the kid can't make a living in football?

 

He just can't do it in the NFL.

 

Arena League and CFL might take him.

 

The big problem here is that the age restriction was agreed to by both the league and union. How this violates monopoly laws I'll never get.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Im glad that he won. That means Fitzgerald is eligible too. Whats up with Clarett haters?

This ruling had no impact on Fitzgerald as the NFL was going to allow him to enter the draft and officially did today. There was just some technical issue of whether he did really meet the eligibily requirements and he did.

 

The main reason why people are hating on Clarett as if your fan of basketball you've seen college basketball be stripped of all of its star power due to players entering the NBA out of high school or being one year and done college players. By proxy the quality of play in the NBA has reached horrendous levels as most of these players are not ready to play at the NBA level. We as fans don't want to see the same thing happen to college football and/or the NFL.

Most of the high schoolers and some underclassmen of NBA have been successful players, some of the greats were underclassmen i.e Jordan, Magic, and Isaiah it wasn't a big deal back then. Yeah, the NBA is lacking fundementals but its not as bad as people think it is. I think over coaching and no floor space is more of a problem for the NBA.

Actually, A LOT of underclassmen don't MAKE the NBA and have their lives ruined by losing a college education. People don't seem to realize how many of these kids try to make the NBA.

 

The press, though, doesn't seem to want to cover the cautionary tales.

 

And a total lack of fundamentals has hurt the NBA badly. That's why teams are looking overseas for talent so much. Being athletic is VASTLY overrated.

 

They want a guy who can actually hit a shot.

-=Mike

[Damaramu 0]

Well I think this decision sucks.

Now we're going to have these kids running straight out of High School or playing 1 Year of College Ball and then packing up and heading for the NFL. I mean not only are they not mentally ready nor do they have the big game experience(i mean come on does your biggest high school game even compare to one game in the NFL? No. But your biggest college game compares to the playoffs at least) but they're also being deprived of tons of education and life experiences.

I mean Nate Hybl, the former QB for OU, has gone on record saying that he regrets graduating High School and heading straight for the Sooners training camp b/c he was deprived of the most important summer of any kids life. That summer after High School where you just plain have fun and do nothing before College. Anybody that's graduated can remember that Summer well, I know I do. And he says he regrets jumping straight into his football career and spending the entire summer working his ass off because he honestly didn't have any fun. Then he said that he's glad he finished College rather than packing up his Junior year. I mean sure Nate hasn't done anything in the NFL(he's on the Brown's Scout Team but then again he makes poor decisions as a QB so it's no shock) but he said that he would've missed out on so much more if he had left his Junior year. He said that last year of college is the best time of your life and he wouldn't have traded it for anything. He says so many guys miss out on it. Heck most people say College is the best time of their life.

But these kids are not only going to miss the greatest summer of their lives but they're also going to miss out on the whole College experience. I mean sure the NFL looks like fun but let's not forget that it is a career and it requires so much work that it's not even funny.

Kids coming out of High School to the NFL are going to head down the wrong path.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

And a total lack of fundamentals has hurt the NBA badly. That's why teams are looking overseas for talent so much. Being athletic is VASTLY overrated.

 

Everyone talks about a lack of fundamentals, but is that really true. There's more showmanship yes, but I don't think that translates to a lack of fundamentals. Shooting marks have hovered between 70% and 80% for the entire history of the league as far as I can tell. And if you look at old NBA games, you'll generally see MORE missed passes and other miscues.

[Art Sandusky 0]

You can say all you want about him being NFL size, but he's sure as hell never felt an NFL hit. It'll give him a harsh reality check. All that size talk goes out the window when he's popping eight different joints back into place.

[Brush with Greatness 0]

the hitting in both basketball and hockey is minimal compared to the NFL.

 

Yeah, okay.

Hey, I'm among the few hockey fans on this board, and even I have to admit that a top running back gets hit more in a game than an NHL player does. Let's say Clarett averages 25 rushes a game (which would not be surprising). And maybe he scores 1 or even 2 touchdowns a game. That still leaves 23 carries carries where he's getting hit by at least one person, perhaps multiple people, at a time. And that doesn't include times that he gets hit when it's a play action pass, or when he's blocking. I can't think of too many NHL players that get hit 20+ times in one game.

 

If you want to get all picky, they wear less pads in the NHL. But notice I didn't mention anything about their protection, I only mentioned the quantity of hitting.

 

If I didn't think that the "smilies" were so lame, I'd throw the eye rolls right back at you and your doublepost.

I definetly agree with you on the running back front (of which Clarett is) due to players at that position taking such a pounding just through repetition.

 

But as a whole, I would still disagree with you.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Well I think this decision sucks.

Now we're going to have these kids running straight out of High School or playing 1 Year of College Ball and then packing up and heading for the NFL. I mean not only are they not mentally ready nor do they have the big game experience(i mean come on does your biggest high school game even compare to one game in the NFL? No. But your biggest college game compares to the playoffs at least) but they're also being deprived of tons of education and life experiences.

I mean Nate Hybl, the former QB for OU, has gone on record saying that he regrets graduating High School and heading straight for the Sooners training camp b/c he was deprived of the most important summer of any kids life. That summer after High School where you just plain have fun and do nothing before College. Anybody that's graduated can remember that Summer well, I know I do. And he says he regrets jumping straight into his football career and spending the entire summer working his ass off because he honestly didn't have any fun. Then he said that he's glad he finished College rather than packing up his Junior year. I mean sure Nate hasn't done anything in the NFL(he's on the Brown's Scout Team but then again he makes poor decisions as a QB so it's no shock) but he said that he would've missed out on so much more if he had left his Junior year. He said that last year of college is the best time of your life and he wouldn't have traded it for anything. He says so many guys miss out on it. Heck most people say College is the best time of their life.

But these kids are not only going to miss the greatest summer of their lives but they're also going to miss out on the whole College experience. I mean sure the NFL looks like fun but let's not forget that it is a career and it requires so much work that it's not even funny.

Kids coming out of High School to the NFL are going to head down the wrong path.

Here's an idea: if these kids do try the NFL and don't make it, why can't they just go back to college, and get an education the way the rest of us do - work a summer job and take part time jobs during the semester to pay the bills? I don't see why we should be upset that these guys won't be getting a free ride through school on the taxpayer's dollar. And if they arn't good enough to go back and get an education without having the football team to fall back on, then I say to hell with them and leave the universities for the people who actually want to be there to get an education and not to entertain couch potatoes and rich boosters.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Anyone hear of any under classemen considering entering the draft? I'd say Mike Williams at USC would easily be a Top 10. He might even be better than Fitgerald.

[Guest MikeSC]

And a total lack of fundamentals has hurt the NBA badly. That's why teams are looking overseas for talent so much. Being athletic is VASTLY overrated.

 

Everyone talks about a lack of fundamentals, but is that really true. There's more showmanship yes, but I don't think that translates to a lack of fundamentals. Shooting marks have hovered between 70% and 80% for the entire history of the league as far as I can tell. And if you look at old NBA games, you'll generally see MORE missed passes and other miscues.

In the 80's, a team scoring 80 points would have been booed (or laughed) out of the building. Today, it is the norm.

 

Defense has not become THAT much tougher today.

 

The kids want to see themselves on SportsCenter, so they all dunk or just throw up 3's by the boatload.

 

The mid-range jumper is pretty much dead.

 

As many people have noted, Michael Jordan scored a ton of points via mid-range jumpers, but the kids never seemed to notice.

-=Mike

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Scoring was higer because they took more shots. The reason scoring is higher today is because more teams structure and plan plays, using the 24 second shot clock.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Al hit the nail on the head. Teams took more shots back in the 80's. You take more shots you make more basket, reach the foul line more, and hit more 3's.