Best Wrestlers Screwed By the Bussiness

[Guest MikeSC]

Bam Bam Bigelow - agile big man that was never really pushed that much in usa.

He was overweight and lazy for most of his American stints. I wouldn't have pushed him, either.

Alex Wright - looked like he was finally going to be the next big thing when he started out with the Berlyn gimmick, then the rug was pulled from underneath him.

The match with Duggan in his PPV debut did him no favors, that's for sure. Besides, it's Alex Wright. He's just not a star.

The New Breed (Sean Royal & Chris Champion) - looked like they were going to be the next great NWA tag team and then I'm not sure what happened.

Didn't Royal break his arm? He also retired and, well, the UWF sale came through during their mini-push (they had some blase US Tag Titles matches with the Midnights on house shows), so they just got lost.

-=Mike

[Guest Choken One]

Steamboat may have gotten screwed by Vince but he was worshipped in the NWA so he doesn't count.

 

I don't think Monsoon thought people would nitpick and care how old Steamboat's kid was.

He was Worshipped? Then why was Ricky Steamboat one of the WORST draws in NWA history and drew pathetic ratings during his title run?

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Steamboat may have gotten screwed by Vince but he was worshipped in the NWA so he doesn't count.

 

I don't think Monsoon thought people would nitpick and care how old Steamboat's kid was.

He was Worshipped? Then why was Ricky Steamboat one of the WORST draws in NWA history and drew pathetic ratings during his title run?

Was he not worshipped by the guys in the back? All I've ever heard from wrestlers that worked with himk was how great he was in the ring. Since I put Vince down before the NWA thing I believe I was clearly talking about the backstage stuff.

 

Context clues.

[notJames 0]

Owen Hart springs to mind. He had such great skills and truly became under-appreciated by nearly everyone - myself included. He definately deserved a run with the World Title.

He's the first person I thought of, although he was held back more for his size at the beginning. Once Bret was in the spotlight and was allowed to bring Owen along with him, I was almost positive it would have thrust him permanently into the ME. Clique happens, I guess.

 

That Owen Driver '97 probably didn't help matters, either.

[Guest MikeSC]

Owen Hart springs to mind.  He had such great skills and truly became under-appreciated by nearly everyone - myself included.  He definately deserved a run with the World Title.

He's the first person I thought of, although he was held back more for his size at the beginning. Once Bret was in the spotlight and was allowed to bring Owen along with him, I was almost positive it would have thrust him permanently into the ME. Clique happens, I guess.

 

That Owen Driver '97 probably didn't help matters, either.

Let's be honest, folks.

 

Owen couldn't draw heat without kerosene and matches.

 

It is a little old to hear the "Owen love" when nobody gave a dang about him when he was alive.

-=Mike

[OldSchoolWrestling 0]

The New Breed (Sean Royal & Chris Champion) - looked like they were going to be the next great NWA tag team and then I'm not sure what happened.

Didn't Royal break his arm? He also retired and, well, the UWF sale came through during their mini-push (they had some blase US Tag Titles matches with the Midnights on house shows), so they just got lost.

-=Mike

They were in a car accident as they were being pushed and that was it for them.

[DangerousDamon 0]

Owen Hart springs to mind.  He had such great skills and truly became under-appreciated by nearly everyone - myself included.  He definately deserved a run with the World Title.

He's the first person I thought of, although he was held back more for his size at the beginning. Once Bret was in the spotlight and was allowed to bring Owen along with him, I was almost positive it would have thrust him permanently into the ME. Clique happens, I guess.

 

That Owen Driver '97 probably didn't help matters, either.

Let's be honest, folks.

 

Owen couldn't draw heat without kerosene and matches.

 

It is a little old to hear the "Owen love" when nobody gave a dang about him when he was alive.

-=Mike

How would know if Owen couldn't have been a draw?

[Guest MikeSC]

Owen Hart springs to mind.  He had such great skills and truly became under-appreciated by nearly everyone - myself included.  He definately deserved a run with the World Title.

He's the first person I thought of, although he was held back more for his size at the beginning. Once Bret was in the spotlight and was allowed to bring Owen along with him, I was almost positive it would have thrust him permanently into the ME. Clique happens, I guess.

 

That Owen Driver '97 probably didn't help matters, either.

Let's be honest, folks.

 

Owen couldn't draw heat without kerosene and matches.

 

It is a little old to hear the "Owen love" when nobody gave a dang about him when he was alive.

-=Mike

How would know if Owen couldn't have been a draw?

How would I know?

 

I actually watched the WWF when he was there.

 

Owen was met with the kind of apathy that people claim Randy Orton deals with.

-=Mike

[Guest The Midnight Rocking Warrior]

( Beavis mode) Damnit! It's not fair! Sting did so much and he'll never make the WON hall of Fame! Damnit, that's the real hall of fame! And Luger first by Flair, then by Hogan ( Even though I'm one of Hogan's biggest fans.). Dibiase is one of my all-time favorites, and Jake Roberts was turned face after fans cheered him against Hogan.

[spman 0]

Bam Bam Bigelow - agile big man that was never really pushed that much in usa.

He was overweight and lazy for most of his American stints. I wouldn't have pushed him, either.

Bam Bam was a really good worker considering his size. He was scheduled for a big Main Event run in both 1987 and 1995 and was screwed by Politics both times. As for his being lazy int he ring, when you're reduced to never ending feuds with Doink the Clown and Men on a Mission, tossed into Ted Debiase's Heat Vacuum Corporation storyline, and then forced to job to a non-worker at the biggest show of the year, you'd lose your motivation to put fourth effort too.

[lomasmoney 0]

Owen Hart springs to mind.  He had such great skills and truly became under-appreciated by nearly everyone - myself included.  He definately deserved a run with the World Title.

He's the first person I thought of, although he was held back more for his size at the beginning. Once Bret was in the spotlight and was allowed to bring Owen along with him, I was almost positive it would have thrust him permanently into the ME. Clique happens, I guess.

 

That Owen Driver '97 probably didn't help matters, either.

Let's be honest, folks.

 

Owen couldn't draw heat without kerosene and matches.

 

It is a little old to hear the "Owen love" when nobody gave a dang about him when he was alive.

-=Mike

How would know if Owen couldn't have been a draw?

How would I know?

 

I actually watched the WWF when he was there.

 

Owen was met with the kind of apathy that people claim Randy Orton deals with.

-=Mike

So you mean Owen wasn't hated as the annoying little piece of shit brother from 94-95 ?

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

Barry Windham seemed to have never been pushed properly as a real main eventer, which is a shame because he was damn good in the 80s and early 90s. After watching his awesome matches with Flair from 1987, I'm shocked Flair wouldn't drop the title to him instead of RON FUCKIG GARVIN.

Garvin got the belt because he was the only one that would take it. Flair wanted to drop the belt to somebody, so he could win it back at Starrcade that year and boost hype for the show. Everyone knew it would be a token reign and didn't want to do it. Garvin realized that this was close as he would ever get to being a main eventer and knew he could cost on the brief title reign for the rest of his career. After Garvin did win, no one would put him over and he never defended the belt until he dropped it back to Flair.

I don't understand why not. A lameduck reign or not, it's still a short reign as World champion with a likely good payoff. I would have done it.

[justcoz 0]

How would I know?

 

I actually watched the WWF when he was there.

 

Owen was met with the kind of apathy that people claim Randy Orton deals with.

 

Owen's biggest chance of being over big time was after the Bret Montreal incident. People were curious as to whether Owen was leaving the company and it was a suprise when he returned, came through the crowd and attackd DX. He received one hell of a pop. Owen chants, the whole works. He cut a really good promo christianing himself as the "Black Heart" and was then jobbed out in matches against Michaels and Helmsley if I recall.

 

I know what you're saying about crowds being apathetic towards Owen during most of his run. He had big time heat during his Bret feud and then it died down. He started getting heat again during the Hart Foundation run with his Slammy shtick but that ended with Montreal. He could have been insanely over as a babyface with the "Black Heart" role following Montreal, IMO. They wasted it and from then on out the most heat he could get was the "Nugget" chants.

 

Listen to the Pittsburgh music scene...

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Owen got mad heat as a heel wherever he went. His face turn was a flop, but as a heel? Man, he was automatic. I've completely lost all respect for MikeSC's wrestling knowledge. For shame!