Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Roberts and Savage was the hugest feud of late 91 and early 92 and that match surprisingly never happened at Wrestlemania. Dibiase and Hogan gets close mention as well w/ the whole buying the title thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Hogan-Mr. Perfect. Six months of buildup to get blown off in a meaningless Saturday Night's Main Event match a month after WrestleMania VI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 I have to say Rock/Foley, HHH/Austin, Taker/Foley, Hogan/Dibiase, HHH/Rock,HHH/Rock McMahon/Austin and Austin/Angle are the biggest ones. I still question why they felt Rock/Austin would be better for WMX7 then HHH/Austin (which got the NWO match)...HHH/Austin had that epic thing going and then suddenly they shifted gears and put in two old rivals who suddenly remembered they hate each other...I don't Think HHH/Austin would have done any less as far as BUYRATES were concerned esp since it was such a Hot Blood feud at the time and even better would be that it wouldn't need a fucking Title Match and they could have saved Rock/Angle for Mania with Rock winning the title that night instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Roberts and Savage was the hugest feud of late 91 and early 92 and that match surprisingly never happened at Wrestlemania. Dibiase and Hogan gets close mention as well w/ the whole buying the title thing. I do believe it was supposed to get blown off at WM8 before they changed it around to Savage/Flair and Hogan/Sid. Which begs the question...If Hogan/Flair and Savage/Roberts was initally booked...What was Sid supposed to be doing? I doubt they would have fed him to Undertaker that early...or given him a squash match against a No-Namer (since Bret and Piper were next on the totem pole after Hogan and Savage and they were busy that night hitting ****)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 I think that Davey or Bossman would have been fed to Sid.....and history would have been changed forever w/o Sid leaving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Davey seems logical since he was nicely built in the Rumble going head to head with Flair for a good 25 minutes and Bossman was still over and the feud would have been easy to set up as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Notice that even though WrestleMania VIII was an awesome card, the original lineup still sounds better? The WWF was feeling it in early-1992. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 I'd say that they were feeling it from the time Flair got there until the time that he left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Hogan/Flair Savage/Roberts Hart/Piper Sid/Davey Boy Vs Savage/Flair Hogan/Sid Hart/Piper Taker/Roberts Either way it sounded good but Hogan/Flair would meant more and Savage/Roberts was an INSANELY brilliant angle that rightfully deserved a HUGE blowoff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 But instead all it got was a short match on Saturday Night's Main Event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 I'd say that they were feeling it from the time Flair got there until the time that he left. 1992 was an amazing year as ALL ppv's had at least a ****+ match along with great angles ***** Rumble with classic Piper Victory Flair/Savage ****3/4 with the incredible storyline Hart/Piper ****1/4 The Perfect Angle with Perfect and Flair in "cahoots" with Warrior or Savage Savage/Warrior **** Bulldog/Hart ***** Flair cheating like a mofo winning the title back by KILLING savage's leg Bret's SHOCKING upset to win the title The PERFECT TEAM angle...With Perfect giving one of the all time great face turn promos ever on Heenan on Prime Time...Classic Dueling Promos between Flair/Razor Vs The Perfect Team... Shawn/Bret ****1/4 Emergence of Yokozuna and it Ironicaly and rightfull ended that streak of awesomeness the SECOND Flair laid down to Perfect in a **** Loser Leaves Town Match... I really wish Vince kept Flair around until WMIX for the Perfect/Flair blowoff...Where Perfect could have stayed a hot face and fought Yokozuna during that summer instead of Luger, who should have stayed the Narcassiant and then gone with putting the title on Perfect and give Perfect/Luger a push and put the title on the brash cocky arrogant Luger for Bret to beat at WMX. But as we know all well enough about Hindsight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 20, 2004 But instead all it got was a short match on Saturday Night's Main Event. I find it funny that Savage won the Tuesday in Texas match clean in lke 6:00, then I think won the SNME match. Poor Roberts never got a fair shake in the ring when it was official vs. Savage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 But instead all it got was a short match on Saturday Night's Main Event. that little 6 minute match packed more intensity and drama then any 35 minute match HHH could ever hope to capture...and the post match stuff was even more amazing and mind-boggling... Why ever did Vince let the insanely awesome Heel Jake just walk away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 I wonder what would have happened had Sid not left after WM VIII....would we have had a **** match on every PPV if he had been there???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Was Undertaker/Rock even that big? I think they had two one month feuds, three years apart. Thats even weirder. Two Main Eventers for the past 5 years (in UT's case, too lnog to count) have rarely feuded. They've had their fair share of matches with each other. Unforgiven 2000 That was more of two big feuds (Taker/Kane and Benoit/Rock) being shoved into one match than Taker/Rock feuding. Well, yeah, but Rock and Taker also had their own problems leading into the match. I remember Taker chokeslamming Rock on a Smackdown or Raw right before the PPV. They may not have been feuding directly, but they were still involved in a feud against each other and fought one another on a PPV. I would still consider that a feud, although it may be a more minor case than the others. Randy Savage and Jake The Snake also had a relatively nice, long feud - but I don't recall them wrestling each other at WrestleMania. The trouble with Rock/Taker with they were 2 week long feuds that meant shit. Just something for them to do. I don't remember any real "build up" other than "bad guy attacks good guy after good guy costs him a match". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Why ever did Vince let the insanely awesome Heel Jake just walk away? That was the time when his body started going to shit and Vince didn't want to push somebody that he could lose at any time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Only people Austin has faced at a WrestleMania are Bret Hart Shawn Michaels The Rock Scott Hall and... Savio Vega How many times will you hear Savio Vega's name mentioned in a group like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Only people Austin has faced at a WrestleMania are Bret Hart Shawn Michaels The Rock Scott Hall and... Savio Vega How many times will you hear Savio Vega's name mentioned in a group like that? discussing 1996 WWF Roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Savio Vega has actually faced some big names on PPV...but I'm too lazy to find the evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Giving off the Roster doesn't count. I meant serious groupings where people can say "He was one of (insert number) to (insert meaningful thing)" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Giving off the Roster doesn't count. I meant serious groupings where people can say "He was one of (insert number) to (insert meaningful thing)" Uh....Savio fought future WWF Champ The Rock on a 1997 PPV lol. Otherwise, nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 He was one of many wrestlers to lose in the King of the Ring final. If that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Giving off the Roster doesn't count. I meant serious groupings where people can say "He was one of (insert number) to (insert meaningful thing)" they were all apart of Factions Bret=Hart Foundation and NWO HBK-DX The Rock-Nation Hall-NWO and WolfPac Savio-Los Bouricas (sp?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 He was one of many wrestlers to lose in the King of the Ring final. If that helps. Save for Shawn...All those guys made the KOTR finals Bret-1993 Hall-1994 The Rock-1998 Savio-1995 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 20, 2004 That's kind of weird that Shawn was never King of the Ring. Weirder he never even made the finals. They should have put him in the KotR tournament rather than waste him on Papa KamaFather in 95. King Mabel was horrid and it would have been better to have Shawn as King. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 But if Shawn would have won King of the Ring, we wouldn't be able to look so fondly on the Diesel-Mabel SummerSlam main event! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Even weirder fact....a KOTR winner has main evented Wrestlemania since 1997 and that will not change again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted February 20, 2004 He was one of many wrestlers to lose in the King of the Ring final. If that helps. DON'T REMIND ME. He lost to Mabel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted February 20, 2004 That's kind of weird that Shawn was never King of the Ring. Weirder he never even made the finals. They should have put him in the KotR tournament rather than waste him on Papa KamaFather in 95. King Mabel was horrid and it would have been better to have Shawn as King. Shawn vs. Yokozuna was my bet on the final. Leave it to Vince to fuck it up worse than anyone could have imagined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Even weirder fact....a KOTR winner has main evented Wrestlemania since 1997 and that will not change again. when did SID and Undertaker win the KOTR? Unless you mean 1997's Winner (hhh)... 1998-Austin(KOTR winner) Vs HBK 1999-Austin(KOTR WINNER) Vs Rock(runner up) 2000-HHH(kotr winner) Vs Foley (runner up) Vs Rock (runner up) Vs TBS 2001-Austin (winner) Vs Rock (runner up) 2002-HHH (Winner) Vs Jericho 2003- Brock (winner) Vs Angle (winner) and 2004 will continue the streak as well Either it be HHH (winner) Vs Benoit Vs HBK, or Angle (winner) Vs Eddy or even 'Berg Vs Brock (winner)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
