Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Statement by George M. Steinbrenner Principal owner, New York Yankees on comments by Boston Red Sox owner John Henry "We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston. It is understandable, but wrong that he would try to deflect the accountability for his mistakes on to others and to a system for which he voted in favor. It is time to get on with life and forget the sour grapes." I believe the youngsters would say something like "owned" right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I have newfound respect for the Boss after that statement. That is ownage in the first degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Even I gotta admit, point - set - match to the Devil although I still think that the Yankees MUST address their pitching needs(esp. after looking at my most recent post in the Retired 42 thread) if they want a chance to win the World Series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I believe the youngsters would say something like "owned" right now. No. I'd be saying the Boss just tossed the Idiot the shovel to continue his own hole he made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I hope the Red Sox guy responds with "Well....YOU'RE STUPID!" It must suck to get so publicly bitch slapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I believe the youngsters would say something like "owned" right now. Got plenty more where that came from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Great response by Steinbrenner. I am one of the rare people who is indifferent to the Yankees. I have no "gotta love them or hate them" feelings. That being said its a shame the best record can't play the WC if they're in the same division so one can beat the other, and then lose to the Angels in the ALCS, so all the manuvering was for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Red Sox Nation on Red Alert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Henry fires BACK~! "I've been asked by the Commissioner to not respond to the New York Yankees' comments today," Henry said. "I've agreed and will abide by that request. "The anticipation about the 2004 season is at an all-time high. So let's shift our sights to the field. Let the games begin." Henry: Yeah? Well, uhm, uh---I'm gonna be the better man and walk away! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Great response by Steinbrenner. I am one of the rare people who is indifferent to the Yankees. I have no "gotta love them or hate them" feelings. That being said its a shame the best record can't play the WC if they're in the same division so one can beat the other, and then lose to the Angels in the ALCS, so all the manuvering was for nothing. I fit into that category has well. Actually I liked the during the the 3 championships. Loved how that team played, how it came together. A team in every sense of the word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I am one of the rare people who is indifferent to the Yankees. I have no "gotta love them or hate them" feelings. It's not the Yankees themselves that I root against, it's their fans that rub me the wrong way. For the most part I'm apathetic about baseball, so a certain team winning (or losing) doesn't bother me or fire me up too much. But having known so many belligerent Yankees fans in my life, it was hard not to start rooting against the team that they rooted for. I normally root against the Red Sox, too, for the same reason (nothing in this world pisses me off more than Yankees Suck chants ... especially when it happens at a Bruins game, or a Pats game, or even at Fenway when it's not a Sox-Yanks game. Fucking meatheads overusing that stupid chant). But big points to Steinbrenner ... perfect comeback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think everyone who tries to hate yankee fans and boston fans in such a generalizing way is just mad he's not a part of the greatest sports rivalry of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think everyone who tries to hate yankee fans and boston fans in such a generalizing way is just mad he's not a part of the greatest sports rivalry of all time. Ghettoman, just the opposite: I'm mad that I'm STUCK IN THE MIDDLE of the greatest sports rivalry of all time. I'm a diehard Bruins and Pats fan, yet have to listen to the jackasses on sports radio talk about the Red Sox 365 days of the year. The Pats win 2 of 3 Super Bowls, yet trade rumors get most of the airtime. I'd give anything to be able to avoid "Evil Empire" talk for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Ah, I see the problem. It's not really like that on the other end of the stick unless something like the A-rod deal happens over here, our lovable losers get all kinds of talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think everyone who tries to hate yankee fans and boston fans in such a generalizing way is just mad he's not a part of the greatest sports rivalry of all time. No, I think it is statements like this where it automatically becomes jealousy about not being included in the greatest rivalry ever yet one team has a .550 winning percentage against the other with 26 world series wins while the other has......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted February 19, 2004 The guy with the second largest payroll in baseball doesn't have the right to complain about the first. If Oakland or an actual smaller market wants to say that sort of thing, it would make so much more sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think the lopsided way it's gone just show how strong the rivalry is. In anyother case, it wouldn't be a rivalry, it would be one teams constant whooping of another, but it's not like that. It's like both are equals, only one's more blue collar and the others more upscale in terms of what it's gotten. It's set the stage for characters and roles, and off seasons like this where instead of competing with 30 other teams there competing against eachother. I don't look at the Red Sox as some big loser to our awesome winner, to me there equals who got the short end of the stick and are trying to pull the long side to them, and it's making for some great baseball. And after last years ALCS, come on. Things clearly aren't the lopsided affair it's been for quite some time. When people sit there and act like there so bothered by it yet maintain this interest, what else can one assume but there simply bitter or jealous of the situation? I mean they would't be bitching if there team was in something similar, would they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think Yogi Berra said it best, to Bernie Williams during the 1999 ALCS: "Relax. We've been playing these guys for 80 years - they're never gonna beat us." Pretty much sums it up right there. I am not a Yankee fan at all, but 26 world championships speak for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think that Yogi Berra quote bests just about anything either side could possibly say about the other. Still, I became an unofficial Red Sox fan this year thanks to personal associations and always feeling sorry for the loser of any great series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think Yogi Berra said it best, to Bernie Williams during the 1999 ALCS: "Relax. We've been playing these guys for 80 years - they're never gonna beat us." Pretty much sums it up right there. I am not a Yankee fan at all, but 26 world championships speak for themselves. Ya gotta love Yogi. And it's actually kind of funny. With all the bizarre, indecipherable quotes from Yogi over the years, this one, IMO, is very clear and to the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think the lopsided way it's gone just show how strong the rivalry is. In anyother case, it wouldn't be a rivalry, it would be one teams constant whooping of another, but it's not like that. It's like both are equals, only one's more blue collar and the others more upscale in terms of what it's gotten. It's set the stage for characters and roles, and off seasons like this where instead of competing with 30 other teams there competing against eachother. I don't look at the Red Sox as some big loser to our awesome winner, to me there equals who got the short end of the stick and are trying to pull the long side to them, and it's making for some great baseball. And after last years ALCS, come on. Things clearly aren't the lopsided affair it's been for quite some time. When people sit there and act like there so bothered by it yet maintain this interest, what else can one assume but there simply bitter or jealous of the situation? I mean they would't be bitching if there team was in something similar, would they? I think ESPN Radio's Chris Moore had the perfect line about this: "Calling the Yankees v Red Sox a rivalry is like saying that the nail has a rivalry with the hammer." -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think the lopsided way it's gone just show how strong the rivalry is. In anyother case, it wouldn't be a rivalry, it would be one teams constant whooping of another, but it's not like that. It's like both are equals, only one's more blue collar and the others more upscale in terms of what it's gotten. It's set the stage for characters and roles, and off seasons like this where instead of competing with 30 other teams there competing against eachother. I don't look at the Red Sox as some big loser to our awesome winner, to me there equals who got the short end of the stick and are trying to pull the long side to them, and it's making for some great baseball. And after last years ALCS, come on. Things clearly aren't the lopsided affair it's been for quite some time. When people sit there and act like there so bothered by it yet maintain this interest, what else can one assume but there simply bitter or jealous of the situation? I mean they would't be bitching if there team was in something similar, would they? I think ESPN Radio's Chris Moore had the perfect line about this: "Calling the Yankees v Red Sox a rivalry is like saying that the nail has a rivalry with the hammer." -=Mike That's no treally fair. People always seem to forget that although they never, ever, ever win, The Red Sox are almost always the strongest challenge to the Yankees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I have newfound respect for the Boss after that statement. That is ownage in the first degree. Eh, Steinbrenner and the Yankees are still evil. That doesn't mean his statement isn't true, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I think the lopsided way it's gone just show how strong the rivalry is. In anyother case, it wouldn't be a rivalry, it would be one teams constant whooping of another, but it's not like that. It's like both are equals, only one's more blue collar and the others more upscale in terms of what it's gotten. It's set the stage for characters and roles, and off seasons like this where instead of competing with 30 other teams there competing against eachother. I don't look at the Red Sox as some big loser to our awesome winner, to me there equals who got the short end of the stick and are trying to pull the long side to them, and it's making for some great baseball. And after last years ALCS, come on. Things clearly aren't the lopsided affair it's been for quite some time. When people sit there and act like there so bothered by it yet maintain this interest, what else can one assume but there simply bitter or jealous of the situation? I mean they would't be bitching if there team was in something similar, would they? I think ESPN Radio's Chris Moore had the perfect line about this: "Calling the Yankees v Red Sox a rivalry is like saying that the nail has a rivalry with the hammer." -=Mike That's no treally fair. People always seem to forget that although they never, ever, ever win, The Red Sox are almost always the strongest challenge to the Yankees. BUT, if they, and I quote, "Never, ever win" --- how is it a rivalry? It's simply a running BUTT-kicking. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 IMO, it'll soon become a more heated rivalry in terms of the Red Sox putting up a very fair fight and possibly beating them. Hell, the Sox came with-in 5 outs last year of possibly heading to the WS so it's not exactly like the Yankees will always dominate the Sox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 IMO, it'll soon become a more heated rivalry in terms of the Red Sox putting up a very fair fight and possibly beating them. Hell, the Sox came with-in 5 outs last year of possibly heading to the WS so it's not exactly like the Yankees will always dominate the Sox. I wouldn't use that as an example. It's not like the rivalry has been based on the Yankees always being such a better team that they squash the Sawx like bugs everytime. It's always been two really good teams going head to head, in games where the Yankees manage to get the duke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 IMO, it'll soon become a more heated rivalry in terms of the Red Sox putting up a very fair fight and possibly beating them. Hell, the Sox came with-in 5 outs last year of possibly heading to the WS so it's not exactly like the Yankees will always dominate the Sox. I wouldn't use that as an example. It's not like the rivalry has been based on the Yankees always being such a better team that they squash the Sawx like bugs everytime. It's always been two really good teams going head to head, in games where the Yankees manage to get the duke. It'll be interesting to listen to the reactions from both sides when the Sox finally win one (if the Sox finally win one). I'm sure lots of Sox fans will thump their chests and brag, and lots of Yanks fans will point out that it's still just one win. But even having the Sox win just one time will change the dynamic to the entire rivalry. Too bad most of baseball, and most non-NY and Boston fans, will still hate both teams with too much of a passion to enjoy most of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Win the big one as in beat the Yankees, or win the big one as in win the world series? Because, IMHO, The Red Sox (and for that matter, the Cubs) winning the world series would be absolutely horrible for baseball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Win the big one as in beat the Yankees, or win the big one as in win the world series? Because, IMHO, The Red Sox (and for that matter, the Cubs) winning the world series would be absolutely horrible for baseball. Agreed. One of the appeal of baseball is seeing Cubs and Red Sox be the lovable losers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Win the big one as in beat the Yankees, or win the big one as in win the world series? Because, IMHO, The Red Sox (and for that matter, the Cubs) winning the world series would be absolutely horrible for baseball. I meant winning a World Series. My apologies for leaving it so open-ended (and it's what I get for not re-reading what I wrote before posting it). Having said that, though, I think that there are probably a lot of Sox fans that would choose beating the Yankees in the ALCS and then losing the World Series over winning the Series but not getting to beat the Yankees to get there. And I disagree that it'd be bad for baseball if either the Red Sox or Cubs win it all. There's still other "jinxed" teams (Indians, for example) that could carry the mantle moving forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites