McCain predicts '04 election...

[Guest thebigjig]

Interesting article... looks like things are going to get UGLY... of course, we knew that

 

CNN.com

 

Bush campaign goes after Kerry

McCain predicts 'nastiest campaign we've ever seen'

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- On the first weekend since the presidential race was whittled down to a matchup between President Bush and presumptive Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry, the Bush campaign took aim at Kerry, making clear its chief lines of attack.

 

Speaking on the Sunday talk shows, Bush supporters depicted the senator from Massachusetts as an extreme liberal who flip-flops on issues, is weak on security and would raise taxes if elected.

 

Kerry supporters painted Bush as stubbornly sticking to failed economic and foreign policies, failing to deliver on promises and -- citing his controversial new television ads as examples -- being "a divider and not a uniter."

 

The wrangling on all those fronts could last the next eight months.

 

"I think this is going to be probably the nastiest campaign we've ever seen from both sides because of the polarization that exists in politics today," Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona said on ABC's "This Week."

 

The efforts against Kerry follow what Bush spokespeople call months of anti-Bush campaigning by the Democratic presidential hopefuls.

 

"We're just going to talk about his record," Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot said on "Fox News Sunday." "He's headed in the wrong direction. He has been for 19 years, and he would lead this country in the wrong direction."

 

Racicot said Kerry would raise taxes if elected and complained about several of Kerry's Senate votes.

 

He also said that though Kerry voted in 2002 to support military action as an option against Iraq, he voted against an $87 billion supplemental spending bill late last year.

 

Racicot said the bill "did everything from provide hazard pay for our troops in Iraq to body armor for our troops in Iraq. ... Now, that's the kind of record that the American people need to know about."

 

On NBC's "Meet the Press," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a Republican, said Kerry "seems to be in honest confusion about what his position is" on the war on terror.

 

Bush himself accused Kerry of waffling on such major issues in a speech to Republican governors in Washington last month. (Full story)

 

"The way we're going to deal with those attacks is by taking them head on," Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Kerry, said on "This Week."

 

"John Kerry has a 35-year consistent record of fighting for people. ... And we welcome the debate," Devine said.

 

Devine said Bush "ran saying that he was going to not return us to deficit spending. He has.

 

"He pledged not to stick his hand, the hand of government, into the Social Security trust. They have taken $150 billion out of it this year in order to pay for expenses. The president has changed his position on a broad range of issues."

 

Kerry's fellow senator from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy, told CNN's "Late Edition" that Kerry voted in favor of the 2002 resolution on Iraq only after hearing "distortion" and "misrepresentation" from the administration about the threat from Saddam Hussein's regime.

 

If Kerry had been president, Kennedy said, "we never would have gone to war. We would have mobilized the international community. We would have isolated and contained Saddam Hussein."

 

Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter told CNN's "Inside Politics "that Kerry "would have been happy to vote for" the $87 billion in supplemental funding for Iraq "if, A, we could have paid for it, and, B, we had a responsible policy in Iraq."

 

On taxes, she said, "You hear the same old arguments from Republicans about what Democrats are going to do the fix the economy.

 

"And the fact is, every time this president has ... tried to fix the economy, he's got the same answer -- more and more tax cuts. Clearly it's not working."

 

Cutter referred to the latest jobs report from the Labor Department that showed 21,000 jobs were created last month -- nearly 200,000 short of the White House's monthly forecast.

 

"We need to get Americans working again. We're not going to do that with tax cuts for the wealthy. We need to invest in middle America," Cutter said.

 

Racicot said the growth is part of an upswing.

 

Kerry's supporters also sought to fend off complaints that his politics are far left of mainstream America.

 

Giuliani was among those issuing that charge Sunday, telling NBC that a vote for Kerry would be "a vote for the most liberal member of the United States Senate."

 

Ed Rendell, Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, reacted angrily to those accusations on CBS's "Face the Nation."

 

"How dare they say that John Kerry is liberal when they have run up the biggest deficit in the history of this country?" Rendell said.

 

"How dare they say things like that when John Kerry supported them on a number of different things and a lot of Democratic senators didn't. If I were John Kerry, my head would be spinning."

 

Both sides battled over the Bush campaign's first wave of television advertising, which includes images of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, that some victims' family members have deemed offensive. (Full story)

 

Racicot defended the ads, saying Bush had the right to remind people of his leadership during that time. Devine said the ads were "just the latest example of the way this president has been a divider and not a uniter."

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Gee, I hope nobody's feelings gets hurt.

 

For some reason I'm quite sure there have been worse elections, especially back in the day...

[Guest thebigjig]

Gee, I hope nobody's feelings gets hurt.

 

For some reason I'm quite sure there have been worse elections, especially back in the day...

I dont know... the country has never been this polarized

 

Either way, it should be exciting... can't wait until the debates here get just as ugly lol

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I miss the days of presidents dealing with pistols at ten paces, and that sort of thing. THAT's the kind of guy I want to vote for.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I dont know... the country has never been this polarized

*cough*civilwar*cough...*

[Guest thebigjig]

I dont know... the country has never been this polarized

*cough*civilwar*cough...*

lol good point

 

*Theodore Roosevelt mode* bully!

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

You want bully, you got it (my post with the article in it pretty much sums up what I think about topics like these)...

 

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...5405&hl=you+win

[Guest thebigjig]

fascinating read

 

Okay okay, it wont be the dirtiest election in history, but it will probably be the dirtiest in modern history... and if we dissagree there, than surely we can settle on: really really really really nasty and/or unpleasant

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

No. I'm right and you're wrong.

 

And if you say otherwise I'm going to accuse you of questioning my patriotism...

[Guest thebigjig]

No. I'm right and you're wrong.

 

And if you say otherwise I'm going to accuse you of questioning my patriotism...

but I'm a Vietnam Veteran, and I command respect damnit!

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I'm a... I'm a...

 

uhhh...

 

Well, I'm taking my one cat to the vet this week -- but it's not in Vietnam...

[Guest thebigjig]

I'm a... I'm a...

 

uhhh...

 

Well, I'm taking my one cat to the vet this week -- but it's not in Vietnam...

Well... you could always talk about your dangerous journey to said vet... and about how, by doing so, you saved the life of the cat... and along the way, you walked an old lady across the street, saved a horse from a burning barn, taught a poor african american kid how to read, and proposed a new medicare bill that was shot down by republicans... a bill that would help people like...

 

Mr. and Mrs. Robert Starckson from Boise, Idaho, whose perscriptions total...

[Guest Cerebus]

I'm a... I'm a...

 

uhhh...

 

Well, I'm taking my one cat to the vet this week -- but it's not in Vietnam...

Well... you could always talk about your dangerous journey to said vet... and about how, by doing so, you saved the life of the cat... and along the way, you walked an old lady across the street, saved a horse from a burning barn, taught a poor african american kid how to read, and proposed a new medicare bill that was shot down by republicans... a bill that would help people like...

 

Mr. and Mrs. Robert Starckson from Boise, Idaho, whose perscriptions total...

Don't forget that you also took the initiative of inventing the internet at some point during your walk.

[Guest thebigjig]

I'm a... I'm a...

 

uhhh...

 

Well, I'm taking my one cat to the vet this week -- but it's not in Vietnam...

Well... you could always talk about your dangerous journey to said vet... and about how, by doing so, you saved the life of the cat... and along the way, you walked an old lady across the street, saved a horse from a burning barn, taught a poor african american kid how to read, and proposed a new medicare bill that was shot down by republicans... a bill that would help people like...

 

Mr. and Mrs. Robert Starckson from Boise, Idaho, whose perscriptions total...

Don't forget that you also took the initiative of inventing the internet at some point during your walk.

God I hope Kerry doesnt use the Gore-technique on a regular basis... it's so freakin' annoying

[Ripper 0]

You think it will get uglier that THIS in 2000? I doubt it.

 

Bush campaign goes after Gore

Gore camp 'Oh it's on now'

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It seems that the presidential race has taken an ugly turn.

 

Last week, due to a scheduling goof, Democratic nominee Al Gore and Republican nominee George Bush, Jr. were both slated to give an speech at Georgia State University. 

 

Both camps agreed to share the time, with the Gore camp allowing Bush to give his speech first.  Things seemed to be going civil enough at first.  It wasn't until later that the stage sharing turned ugly.

 

"Bush was talking about his economic plan and Mr. Gore did a "bulls**t cough"." Said Emily Johnson, a junior at the school.   "Mr. Bush looked over and gave him a mean look and then started back talking."

 

But the words that followed were not about Bush's economic plan.

 

"...and I will definitely do a better job leading the country than this scrotum sucking ball licker over here!" Bush shouted as he pointed to Gore. 

 

Enraged, Gore grabbed an additional microphone and began to shout expletives to the shock and horror of the crowd. 

 

"He called Bush a crab infested d*ck hole." said Ephram Jackson. "I had to explain to my son what it meant to be crab infested...he already knew what a dick hole was.  We are very open about our bodies in our family" he added before he was arrested seconds later.

 

Things came to a head when Bush told Gore "I'd f*ck my dog before I put it in that fat b*tch!" as he pointed at Gore's wife Tipper, who was having a verbal spat with Bush's wife, Laura, at the same time, reportedly yelling "I will grab my gat and pull a 187 on yo ass patna!"

 

Gore responded by suggesting that Bush's mother didn't think Tipper was fat when she was engaged win a threesome with the two (Mr. Gore and Tipper) the previous night. 

 

Punches were then thrown but the fight was quickly broken up by campus security before any serious injuries could occur.

 

The crowd was then left, amazed by what had transpired before them.

 

"That's wild, man." said Ernest Williams, a 34 year old father of two.  "I know I am voting for Gore now though...you have to respect a man that is married to a gangsta b*tch like Tipper."

 

The Gore and Bush camp could not be reached for comment.

[Guest Cerebus]

You think it will get uglier that THIS in 2000? I doubt it.

 

Bush campaign goes after Gore

Gore camp 'Oh it's on now'

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It seems that the presidential race has taken an ugly turn.

 

Last week, due to a scheduling goof, Democratic nominee Al Gore and Republican nominee George Bush, Jr. were both slated to give an speech at Georgia State University. 

 

Both camps agreed to share the time, with the Gore camp allowing Bush to give his speech first.  Things seemed to be going civil enough at first.  It wasn't until later that the stage sharing turned ugly.

 

"Bush was talking about his economic plan and Mr. Gore did a "bulls**t cough"." Said Emily Johnson, a junior at the school.   "Mr. Bush looked over and gave him a mean look and then started back talking."

 

But the words that followed were not about Bush's economic plan.

 

"...and I will definitely do a better job leading the country than this scrotum sucking ball licker over here!" Bush shouted as he pointed to Gore. 

 

Enraged, Gore grabbed an additional microphone and began to shout expletives to the shock and horror of the crowd. 

 

"He called Bush a crab infested d*ck hole." said Ephram Jackson. "I had to explain to my son what it meant to be crab infested...he already knew what a dick hole was.  We are very open about our bodies in our family" he added before he was arrested seconds later.

 

Things came to a head when Bush told Gore "I'd f*ck my dog before I put it in that fat b*tch!" as he pointed at Gore's wife Tipper, who was having a verbal spat with Bush's wife, Laura, at the same time, reportedly yelling "I will grab my gat and pull a 187 on yo ass patna!"

 

Gore responded by suggesting that Bush's mother didn't think Tipper was fat when she was engaged win a threesome with the two (Mr. Gore and Tipper) the previous night. 

 

Punches were then thrown but the fight was quickly broken up by campus security before any serious injuries could occur.

 

The crowd was then left, amazed by what had transpired before them.

 

"That's wild, man." said Ernest Williams, a 34 year old father of two.  "I know I am voting for Gore now though...you have to respect a man that is married to a gangsta b*tch like Tipper."

 

The Gore and Bush camp could not be reached for comment.

If that story had included a chair shot and a surprise run-in by tweener Ralph Nader it would have been gold.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

The country may be polarized...

 

But from where I sit it isn't half Kerry half Bush...

 

I't shalf pro bush...half anti bush.

 

Kerry is irrelevant.

[Ripper 0]

You think it will get uglier that THIS in 2000?  I doubt it. 

 

Bush campaign goes after Gore

Gore camp 'Oh it's on now'

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It seems that the presidential race has taken an ugly turn.

 

Last week, due to a scheduling goof, Democratic nominee Al Gore and Republican nominee George Bush, Jr. were both slated to give an speech at Georgia State University. 

 

Both camps agreed to share the time, with the Gore camp allowing Bush to give his speech first.  Things seemed to be going civil enough at first.  It wasn't until later that the stage sharing turned ugly.

 

"Bush was talking about his economic plan and Mr. Gore did a "bulls**t cough"." Said Emily Johnson, a junior at the school.   "Mr. Bush looked over and gave him a mean look and then started back talking."

 

But the words that followed were not about Bush's economic plan.

 

"...and I will definitely do a better job leading the country than this scrotum sucking ball licker over here!" Bush shouted as he pointed to Gore. 

 

Enraged, Gore grabbed an additional microphone and began to shout expletives to the shock and horror of the crowd. 

 

"He called Bush a crab infested d*ck hole." said Ephram Jackson. "I had to explain to my son what it meant to be crab infested...he already knew what a dick hole was.  We are very open about our bodies in our family" he added before he was arrested seconds later.

 

Things came to a head when Bush told Gore "I'd f*ck my dog before I put it in that fat b*tch!" as he pointed at Gore's wife Tipper, who was having a verbal spat with Bush's wife, Laura, at the same time, reportedly yelling "I will grab my gat and pull a 187 on yo ass patna!"

 

Gore responded by suggesting that Bush's mother didn't think Tipper was fat when she was engaged win a threesome with the two (Mr. Gore and Tipper) the previous night. 

 

Punches were then thrown but the fight was quickly broken up by campus security before any serious injuries could occur.

 

The crowd was then left, amazed by what had transpired before them.

 

"That's wild, man." said Ernest Williams, a 34 year old father of two.  "I know I am voting for Gore now though...you have to respect a man that is married to a gangsta b*tch like Tipper."

 

The Gore and Bush camp could not be reached for comment.

If that story had included a chair shot and a surprise run-in by tweener Ralph Nader it would have been gold.

I would have to question the legitamacy of it if that was in there.