Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 What would be a good time to give Gert T to make his pick? Around noon tomorrow or so? Or sooner/later? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I think starting now we should use the 12 hour rule. UG was an exception with the first pick. We knew this deal was starting this weekend, but didn't know it was going to be at 3 in the morning. So cutting UG a break to start was fine, but at this point a glance should have been made to this thread. So what does that make it 8am-ish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 3rd pick was 7:38 PM ET, thus it would be, what, 7:38 AM for 12 hours right? I say give him until 8:30 AM ET(whatever that is Central) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Yeah.. so that's around 7:30AM CT for me. If no pick is made by then, I will make the pick on behalf of Gert T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Note: I PMed Flyboy with 4 choices for my pick as I will be out most of the day Sunday. So if he picks for me that's cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Well I better make this pick before 7:38 am, and this wasn't easy but damnit I am a TSM team player. With the fourth overall pick in the 1st round, the NY Giants select: Robert Gallery OT, Iowa OVERVIEW Former tight end who found a home at right offensive tackle … Carried on the family tradition of wearing the Iowa uniform, as his brother, Nick, was an All-Big Ten Conference punter for the Hawkeyes from 1993-96, and a younger brother, John, is a teammate and reserve punter (2001-present) … The team captain earned numerous accolades for his performances during the 2003 season, including winning the Outland Trophy as the nation's best interior lineman … The unanimous All-America first-team selection was rated the best prospect for the 2004 NFL Draft and received the highest rating of any offensive lineman (perfect 9.0 score) since Southern California's Tony Boselli (8.8 score) in 1995, by The NFL Draft Report … The Big Ten's Offensive Lineman of the Year has also excelled in the team's weight room, winning Iron Hawk Award honors in 2003, along with earning the Hayden Fry "Extra Heartbeat" Award … He also excels in the class room, being named to the Big Ten's Academic All-Conference squad as a senior … Has not allowed a quarterback sack in his last 36 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 That's who I was going to pick for the Giants as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 That's funny Gallery's two brothers are punters and he's this huge offensive linemen. On a related note. The mailman in the area, was a former O-Linemen for the Hawkeyes in the 1970's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 EDIT: Move along now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I have bravesfan and pinjockey's picks to make for them if they happen to be offline when it's their turn. Jumpin' Jack Flash has until 12 PM CT to make his pick and if he hasn't made it by then I'll make it for him as soon as I get home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Hmm.. I saw Jumpin' Jack lurking this morning, but no pick was made. Oh well.. I'll have the Redskins' pick up in just a bit. EDIT: With the fifth pick in the 2004 TSM NFL Mock Draft, the Washington Redskins select... Sean Taylor - Safety - University of Miami The Washington Redskins have been the most active team this offseason with trading shutdown cornerback, Champ Bailey, for Clinton Portis as well as picking up Mark Brunell. With the depature of Bruce Smith, Trotter pending, and retired Darrell Green, the Redskins are missing a certain piece on their defense. Some could argue that this pick should go towards superstar tight-end, Kellen Winslow, but the best player on the board is Sean Taylor. At the "U", Taylor showed that he has the potential to be better than All-Pro safety Roy Williams of the Dallas Cowboys. Taylor has the speed to cover wide receivers, tight ends, and halfbacks coming out of the flat. And, let's not get started on his tackling ability. Taylor should fit a void that the Redskins needed to fill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 The Detroit Lions (lomasmoney) are on the clock.. they have until 4 AM (or whatever time I wake up) to make their pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Taylor has the speed to cover wide receivers, tight ends, and halfbacks coming out of the flat The latter two, perhaps, but he timed horribly in the 40 on his pro-day workout. Still, the Redskins won't pass on him. Just sayin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I think 40 times and workouts in general are horribly overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Me too. People who think Larry Fitz won't do well just because he didn't run a 4.3 are retarded. But, in all fairness, Taylor DID run like, a 4.6. That's definitely not burner speed. He'll still make an excellent pro playing safety, though. He's a fucking ballhawk and a huge hitter at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaMarka 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Taylor might drop due to those times, though. I could see the Skins grabbing a DE instead. I've seen Taylor all the way down at 17, which is retarded. IMO if the Skins don't grab the guy, the Lions will gobble him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 There is NO CHANCE he'd get past 11. The Steelers, with their secondary woes, would NEVER let a player of that caliber pass their spot, even if fucking Eli Manning is still on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Me too. People who think Larry Fitz won't do well just because he didn't run a 4.3 are retarded. Same thing with Kevin Jones' stock dropping after he ran around a 4.5-4.6.. most have him dropping down to the Cowboys just because of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 There is NO CHANCE he'd get past 11. The Steelers, with their secondary woes, would NEVER let a player of that caliber pass their spot, even if fucking Eli Manning is still on the board. C'mon now. Let's stop using hyperboles. If Eli is still on the board, I'm sure the Steelers will snatch their QB of the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 The difference between KJ and Fitz, though, is that KJ's allure is his ability to break the long runs. If he's only got mediocre speed, that's a big downfall for him. He's already questionable inbetween the tackles, so Stephen Jackson might be a safer pick as a RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 There is NO CHANCE he'd get past 11. The Steelers, with their secondary woes, would NEVER let a player of that caliber pass their spot, even if fucking Eli Manning is still on the board. C'mon now. Let's stop using hyperboles. If Eli is still on the board, I'm sure the Steelers will snatch their QB of the future. Fair enough But they'd be elated if Taylor fell to them, and probably would take him over Ben Roth, who is also rumored to be falling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 The difference between KJ and Fitz, though, is that KJ's allure is his ability to break the long runs. If he's only got mediocre speed, that's a big downfall for him. He's already questionable inbetween the tackles, so Stephen Jackson might be a safer pick as a RB. Eh, I'm not so sure. In fact, I remember in the VT-Miami game, KJ showed how elusive he was against SEAN TAYLOR himself . I've seen some VT games and 4.5-4.6 or not, KJ is going to be a great franchise back for any team that picks him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Oh, no doubt. I still think he needs to get stronger before he can make a significant impact, though (i.e. he'll be pretty average as a rook). That was another unimpressive aspect of his workout, if I'm not mistaken. I also halfway expect Maurice Clarett to jump up to the first round if his workout is as good as I'm expecting it will be (he's working with combine specialists). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I also halfway expect Maurice Clarett to jump up to the first round if his workout is as good as I'm expecting it will be (he's working with combine specialists). Really? Wow.. that's a very bold statement. I think Clarett is too out of shape and too immature to be a first round pick and normally the NFL scouts don't draft on "potential". He can be a late second rounder, but that's about as high as I see him. I still think he needs to get stronger before he can make a significant impact, though (i.e. he'll be pretty average as a rook). That was another unimpressive aspect of his workout, if I'm not mistaken. True, but I think as a rookie should have at least a 700 yd. season. I mean, Dominic Davis came on the scene and made a impact.. I can definitely seeing KJ doing the same. S. Jackson remains me of a faster and with time, a better version of Ricky Williams. Can't really think of a comparison for KJ at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Really? Wow.. that's a very bold statement. I think Clarett is too out of shape and too immature to be a first round pick and normally the NFL scouts don't draft on "potential". He can be a late second rounder, but that's about as high as I see him. It's really based on the workout numbers. If he weighs in at close to what he was playing at, and if he runs, say, a 4.4... I can see a Willis McGahee-type situation with someone snagging him at the end of the first round (maybe even NE if they stay put) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Me too. People who think Larry Fitz won't do well just because he didn't run a 4.3 are retarded. Same thing with Kevin Jones' stock dropping after he ran around a 4.5-4.6.. most have him dropping down to the Cowboys just because of that. er...you mean the Patriots? I got news for you, if Jackson is gone before 21 (which he will be) and Jones is still there, the Pats take him, no question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I got news for you, if Jackson is gone before 21 (which he will be) Umm.. no team is really in desperate need of a RB other than Detriot (who will probably not trust a #6 pick this high for a RB), NE, and Dallas. Jackson will probably fall to NE leaving Kevin Jones for Dallas to gobble up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BANKYWOOD Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I got news for you, if Jackson is gone before 21 (which he will be) Umm.. no team is really in desperate need of a RB other than Detriot (who will probably not trust a #6 pick this high for a RB), NE, and Dallas. Jackson will probably fall to NE leaving Kevin Jones for Dallas to gobble up. Oakland needs a RB. Bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 4, 2004 I got news for you, if Jackson is gone before 21 (which he will be) Umm.. no team is really in desperate need of a RB other than Detriot (who will probably not trust a #6 pick this high for a RB), NE, and Dallas. Jackson will probably fall to NE leaving Kevin Jones for Dallas to gobble up. Oakland needs a RB. Bad. No way in hell does Oakland takes a RB with the SECOND pick, though. Plus, I don't think Fargas will be too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2004 Oakland needs to be contracted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
