Scroby 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 You know it could have been a lot worse. At least Foley leaves for a little while and he doesn't come back unless its to help the company out a bit and he gets something in return. At least Foely doesn't do what Austin did and just take up tv for nothing, and just run over everybody. At least Foley did something meaningful, unlike a lot of people who just come back and only try to get themselves over. Be happy he helps out instead of just putting himself over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrPhil28 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 The fact of the matter is, Foley took shots at WWE a lot when he left, even talked about how he didn't want to be a part of this company with the way it was going, then all of the sudden he has something he needs to promote, so he whores himself out to put over the new company bitch boy. So I am assuming in the next 6 months, we will hear some interview where Foley rips WWE/Vince/bookers......followed by his return to put over the next guy, so he can get a plug for something. What exactly has he been plugging during the Orton feud? Cause I'll be damned if I saw anything like that. Just face it, he didn't put over any guys that the marks around the internet(and yes, we are all marks) love, so he's an asshole. God bless the IWC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 The deed is done, and it was done in a match that disguised Orton's weaknesses and there's nothing to complain about. I agree, Foley is almost as pointless as Austin now, but the match and feud were fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted April 30, 2004 Huh. I would think the bigger complaint would have to do with the hardcore nature of the match up. Call it the Shane McMahon syndrome where a guy comes in and does some crazy spots that the fans don't see on a regular basis because a guy on a full schedule wouldn't be ableto have the time to recover. So it makes the actual workers look a little more ordinary as the part time guy goes out and gets the 'fearless' label. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 Foley = TEH OVERRATED~!!1! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 Well, you're allowed to not like it, but the truth of the matter is that all of those "lousy" promos got great crowd reactions, accomplished what they were supposed to do, and looks as if spiked a good buyrate for Backlash. Those of us who "kiss Foley's ass" do not do so blindly. He's entertaining and I was happy to see him come back. Point made, but the way you worded your post was if there was no plausible reason for anyone to dare not like the angle. When, in fact, there was. Frankly, I thought it was the least entertaining I ever recall Foley being in a long time, I didn't like who the angle involved, I'd seen this angle before and it was done a lot better, I don't feel anyone beating Foley is a big deal, and I'm sick of all the semi-retired wrestlers on TV. So I do have my reasons, whether you liked them or not. Tawren has an additional reason or so, since he simply didn't like the matches. I think the WMXX match was extremely overrated, but I haven't seen the Backlash match; I don't care either way. Although I find it pathetic WWE keeps relying on hasbeens rather than working with what they have. Then when they work with what they have, they push guys like Bradshaw. Remember also that the string of decent Raws allegedly is due in part to Foley advising the writers. If that's true, then fine, he should stay backstage. You know it could have been a lot worse That's always a poor way to start when illustrating your viewpoint. Just face it, he didn't put over any guys that the marks around the internet(and yes, we are all marks) love, so he's an asshole. He had complained about the WWE pushing guys like Orton...then he puts him over. He's not an asshole--just a whore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest duck420 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 mick is totally over with people who dont know about shit behind the scenes. he sells ppvs. aint the point to make money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicalprofit 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 In one night, Foley managed to do what it took HHH months to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 In one night, Foley managed to do what it took HHH months to do. Which was? mick is totally over with people who dont know about shit behind the scenes. he sells ppvs. aint the point to make money? No one is denying it was a smart business decision for WWE, however we're placing the blame on Mick for being a hypocritical whorebag. In fact, the story was that Foley called WWE and wanted to do the program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 30, 2004 Wasn't Foley complaining that He hated what Vince and Co. were doing to the product? So the fact he came back and wrote the entire Orton feud, perhaps that was more motivational purposes for foley to vince how to write a feud again. Ya notice how Raw's storylines have been so far and away better then they were exactly one year ago...Perhaps Vince took notice from Foley's approach. Stop writing stupid angles like necro and Kane geting beat by Boy Wonder...So they made the WORLD TITLE mean something by having three guys go all out for it...and has attempted to use everyone on the roster in a meaningful way. Is Foley a Whore? Yes, but he's a better whore then Austin and Hogan were. Austin complained about the product when the reality was, he didnt like that he wasn't superman anymore. So he comes back and has it done that he doesn't work but can still kick ass and drink beer. Hogan came back and did the right thing for once, laid down to every fucking person and even tapped to Angle...then he left...and we assumed he was done. He wasn't he came back in time for another mania payday and then showed his true colors by leaving the company in the middle of a huge (alibet stupid) angle. Foley didn't ask for the main event or more money, he wanted to put over and make the guy WWE wanted to groom to be a star someone special. So he took over the book and used his advantages of giving a promo and creating something thats not so farfetched but slightly different. He went down clean in MSG. He went down clean at Backlash. The people here call Foley a High Jobber to the stars but the marks dont see him like that. He is still illistrated as the HARDCORE ICON. Even though he jobbed in all his high profile matches, they don't remember that, they remember that Mick Foley was hardcore as fuck. So When Randy Orton outbumped and Out"hardcored" Foley, That made Orton a new man, made him something. Foley doesn't have to do this, he has his books to make him money, he has a deal with CBS...Foley did this because he loves the business dispite all the ugliness of it and wanted to help it. Yet you guys call him a whore...He's selfish but he's far from a whore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted April 30, 2004 Originally posted by Choken One Is Foley a Whore? Yes Originally posted by Choken One He's selfish but he's far from a whore. Originally posted by Choken One Foley didn't ask for the main event or more money, he wanted to put over and make the guy WWE wanted to groom to be a star someone special. So he took over the book and used his advantages of giving a promo and creating something thats not so farfetched but slightly different. So, uh... is he selfish, and is he a whore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 30, 2004 I meant don't call him a whore because he came back.... I consider a whore someone who cames back for money...or fame... He came back because it's an addiction. However, the people here have an different definition of what a whore is and according to those credos, I guess he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 "I'm a professional prostitute, and that, after all, is what all performers are: prostitutes." -- Kevin DuBrow Don't tell me Foley isn't, because he is one. He's a performer in the business, and one of the biggest ones out there when it comes to "whoring." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest duck420 Report post Posted April 30, 2004 mick can do whatever he wants in my opinion. its not up to me to judge when im not the guy in there getting hit with barb wire. i dont like hypocrites but wrestling is JUST PLAIN FUCKED UP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2004 Mick Foley, after four years of ring rust and spending half a year to get in shape, put over Randy orton HUGE AND had the Match of the Night at backlash (outperforming TSM's God Benoit). The fuck? A couple sick bumps by Orton (and that's all the match is; this is another case of KOTR98 syndrome) was NOT better than the three way. If you think all the match was is a couple bumps, then you're deluded. It was all spot-chop-spot-chop-chop-spot... More like spot-rest-spot-rest-spot-rest, with Orton taking all the bumps then beating Foley with an RKO. Why do you continue to harbor hate for me for not liking the WMXX three way? You never even explained why it was so good anyways. Thems is jokes.... No hate....I think youre a cynical viewer watching for the sole purpose of complaining....but at least you try to explain yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites