Ernest "The Cat" Miller buries wwe in interview

[Guest MikeSC]

Diamond Dallas Page

Hmm, World Tag Champ. Euro Champ. Was being used regularly until his retirement.

Kanyon

World Tag Champ. U.S Champ. Not one single really good match in his tenure.

Booker T

He's been crap in the ring. Why WOULD they push him hard --- well, if one ignores being in the ME SLOT AT WRESTLEMANIA XIX.

Sean O'Haire

Pure, unending, unrelenting suck.

Chuck Palumbo

Where would you propose they stick him?

Lance Storm

They DID try --- the un-Americans was designed to get HIM over --- and it bombed.

Hugh Morrus

You can't be serious. He's horrible.

Mark Jindrak

Used better than he was in WCW.

Buff Bagwell

Clutching for straws, are we? He is terrible in the ring, can't cut a promo, managed to get a crowd to absolutely dump on a match, was a dick backstage, got in a fight with Helms...

Scott Steiner

It's WWE's fault he sucked in his big match with Hunter?

Goldberg

Missed the World Title run, huh? Heck, Hunter never really went over him. Plus, he's a head case and a crap worker with no ratings drawing prowess.

Billy Kidman

They've given him several CW Title runs. Blame an untimely injury when he was getting over early in Invasion and a total inability to get over afterwards.

Jamie Knoble

Used better than he was in WCW.

Shane/Hurricane Helms

Ditto. Plus, he has a propensity to blow some BAD spots.

How many of these guys got pushed correctly, or pushed at all?

All but one or two. It's not WWE's fault that WCW's roster was not that laden with talent.

Goldberg was pushed, but WWE made him mortal.

Wah.

 

WWE is not going to kill their mid-card to put over a guy who is a head case and isn't that good to begin with.

Booker T gets a push now and then to put over people.

He's not that good.

Bagwell was fired in a week

He's lucky he lasted that long.

DDP was made a joke. Steiner was exposed for sucking thanks to HHH (thank you HHH).

Scott sucking was Hunter's fault?

 

So, unless WWE workers cover up GLARING weaknesses, it's ALL the WWE's fault?

Everyone else listed or people I forgot were just shoved into shitty gimmicks, or thrown out on TV for the hell of it.

 

Using Chris Benoit as the sole example is stupid.

Benoit and Eddy Guerrero are the WORLD CHAMPIONS --- which AUTOMATICALLY disproves your already horribly flawed notion.

-=Mike

[Guest Deviant]

I'm with the WCW haters on just about everything, a few notes though.

 

Helms was treated quite well in WCW. The 3 Count gimmick was given time to get over, and it did. He was put in the 6 man matches and they worked. Had WCW not closed down, Shane Helms would have been riding high as an incredibly well pushed Cruiserweight Champion. His matches with Chavo in early 2001 were f***ing gold.

 

Kanyon was treated relatively well during the early Alliance days, then what? For the past two years he was lucky to get on Velocity, when even JR admitted he was quite talented.

 

I don't get the Booker T hate. All he needs is the right environment. When you put him in four minute matches, of course it's going to feature the same spots and a spinaroonie. WWE practically forced him to become half the worker he can be. When given the WM ball, he ran with it. The match with HHH was excellent, and proof that he belonged in the main event. What happened then?

 

Lance Storm needs a mic and about 6 minutes in the ring to get over. Storm was made to be a great mid-card heel.

 

Other than that, I'm with you guys.

[Scroby 0]

I think were all forgetting about Blackman.

[Guest Hot Ticket]

I think were all forgetting about Blackman.

who was a huge bore? thanks for more ammo on the anti-Karate front

[Guest CronoT]

There are just masters of Judo and Ikedo (sp) in WWE....humph but not...Karate.

Aikido, I think is what you're referring to.

 

Isn't Bischoff a black belt? Or does that not count because he isn't a wrestler.

 

In Tae Kwon Do. I think Rudo said that's basically like "having a black belt in ballet."

Karate tends to emphasize more on punches, and less on kicks. Tae Kwon Do tends to emphasize kicks, and less on punches. I tend to prefer Tae Kwon Do, but then again, my calves are 3 times bigger than my ankles.

[Scroby 0]

But Blackman did mix karate and pro wrestling together.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Good point on the WCW guys, but the majority (and a large # at that) barely get pushed or are pushed and dropped down to midcard limbo for months. Benoit & Eddie won World Titles of course, but it took FOUR YEARS to have WWE finally pull the trigger on the ideas.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Diamond Dallas Page

 

Hmm, World Tag Champ. Euro Champ. Was being used regularly until his retirement.

 

Former world champion also turned into wrestler's wife stalker.

 

Scott Steiner

 

It's WWE's fault he sucked in his big match with Hunter?

 

HHH & Steiner didn't have enough pratice for their RR match at house shows so we ended up seeing worst world title match since Nash / Mabel.

 

Its Steiner's fault for having ring rust and doing the same fucking suplexes over and over again. Its WWE's fault for not booking the match enoug times at house shows. Its HHH's fault for not carrying him.

 

Oh damn, he skipped the part about how much of an idiot he was commentating on Velocity. I felt so bad for Josh .

 

Not me, Ernest constantly ragging on Josh is what made Velocity half entertaining back then. Miller > DeMott

 

Of course, Ernest Miller had exactly one singles match at a SmackDown taping, and it was edited out of the show because it sucked ass.

 

Who was he against?

 

Lance Storm

 

They DID try --- the un-Americans was designed to get HIM over --- and it bombed.

 

Lance Storm was over when he was paired with Goldust. The moment he got switched to be with Val, the overness died down.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

It's HHH's fault that the crowd was cheering for HHH RUNNING AWAY!

 

Lets play the HHH Blame game again.

[Guest MikeSC]

Good point on the WCW guys, but the majority (and a large # at that) barely get pushed or are pushed and dropped down to midcard limbo for months. Benoit & Eddie won World Titles of course, but it took FOUR YEARS to have WWE finally pull the trigger on the ideas.

As opposed to the rapid success of "home-grown creations" like Edge, Christian, and Val Venis, huh?

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Diamond Dallas Page

Hmm, World Tag Champ. Euro Champ. Was being used regularly until his retirement.

Former world champion also turned into wrestler's wife stalker.

Former Would Champ who wasn't good enough to be a World Champ.

Scott Steiner

It's WWE's fault he sucked in his big match with Hunter?

HHH & Steiner didn't have enough pratice for their RR match at house shows so we ended up seeing worst world title match since Nash / Mabel.

So, WWF gives Scott lots of warm up time --- and they're trying to "expose" his flaws.

 

They don't, and they're not giving him enough practice.

Its Steiner's fault for having ring rust and doing the same fucking suplexes over and over again.  Its WWE's fault for not booking the match enoug times at house shows.  Its HHH's fault for not carrying him.

Why the heck SHOULD a "main event level" performer BE carried?

 

When Guerrero v Bradshaw sucks on Sunday --- are you going to blame Eddy because of it?

Oh damn, he skipped the part about how much of an idiot he was commentating on Velocity. I felt so bad for Josh .

Not me, Ernest constantly ragging on Josh is what made Velocity half entertaining back then. Miller > DeMott

Wow, praising him by comparing him to a terrible announcer. Kudos.

 

Funny that JOSH MATTHEWS owned him.

Lance Storm

They DID try --- the un-Americans was designed to get HIM over --- and it bombed.

Lance Storm was over when he was paired with Goldust. The moment he got switched to be with Val, the overness died down.

He wasn't terribly over then, either.

-=Mike

[reign 0]

The simple fact is that there were a lot of WCW guys who could have had good if not great runs if the WWE just boked them correctly...I'll give a few examples

1. Hurricane- Sending one of the most talented cruisers to RAW was a terrible move...of course he's not going to get over when everybody is twice his size...he is well liked by most fans and if he's blowing spots it might be because he;s a little tired of jobbing when there's a whole division that he belongs in on the other show..they didn't even let him in the TLC Match in Vegas which probably could've got him over simply to make Kane look like he was a monster again

 

2. DDP and Kanyons tag run,like so many WWE title runs at the time, were so fucked up that it shouldn't even count. Those guys switched titles so much that it devalued all of them save(of course) the WWE(F) Title..I'd say more about Kanyon but we all know that Vince fucked him badly...and now he needs "new" stars because of stupidity like that...

 

3. Lance could've stayed in the tag ranks permantly along with most of the others...I never understood how a company with two shows and two tag titles could only have 4 or so tag teams per show...what kind of a fucking division is that? They had ALLLL these guys that could at least do something in the ring that would've been perfect in the ring as a tag team, a division that hides weakness and makes for exciting matches..but Vince and Co. would rather make a random team for 2 weeks, then split,reform another team, job them to the old teams, rinse,repeat...it's stupid..the tag division is all but dead and Lance Storm could've really helped out..I thought his Un-American run was good(especially with Regal)...I mean all they had to do was play up his ability as a tag team "specialist"

 

Of course the Cat still sucks but there are plenty of guys that could've had better runs in the WWE and not through their own fault...

[The Buzz 0]

I like how he wasn't afraid to pull any punches, and spoke how he felt. Judging by the interview, he said the same things a lot of fans have been saying for the past few years.

[tbondrage99 0]

Despite have quite a few good points, I just think that The Cat comes off as just another former WWE "Superstar" who has a chip on his shoulder.