Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 So let's see 1 no-hitter 1 perfect game 5 CYAs 5 straight 300+K seasons a 20K game WS MVP Only 233 wins, but inching ever so close to the 4K K mark any pitching accomplishment he hasn't done now? Surpass Nolan Ryan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 So let's see 1 no-hitter 1 perfect game 5 CYAs 5 straight 300+K seasons a 20K game WS MVP Only 233 wins, but inching ever so close to the 4K K mark any pitching accomplishment he hasn't done now? Surpass Nolan Ryan? In what aspect? If you're talking 5K+ strikeouts and no-hitters out the ass, that's something I don't expect any pitcher to do for a good while I watched the last three bottom-innings of the game on MLB TV this morning, and it was simply amazing how dominant Johnson was on the mound, especially with the final two outs being Ks Another fun fact: Johnson's 13 Ks in the PG rank second only behind Koufax, who had 14 in his perfect game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 19, 2004 I feel sorry for guys like Jason Schmidt. They throw a one-hit gem and get totally overshadowed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 Johnson is also the all time leader in K/9 IP (11.16). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSA09 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 I feel sorry for guys like Jason Schmidt. They throw a one-hit gem and get totally overshadowed. You're right. Schmidt got screwed. He picthed a great game and was really on and he gets side credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lando Griffin 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 "Screw that "can't bunt to break up a no-hitter/perfect game" bullshit. Your job is to win the game, not protect the other team's (or pitcher's) feelings." I still remember a few years ago when Bob Brenly got pissed when that happened to Curt Schilling. It was a two-run game, and Brenly is pissed that the other team is trying to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 I have no problem with bunting to break up a perfect game. If Schilling would have fielded his position...he'd have made that out anyway. When the game is 2-0 or 1,000,000-0 for that matter, the team that's losing still has a chance to win until the final out. There's no clock...so if you keep getting hits...you will always have a chance to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted May 19, 2004 From what I understand the "don't bunt to break up a no-hitter" (unwritten) rule is kind of like, "Well, if you're gonna get a hit off of him, get a real hit. Be a man about it." Of course all bets would be off in like a playoff or WS game. I don't agree with the rule necessarily, but I see the origin. It's just like how a pitcher kind of waits for the batter to get ready before they start to pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 As far as Jason Schmidt goes, anyone else worried to see him throw 144 pitches in that effort? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2004 144? Yikes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 19, 2004 As far as Jason Schmidt goes, anyone else worried to see him throw 144 pitches in that effort? I could have sworn Dusty Baker was coaching the team Schmidt was facing last night. On one hand you can say Schmidt is still very fresh, on the other hand he's fresh because he's coming back from an arm injury. 144 is far too much. By that pitch count he probably should have been out after 7 or somewhere in the middle of the 6th inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 For the unitiated like myself, Im assuming a perfect game is three strikes every time for every batter without a hit? Also what is a no hitter, Im asssuming its obvious but you never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 A perfect game is retiring all 27 batters without a hit, error, or walk. A no-hitter is not allowing a hit, but allowing a runner to reach base in another way (walk, error, hit batsman) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Yes. On a technicality, you CAN have an error, if the runner does not reach base. For example, if a fielder drops a foul pop-up, but the batter is retired later in the at bat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2004 I know. That's why I worded it as allowing a runner to reach base in another way (walk, error, hit batsman) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2004 I'm referring to a perfect game. You can have a perfect game and an error, as long as no one reaches base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 24, 2004 I'm referring to a perfect game. You can have a perfect game and an error, as long as no one reaches base. An error isn't possible if nobody reaches base. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2004 I always hated that idea that a perfect game be applied to a game where you don't allow a batter to reach plate. I always felt that should be called a no-hitter and that a perfect game be 27 K's with no hits, walks, etc. I know its impossible to do so, but hey, I did it on MVP Baseball! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2004 Yes. On a technicality, you CAN have an error, if the runner does not reach base. For example, if a fielder drops a foul pop-up, but the batter is retired later in the at bat. That's not considered an error (i.e. "scored" as an error). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
