Can the RAW 10 be better than the Smackdown 6?

[Guest Rrrsh]

Right now, other than Kane, their are 10 guys on RAW who are fueding with each other at the level the Smackdown 6 was. And altho the RAW 10 just really came to fruition around April, can the RAW 10 produce as much or even more kick-ass matches on Free TV and PPV's.

 

 

BTW, the Raw 10 is All of Evolution, Christian, Benoit, HBK, Jericho, Edge and Benjerman.

[Tawren 0]

Right now, other than Kane, their are 10 guys on RAW who are fueding with each other at the level the Smackdown 6 was. And altho the RAW 10 just really came to fruition around April, can the RAW 10 produce as much or even more kick-ass matches on Free TV and PPV's.

They haven't done anything near as good as the tags and are barely on the singles level that the SD6 did.

 

So no.

[Guest Choken One]

It's the Raw 12...

 

You should add Tajiri and Eugene.

[Tawren 0]

It's the Raw 12...

 

You should add Tajiri and Eugene.

Eugene has had 1 match.

[Guest Jimbo]

Put Jericho on Smackdown. Now.

[Guest Rrrsh]

It's the Raw 12...

 

You should add Tajiri and Eugene.

Tajiri is "hurt" and Eugene is not right now part of any storylines that include the other Raw 10 guys.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

with Kane and some other guy, we have the Dirt Dozen of RAW!

[Guest Rrrsh]

Right now, other than Kane, their are 10 guys on RAW who are fueding with each other at the level the Smackdown 6 was. And altho the RAW 10 just really came to fruition around April, can the RAW 10 produce as much or even more kick-ass matches on Free TV and PPV's.

They haven't done anything near as good as the tags and are barely on the singles level that the SD6 did.

 

So no.

This is more of a potential question rather than what the RAW 10 has done.

 

And I think Benoit/HHH/Michaels is in the same league as any 3 way or singles match the SD 6 had.

[Tawren 0]

I hated (well, disliked) the WMXX three way and marginally enjoyed the Backlash 3 way, so I don't agree with that.

 

And putting it in a potential point of view, I again disagree. None of the "Raw 10" are anywhere near the level of who the SD6 were in 02 (OK, maybe beating out Edge, but nowhere near the rest of the SD6). They also won't get the consistent 10+ minutes every night.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

This may sound shocking, but Chavo Guerrero isn't the greatets wrestler either.

 

I'm not gonna touch the 3-ways, cause it was a 6 page argument last time.

[Guest Rrrsh]

I hated (well, disliked) the WMXX three way and marginally enjoyed the Backlash 3 way, so I don't agree with that.

 

And putting it in a potential point of view, I again disagree. None of the "Raw 10" are anywhere near the level of who the SD6 were in 02 (OK, maybe beating out Edge, but nowhere near the rest of the SD6). They also won't get the consistent 10+ minutes every night.

I wouldnt say Edge was worse than Chavo or Rey as singles stars.

 

 

Furthermore, Edge, Rey and Chavo back then, as single wrestlers, were no better than Orton, Benjerman, Edge or Christian now.

[Tawren 0]

I'm not gonna touch the 3-ways, cause it was a 6 page argument last time.

Ha. Touche.

 

Furthermore, Edge, Rey and Chavo back then, as single wrestlers, were no better than Orton, Benjerman, Edge or Christian now.

 

Agreed on Edge, but I think Chavo is a step above and Rey was far above these guys.

[CanadianChick 0]

Furthermore, Edge, Rey and Chavo back then, as single wrestlers, were no better than Orton, Benjerman, Edge or Christian now.

 

Agreed on Edge, but I think Chavo is a step above and Rey was far above these guys.

Nah, Chavo isn't really that great. I'd put him on Christian's level.

[The Mandarin 0]

Rey from 2002 is better than Edge or Christian now, no question. Rey was awesome in 2002, and even good in 2003. But don't get me wrong, E and C are quite good.

 

But I still think all of the guys from RAW now are doing a great job. To compare it to the SD 6, I'd have to watch the tapes that I don't have.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Furthermore, Edge, Rey and Chavo back then, as single wrestlers, were no better than Orton, Benjerman, Edge or Christian now.

 

Agreed on Edge, but I think Chavo is a step above and Rey was far above these guys.

Nah, Chavo isn't really that great. I'd put him on Christian's level.

I'd have to agree w/ CC here, although I wouldn't put Chavo at the same level as Christian. I'd have Edge & Chavo as members 5 & 6 of the SD6, with the others being head & shoulders above them. Saying Rey was no better than Orton, X, Benjamin (who I like), or Edge is ridiculous.

 

As for the "Raw 10", I wouldn't put Orton, Batista (who I like), Flair, or Christian on the same level as the SD6. Raw Edge cancels out SD Edge (although I'd give the edge to SD Edge), Benjamin is still learning, and HHH depends on if he wants to put in the effort (which, to his credit, he has since the draft).

 

I'd give the edge to the SD6.

[Guest Rrrsh]

I think Rey as a TAG wrestler in 2002 was tremendous. But, in a singles match vs anyone else but Angle, Rey proved how limited is really is.

[Guest The Bandit]

Edge, Rey, Eddie, Chavo, Kurt &?

[Tawren 0]

Edge, Rey, Eddie, Chavo, Kurt &?

Benoit.

[Guest Choken One]

funny...most people forget Chavo...not Benoit.

 

Strange.

[The Mandarin 0]

I always forget Eddie. It's really weird.

 

Outside of the six, Matt Hardy is the only other really good one from that time period. Too bad it couldn't have been "The SmackDown 6- +1" or "The SmackDown Six, featuring Matt Hardy on drums".

[Tawren 0]

I always forget Eddie. It's really weird.

 

Outside of the six, Matt Hardy is the only other really good one from that time period. Too bad it couldn't have been "The SmackDown 6- +1" or "The SmackDown Six, featuring Matt Hardy on drums".

Uh, Brock?

[Guest Choken One]

Brock was wallowing in the ultra shitty Undertaker feud...he hadn't emerged from his shell just yet.

[Tawren 0]

Brock vs Taker in the HIAC completely redeems that feud.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Hardy, Knoble, Kidman (hey, no worse than Edge) could've stepped in and hung with the SD6 guys. It's a shame they didn't expand past those 6, because there were quite a few guys who could have held their own if mixed in.

[The Mandarin 0]

Brock vs Taker in the HIAC completely redeems that feud.

Yeah, that was good. And bloody.

 

I forgot about Brock. The feud wasn't that bad though, past Unforgiven. I liked the broken hand stuff, and Matt Hardy showing up.

[iggymcfly 0]

All you have to do is see how much better Benjamin looked in the ring on Smackdown to see that the Smackdown Six were better on the basis of pure wrestling. Even though people on here tend to underrate him, Kurt Angle could bring up the level of those around him like no one else on the roster (including Benoit). That being said, the Raw X are still very good in the ring, and probably better than the Smackdown Six in the promo department.

 

I haven't been watching Raw enough lately to make a full statement on the ins and outs of it, but the basic facts that I see indicate that while Raw may be a better show right now, (due to Kane, Eugene, Bischoff etc.), the Smackdown Six were definitely superior in the ring. Oh, and the Brock/Taker feud was tight until they did that shitty ending where they tried to transfer all the heat to the Big Show.

 

Of course, I liked the Vengeance Triple Threat Match with Angle, Brock, and Big Show better than the main event at Wrestlemania so what do I know.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Benoit, Angle and Eddie on SD are only currently matched by Benoit.

 

Orton and Batista are having a good run with good workers but haven't proven they can do much in singles with a weaker opponent. HHH is benefitting from working with better workers but still looks lost and matches suffer when he's in control. Christian and Edge are both kind of ify ringwise. Shelton is good but I'm not looking at this guy to be putting on anything above average.

 

The SD6 were putting on ****+ matches every week while the Raw12 are doing ***-***3/4. I still easily give the edge to the SD6.

[Guest Choken One]

I'd easily put Shawn over Angle...Angle has only carried ONE match above ***3/4 levels (kane)...

 

Shawn carried countless lugs to ***3/4+ on daily basis.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Current Shawn Michaels is nowhere near the level of Kurt Angle.

[iggymcfly 0]

Angle may not carry total stiffs to great matches, but Shawn doesn't either nowadays. And Angle's taken Edge to ****1/2, which is about a star higher than I can remember anyone else doing in a singles match. And in the aforementioned Vengeance match, he took Brock and Big Show to heights they couldn't have dreamed of otherwise.

 

Don't get me wrong. I love HBK in the ring too. He's the only one who can give Benoit a serious challenge as best wrestler on Raw, but he just doesn't deliver the same kind of consistently great performances that Angle did.