Guest slacklet Report post Posted June 18, 2004 source: IGN New Jack Interview The hardest of the hardcore talks Backyard Wrestling and jumping off roofs. June 15, 2004 - New Jack might just be the most intimidating man in wrestling. Sure, The Big Show is the biggest, Benoit might know the most holds, but New Jack's the only wrestler I've ever heard about who the other wrestlers fear. No joke. There are wrestlers who actually refuse to step into the ring against this ruthless fighter, and listening to him talk, I can see why. He's the posterchild for pain and the perfect man for the cover of a game where a weed whacker isn't only a good gardening tool, but your best weapon to slice up your opponent when he's laid out next to a flaming hedge…and that game is Backyard Wrestling 2: There Goes the Neighborhood. IGN Sports sat down with the man who made staple guns famous to ask about Backyard Wrestling, the Dudley's, and jumping off of roofs. Here's what he had to say, but be warned, this interview is definitely not for those faint of heart or those opposed to someone dropping the F-bomb about two or 200 times. IGN Sports: How does it feel to be one of the main stars in the new Backyard Wrestling game? New Jack: Ah no, I'm not one of the main stars, I am the main star. Let's get this right…sh!t. [laughs] You're talking about one of the, who on there is bigger than me? Nobody. Thank you! IGN Sports: The game definitely seems to suit you. You can jump off of roofs, balconies, whatever you see. You're the craziest man I've ever seen when it comes to suicide dives. New Jack: I know, right, so I was like damn, they need to put me in this motherf*****. Kevin Gill (the game's producer) called me and was like, Jack I heard you're going to retire. I was thinking about it, and he was like, well we have this game coming out and we want you to be a part of it. I told him, as long as my picture is on the front cover and the whole game is based around me, I'm down. IGN Sports: What do you think it is about Backyard Wrestling that fits your style so perfectly? New Jack: You have to understand something, when I used to do shows for ECW, these kids used to come to the shows and hand me these tapes all the time of them wrestling in their backyards, and I still got that sh!t. I still got collections of those tapes and I get more of a kick watching these tapes than I do watching myself sometimes because these kids are really trying. All of a sudden the backyard wrestling thing became big and I was thinking it was like watching me, only difference was, I wasn't wrestling in a backyard. I don't feel bad about being in this game because that's me. I'm the originator of all this sh!t, only difference is, we did it in a ring. I'm the ambassador, I'm the father, and all of these crazy fools are my kids. IGN Sports: You've done everything from staple guns to jumping off of balconies. What are some of the craziest highlights you remember from your career? New Jack: One of my fondest memories is when I threw Vic Grimes off of that thing in L.A. I almost killed him and that was in return for his fat ass falling on me when we were wrestling during a pay-per-view. I cracked my skull on that and lost the sight in my right eye. I broke my arm, my leg, and cracked my sternum all in that one fall. That was one of the better ones, then when I jumped on Vic from 35 feet out in L.A., that one, when I cut Eric Kulas in the face, that one, when I beat Chad Austin with the chair. I got a bunch of sh!t bro, I could go on and on. I'm really looking forward to doing this game because there are a lot of guys who are still trying to get where I've done been. I don't have a problem with them, because I know these guys are doing shows and they're in the game, but they haven't got the push that they probably deserve. I enjoy working with these kids. IGN Sports: Is it true that other wrestlers are scared to get in the ring with you? New Jack: Yeah, hell yeah. [laughs] I'm going to tell you one story. I'm not going to mention no names, I'll just throw my name out there, but sometimes we'd get high before the show. I came in the locker room one day and what Paul E. thought was cocaine on my nose…and actually it was that time, but this one time after that, me and Sandman made a big joke out of it and got these powdered donuts before the show, and we'd take these powdered donuts and run them on our noses and our lips. We'd walk in the locker room like we were all high and sh!t. We'd look all crazy and out of our mind, so when the guys would look at me, they'd be like, I'm not getting in the ring with him after he's been snorting that sh!t. I was so convincing that people would watch my matches and couldn't tell if I was really sticking someone with a fork or not. There were a lot of times where we'd get done with a match and Paul E. would run in between me and the cat that I was in the ring with because everyone in the locker room thought we were about to fight for real because the sh!t in the ring was so convincing. So a lot of guys from other companies, they see me, and they can't tell if what I'm doing is a work or not. I try to protect people, but I'm just so good at what I do, and all the horror stories that have been told about me, people just don't want to work against me. I actually had this one cat come up to me before a match and say: "Jack, I have a wife and kids at home and I have a day job, so please don't try to kill me in the ring." It got to a point where he didn't even get into the ring. He ran out into the parking lot and left. He was out there arguing with the promoter, talking about how I look sneaky and was going to f*** him up in the ring. He just got in his car and left. There have been a lot of times where guys come in the locker room and look at the lineup sheet and see their names next to mine and there was a problem. I'm going to tell you something. Everybody that I've ever hurt in the ring, I tried to. There have been a few people that I hurt, and it was a known fact that I was going to hurt them because before I ever went into the ring, I had already made up my mind that there was something they had done to me that pissed me off, and I was going to get them. Eric Kulas, he knew I was going to cut him before I cut him, he just didn't know how deep I was going to cut his ass. Paul E. knew I was going to cut him, but to this day he denies it. I told him: "I'm going to try to cut the top of his f****** head off. The deal with Vic Grimes, he knew I was going to get him back. It was just a matter of us getting into the ring. Chad Austin, when I broke his leg, he came up to me before the match and said he wanted to have a match like we had against Public Enemy. He was talking about how he wanted this, that, and the other, blood and gut, and I was like, who is this guy? What ended up happening is I broke his leg with a chair. The good part about this, though, was he pissed me off so bad that that's how I came up with my finish. They call it a 187, diving off of the top rope with the chair. Chad is the reason I came up with that because I wanted to do something to him that people would really remember. I needed something that I thought would kill that motherf***** with, so I dove off with the chair and smashed him in the face with the chair. That's how I started doing that as my finish. So, thank you, Chad. [laughs] IGN Sports: How did you even get started in wrestling? Did you ever do backyard wrestling as a kid? New Jack: The only thing close to backyard wrestling that I did as a kid, and I'm talking like nine or ten, and my mom would come home from work and she'd drive up from the driveway, me and my friends would jump off the roof of the house and dive in front of the car. She used to get out and beat the sh!t out of all of us. That was the closest thing I ever did. So when Paul E. used to burry me and Mustafa for whatever reason, I told Mustafa that I was going to go back and do some of the things I used to do as a kid. It's going to keep us above water, and that's when the whole diving thing started again. So the backyard thing, no I never did that. I had a buddy down in Atlanta who was training with WCW. He ran out of money, so he couldn't keep training because he couldn't keep paying them. So he said, let's go in the ring together and start wrestling. At the time I didn't want to do it. I was bounty hunting then, so I was cool. But once I started doing it, I was getting a kick out of it. I was bounty hunting, but I was also selling dope at the same time. I was locking people up and selling drugs all at the same time, so go figure. My friend got aggravated with wrestling because we weren't an overnight success, but I was having fun, so I kept doing it. IGN Sports: Were there any fans crazy enough to ever try and challenge you to a fight after a match? New Jack: I've had that happen a couple times. You sit in a bar and somebody comes up. "Hey, New Jack!" Then they start getting smart, they start getting drunk, and the next thing you know, they're trying to prove a point to somebody. Well, I'm not the type of guy to argue when I feel like I'm being threatened. There were a few times where I went to court on some sh!t where I just got up and knocked the f*** out of somebody. I had this one guy come up to me and hit me across the back of my neck, slap me on my neck really hard. I can't stand that shit. Don't touch the back of my neck or my head. I beat the shit out of him in a bar in Philly. People will talk how it's all fake on TV, well on TV I don't have my gun, but now I do. It's happened a few times, so f*** it, I say let's go for broke. Out of all the characters people have in the locker room, why f*** with me. Out of all the people in the locker room you see walking around the hotel, why would you come bother me? IGN Sports: You'd think they'd pick on a smaller guy like Spike. New Jack: Spike can fight, I do know that, but I understand what you're saying. Everybody who knows me knows, and I'm not about bragging about myself, but I will. I can fight. I can fight for real. This ain't no bullsh!t, I can f****** throw these things. That's why I don't watch the WWE. I'll throw up if I watch that sh!t. It makes my stomach upset. A lot of people call me about people imitating my style, copying my style, Devon, Bubba, Konnan, all those cats. I never got mad at them for copying my sh!t, but then when they started and the intro to their music was my sh!t, and then the go and mention my name in their song…I thought it was kind of funny because Bubba is the biggest p**** on the planet. Bubba is a bitch. We was in a building one night and Bubba was fighting a fan, and he fights like a girl. He dropped his head and was whipping his arms around like a windmill. Bubba's a bitch. He's influenced Devon a lot to do some of the dumb sh!t that they've gone out and done. But still, the fact remains the same, without me, there would be no them. They copied my sh!t, For whatever they ever bought, for whatever they own, for everything their kids put on their back, they have to look back and say it's because of New Jack. They know it because neither one of them can wrestle for sh!t. Both of them were doing Paul E. when they were in ECW, that's how they got where they are. Then he took all of his boys with him Taz, that gay f*****, Tommy Dreamer, I never had a problem with you know what I mean, they were all his boys, know what I'm saying. They went on and they tried to screw everybody they could, but bro it's cool, I'm still surviving, I'm still making money, so f*** them. IGN Sports: Looking back, you were one of the most influential hardcore wrestlers of all time. New Jack: Remember when Vince made his son start making those big dives and he kept hurting himself? When ECW wasn't competition no more, ECW was gone, then the diving stuff stopped because they didn't have anyone to compete against anymore. I say this a lot because I never had a problem with this guy and I respect him to the up most, but Jimmy Snuka did an eight-foot dive off of a cage onto Don Muraco, and the world stopped. Dude, I have a recording of me diving 40-feet, getting up and walking away. I went through a table with nobody on it and got up and walked away. Yeah, I walked to the back and passed the f*** out, but that's another story. [laughs] Paul E. once told me that the problem with me going to WWE is that they'll never know which one of you is showing up for work. Is it going to be the New Jack that wants to do business, the New Jack that's tired, the New Jack's that mad at something. So since they can't control me, they'd rather make Teddy Long New Jack 2004. He's just biting off what I did 12 years ago. I love Teddy to death, but a fact's a fact. They have these other cats acting hard and thugged out, acting like gangsters. Where do you think they got that from? Every time you think I got quiet, that's when I come up with some new sh!t. They want to dress like me, look like me, act like me, heve the kind of bitches I got. They can't do none of that sh!t. I've seen a lot of these girlfriends and wives and those are some ugly bitches that they have on their arm. When I'm through with it, they can line up and know what to do with it, they can kiss my ass. [laughs] Man, this interview is giving me a headache. [laughs] IGN Sports: Me too. [laughs] Back to the game for a second, what kind of match type are you most looking forward to playing? New Jack: Eventually, everyone is going to have to walk down South Central Blvd. and come to my house. And when you get to my house, if I could choose a type of match, I'd want to see a cage with a roof so you can't get out. Where I could just beat the f*** out of you and there's nothing you could do about it but complain like a little bitch. Or make it outside in like a football stadium and it's really dark so you can't really see, so I could just walk up and knock your ass out, then go run and hide. Just keep popping up and beating the sh!t out of you, cutting your arms off, sh!t like that. [laughs] Cut your arms and your legs off so you have to hop around and complain, complain until you almost die and then I resuscitate your ass and beat you some more. [laughs] I'm want to have one of those electric shock things like they have in the hospital…Clear! Then I beat the f*** out of you again. Ice picks, I'll stick them in your eyes. I want to fight in somebody's front yard, and you're down, then all of a sudden I climb on top of somebody's house with a lawn mower. I'll crank that motherf***** up and instead of diving off with a chair, I'll dive off with a lawn mower and cut your ass up. [laughs] -- Jon Robinson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2004 New Jack might just be the most intimidating man in wrestling. Sure, The Big Show is the biggest, Benoit might know the most holds, but New Jack's the only wrestler I've ever heard about who the other wrestlers fear. That's almost true if you forget about Vader,The Steiners,Ron Simmons,Angle,Lesnar,Haku and Hundreds of other guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2004 New Jack is an indy wrestler that is stiff and a legit murderer/killer/tough guy. Let his "reputation" in the sport build. Wrestle a * match, will you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2004 New Jack's the fucking man. I may never want to watch the man wrestle again, but his interviews (on and off camera) are fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites