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Guest Choken One

Thats the precise reason I don't want Eugene involved in this match.

 

 

Triple H Vs Chris Benoit is a money match that deserves a serious push with the sell being Benoit's refusal to let his title slip from his hands and Triple H's passion to be the greatest and to be the top act in the business but he needs that title for the world to know it, that Benoit never pinned Trips but Trips hasn't been able to avoid the Crossface yet.

 

 

Instead we'll get Eugene's "funny" antics and it'll ruin it all.

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I think the match should end w/ Benoit and HHH doing a double k.o spot and then...get this............Eugene, the rascal, he sneaks into the ring and pins them both! And the ref counts the 3! Genius!

 

Comedy- It sells.

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I think the match should end w/ Benoit and HHH doing a double k.o spot and then...get this............Eugene, the rascal, he sneaks into the ring and pins them both! And the ref counts the 3! Genius!

 

Comedy- It sells.

I'll fucking riot if that happend.

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Guest Choken One

then he comes out the next night with a groomed haircut and a pimp classy suit and cuts a "You fans are the real idiots. My Name is Nick Dismore and I am not a "special" person, I am a business aquaitance of Mr. Bischoff's and I concototed that Eugene character because I wanted to prove how pathetic the middle america blue collar society really is, that they would fall for such a pathetic loser, well not only did you idiots fall for it, but so did Triple H and Mr. Benoit, and that is why I am the world champion, and No one and I mean NO ONE will take this off me"

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Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes

...and moments later Choken One wakes up to realize it was all a dream.

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If you ask me...

 

Shawn is better conditioned now at 38 to take bumps then he was back in 1996 when he bumped so hard and so long that it made Curt Hening go "god damn it kid, stop that".

 

 

Who else would HBK be suited for? Kane is a big name on shawn's level...

 

 

Benjamin? Edge? maybe but shawn has to turn for that and despite all conventional wisdom...they wont do it.

Well yeah, Shawn definitely needs to turn. Especially since that his feud with HHH is over with. I mean what else is there for him to do?

 

A match with Kane will probably be good but it won't be close to match of the night good. So it's kind of a waste for Summerslam. Just like last year with Orton. However, a match against Edge, Benjamin, or even Jericho could possibly be match of the night.

 

If he turns heel, then maybe he can have a match with Jericho and finally put Jericho over. And he can have matches with Benoit leading up to Summerslam.

 

Or if he doesn't turn, he could always go to smackdown and give Anglesault his dream match, with Angle. Or have a match against RVD. Lots of things he can do.

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Guest Choken One
...and moments later Choken One wakes up to realize it was all a dream.

Yep, I'll wake and realize all this Benoit elevation was just a dream and that WMXX was really headlined by HHH and the returning Sid Eudy.

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Guest Choken One
If you ask me...

 

Shawn is better conditioned now at 38 to take bumps then he was back in 1996 when he bumped so hard and so long that it made Curt Hening go "god damn it kid, stop that".

 

 

Who else would HBK be suited for? Kane is a big name on shawn's level...

 

 

Benjamin? Edge? maybe but shawn has to turn for that and despite all conventional wisdom...they wont do it.

Well yeah, Shawn definitely needs to turn. Especially since that his feud with HHH is over with. I mean what else is there for him to do?

 

A match with Kane will probably be good but it won't be close to match of the night good. So it's kind of a waste for Summerslam. Just like last year with Orton. However, a match against Edge, Benjamin, or even Jericho could possibly be match of the night.

 

If he turns heel, then maybe he can have a match with Jericho and finally put Jericho over. And he can have matches with Benoit leading up to Summerslam.

 

Or if he doesn't turn, he could always go to smackdown and give Anglesault his dream match, with Angle. Or have a match against RVD. Lots of things he can do.

Id rather see HBK/Knoble and HBK/Haas then HBK/RVD.

 

 

RVD and HBK had that 10 minute disapointment in 2002...who wants that again?

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Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes

NOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not Sid!

 

Wait...he might kill HHH with the powerbomb....YES! SID!

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Guest Choken One

actually...With the exception of Pillman...Sid never really hurt anyone with the Powerbomb.

 

which is ironic considering...it's fucking Sid.

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Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes

Well he DID nearly drop HBK on his head the night after WM XI. The first powerbomb look completely fucked up.

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Guest Choken One

Sid was great at making it look sick...but i dont recall anyone actually getting hurt.

 

I still believe Sid's Powerbomb is the best ever..because it looked deadly as hell yet was still safe.

 

Nash is the worst...simply because he has actually dropped people on the heads...

 

Mike Awesome should send thank you cards daily to DDP for saving his life on that one Nitro when Nash had Awesome up for a Bomb and had started to bomb him off the stage(10-15 feet) and Awesome's head was like two inches off the ground and nash was struggling but Page caught it and lifted Awesome up so nash could deliver the shitty bomb.

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It was a disappointment though BECAUSE it was 10 minutes and because HHH interfered. Not to mention it was shawn's third match back after 4 years, and he was still rusty.

 

I still liked what I saw. shrug. It was just a letdown because it should have been more.

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Guest Choken One
Why does Chris Jericho care about the IC title?

he hates orton's egomanaical character...because he does it wrong.

 

 

 

in reality...Jericho literally volunteered to lay down for Orton.

 

I think it was just to throw HHH off and make him go

 

"That Damn Jericho thinks he's better, well job him to ort...what? he wants to job to him? Fuck that kid and his shimmery golden locks...he's going over me now. If he doesn't like it...he can kiss my ass and get my lotion"

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Dudleys vs. Hardyz (assuming Jeff is cleared to return) -- Interpromotional Tag Team Match

WTF? They're actually bringing Jeff back?

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Amazing, this looks like a great card, IMO. I CANNOT wait for HHH vs Benoit, Eddie vs Taker, and even Cena vs Angle. Rest of the card is looking very good as well but these 3 matches I can't wait for.

 

It must be noted, however, that last year we got a card for Summerslam a couple of months ahead of time that looked great but turned out to be totally different and a decent at best PPV.

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Guest Choken One

Any one remember what Jericho was going to do if he hadn't been injected into the Chamber?

 

Nash/Jericho 2?

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then he comes out the next night with a groomed haircut and a pimp classy suit and cuts a "You fans are the real idiots. My Name is Nick Dismore and I am not a "special" person, I am a business aquaitance of Mr. Bischoff's and I concototed that Eugene character because I wanted to prove how pathetic the middle america blue collar society really is, that they would fall for such a pathetic loser, well not only did you idiots fall for it, but so did Triple H and Mr. Benoit, and that is why I am the world champion, and No one and I mean NO ONE will take this off me"

Well, of course.

 

The 100% serious roles that Edge and Angle have taken on have been MEGA hits. The fans clearly hated goofy Edge. Listen to the amazing response he gets right now! The serious face push hasn't hurt his progress one bit. And humorous Angle....ugh, the fans detested it. Quite frankly, they thought it insulted their intelligence, which is why the guy never got a reaction. Evil General Manager Angle has surely invoked both MORE crowd reactions and HIGHER ratings. I mean, why would Eugene be any different?

 

WWE needs humor once in a while. And it needs characters that could be used for comic relief. There really isn't any point bumping them all off the face of the federation. There are enough serious wrestlers as it is. Dinsmore dropping the Eugene character and becoming just "plain, ol' Nick Dinsmore" would be a disaster at this point and time. Which is why it confuses me that so many people, not just yourself, are requesting it already.

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Guest Mulatto Heat

I have a feeling that there was at least a little bit of facetiousness in his post.

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Which is why I addressed it to the growing number of people lately that seem to be wanting Eugene to suddenly drop the retarded gimmick so early.

 

Even if Choken doesn't genuinely want it, it's something I felt should have been addressed anyway, and I'm glad he brought it up. It's much better to mention it here, in some kind of proper context, instead of starting an entirely meaningless new thread about it.

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Guest Anglesault
And humorous Angle....ugh, the fans detested it.

I wouldn't mind seeing humorous Angle back.

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Guest Choken One

Clearly I was joking since 1004 made up that scenario...i added an even more ludacris scenario.

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Chris Benoit w/ Eugene in corner vs. Triple H - World Heavyweight Championship

 

Drop Eugene and I can't wait for it.

 

Undertaker w/ Paul Heyman vs. Eddie Guerrero -- WWE Title/Casket Match

 

Awesome. I never really liked casket matches, but whatever.

 

Shawn Micheals vs. Kane -- streetfight

 

Interesting new match, Shawn wins of course.

 

Rob Van Dam vs. Booker T -- U.S. Title

 

OMG, one of them will finally have a singles title again, WOO!

 

Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. Christian -- Intercontinental Title

 

I hate triple threat matches and Shelton should be against Randy in a 2 out of 3 falls match.

 

John Cena vs. Kurt Angle

 

I liked their match from No Mercy, this time Kurt will be putting John over.

 

Edge vs. Shelton Benjamin

 

Shelton should be replaced by Chris Jericho. Edge / Y2J never did happen on an American PPV.

 

Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero -- Cruiserweight Title

 

Makes sense although they should just let this match happen at the GAB and then let Mysterio face somebody else at SS.

 

Dudleys vs. Hardyz (assuming Jeff is cleared to return) -- Interpromotional Tag Team Match

 

DUD, sorry I just hated this endless feud back in 2001.

 

Other than Trips/Benoit, that card looks shit.

 

Its already better than last year's.

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Chris Benoit w/ Eugene in corner vs. Triple H - World Heavyweight Championship

Either Benoit wins or Eugene costs him the match. The good news is that Benoit is protected either way.

 

Undertaker w/ Paul Heyman vs. Eddie Guerrero -- WWE Title/Casket Match

Undertaker is too much of a part-time player now to be WWE Champion and it would be a mistake putting the title on him. This match could be okay, but only if Eddy pulls it out.

 

Shawn Micheals vs. Kane -- streetfight

Probably the most pointless match on the card. Kane was red-hot this time last year, but now is simply stale. And he's the better off of the two. Shawn's been boring since 1998. It won't be bad, but it will be boring as hell.

 

Rob Van Dam vs. Booker T -- U.S. Title

Assuming Rob is even still with the company by this point.

 

Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. Christian -- Intercontinental Title

Orton is better than RVD, and it won't get as much time, but Christian is not the world's best worker and he will be coming off a back injury if he's even healthy. Jericho/Orton is much more interesting than having Christian in there.

 

John Cena vs. Kurt Angle

Angle's done. I know it, you know it, his doctors know it, but for some reason he can't take the hint. He's still a great wrestler, but his matches just aren't as enjoyable when you are worried that his next big bump could be his last.

 

Edge vs. Shelton Benjamin

Good enough for me. I could even see this being for the IC Title.

 

Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero -- Cruiserweight Title

Should be good, but on this card it will be lucky to get more than 5 minutes. Also, the loss of Chavo Classic has put a dent in Chavo's popularity.

 

Dudleys vs. Hardyz (assuming Jeff is cleared to return) -- Interpromotional Tag Team Match

He won't be. Lets move on. It is very apparent by now that Edge & Christian were the strong point of the three way feud in 2000 anyways.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing humorous Angle back.

 

Yeah, that feud with Edge in 2002 over hair was classic. [/sarcasm]

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I wouldn't mind seeing humorous Angle back.

 

Yeah, that feud with Edge in 2002 over hair was classic. [/sarcasm]

Someone famous once said "Look Like the Innocent Flower, but be the serpent under it"

 

As is often the case with things I say and do here and in real life, all may not exactly be what it seems with that line.

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I really don't like where this card could lead us for the fall. I might completely stop watching if HHH/Taker take us into September as the Champs.

 

Also I imagine HBK's going to go back into a feud with Triple H once he's done finishing off Kane's credibility and once Triple H gets the belt back from Benoit.

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I've got mixed feelings about this. Why wouldn't Shelton be in the IC match? Hasn't Jericho moved forward from the IC division? Why not pair him with heel Edge to help Edge get over as a heel? Orton doesn't need the help anymore, and I think Christian's gotten more than enough help. Quite frankly, I don't want to see Christian and Jericho in the same ring together for a long time. Overkill much?

 

Another thing: Would Christian be even healthy at that point?

 

I'm glad that HHH/Benoit will be blown off at Summerslam. It should be a good match and the champ coming out of the match will have plenty 'o feuds. HHH would have Jericho, Benjamin and Benoit would have Orton, heel Edge.

 

On the Smackdown side, I'm actually glad it'd be Eddie/Undertaker because at least people will care about it.

 

Cena/Angle? So Cena drops the belt to Booker or RVD? Isn't it sort of funny how people though Booker and RVD would be in the main events on Smackdown, but they're fighting for the US belt. On the otherhand though, the US belt is held in higher regard than the IC belt was when those two were fighting for it.

 

I'm begging for another cruiserweight match either than Rey vs. Chavo that doesn't involve any ridiculous opponents. It should be a solid match, but, yet again, feud overkill.

 

See, I don't mind if Jeff Hardy comes back, but do him and Matt really have to team? Can't they just be allies and not a tag team? Please?

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Guest Ray
When did Meltzer say this?

I'll repeat that request.

 

When did Meltzer say this? What does he base this on?

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