Guest Cerebus Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 Nobody was interested in this war just because Saddam maybe coulda woulda have something that fits in the non-typical term of WMDs Sarin doesn't fit in the non-typical term of WMD? Mustard Gas? VX? Tabuin? Alfatoxinn? Ricin? What does? A 50 Megaton bomb? A 100 Megaton bomb? Don't get me wrong. I think the term "Weapons of Mass Destruction" is an amazingly stupid term used for political purposes. But come on. All but the blindest person would see that Sarin is a WMD. People were interested in it because Bush had us thinking he could launch an A-Bomb across the ocean in 3 days. You can sit and say "but this is WMD too!" but you simply cannot deny this. Uh did he? Well it doesn't matter. What do we care if he could only gas his own people, other brown skinned ay-rabs, or Jews? He couldn't attack us. That's the important thing.
Guest Riots bloodlust Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 It seems that the point has been lost that the WMD disarming by Iraq was intended to be an entirely transparent action. Everyone was supposed to know exactly how much was there, and have verifyable evidence of the destruction and/or safe disposal of all weapon material AND manufacturing equipment. Saddam didn't do this, and it wsa like him spitting in the face of the international community, and everyone's reaction seemed to always be "Ok, THIS is your last chance. And this time, we REALLY mean it". Having the infrastructure remain to re-institute a WMD program is exactly as bad as having remaining weapon agents, as well as WMD specific munitions. As far as I am concerned, a single sarin loaded binary mortar shell is just as damning as a warehouse full of anthrax with a big neon sign on the roof reading "Bad stuff in here". All of it should have been gone by now. Additionally, from what I understand, other items have been recovered indicating an effort by Saddam to hold onto the infrastructure of his program so that he could re-instate it at some point. (Note: I don't have a source for that, so feel free to disregard that if you would like) Any or all of this, IMHO justifies the WMD side of the argument for war. But that's just my opinion.
Jobber of the Week Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 All but the blindest person would see that Sarin is a WMD. But look at the context. Boy oh boy! These old shell containers were definitely worth 850+ dead Americans, 3000+ wounded, and $200,000,000,000 of our money! I don't know about you, but I'm feeling safer already. I mean, Iraq hasn't launched another attack on our country since!
Guest Cerebus Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 All but the blindest person would see that Sarin is a WMD. But look at the context. Boy oh boy! These old shell containers were definitely worth 850+ dead Americans, 3000+ wounded, and $200,000,000,000 of our money! I don't know about you, but I'm feeling safer already. I mean, Iraq hasn't launched another attack on our country since! Yeah I said that one sarin gas shell is why I went to war. Those were my exact words. Yup. Can't deny it. Have you read ONE FUCKING THING I'VE WRITTEN? That sarin gas shell was from a weapons project completely unknown to UNSCOM, UNMOVIC, or the ISG. But that doesn't matter does it? As long as you masturbate to the fact that we havn't found a big-ass storehouse of NBCRs (which NEVER existed and is not what they're looking for) you're not even worth discussing this topic with.
Jobber of the Week Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 You didn't get what I said. Are these WMDs? A case can be made for that. Does this really justify all the work we've done so far? Oh, come ON.
Vanhalen Posted July 7, 2004 Report Posted July 7, 2004 Can I just say, the prime minister of the UK Blair says we have found no weapons of mass distruction at all, I would rather take that word than the word of some obscure news site(which most people take as the gospel truth)
Guest MikeSC Posted July 7, 2004 Report Posted July 7, 2004 Can I just say, the prime minister of the UK Blair says we have found no weapons of mass distruction at all, I would rather take that word than the word of some obscure news site(which most people take as the gospel truth) The CBC is "obscure"? Anti-American to be sure, but "obscure"? -=Mike
Guest INXS Posted July 8, 2004 Report Posted July 8, 2004 I've never heard of this "CBC", so yeah, an obscure news source.
Guest MikeSC Posted July 8, 2004 Report Posted July 8, 2004 I've never heard of this "CBC", so yeah, an obscure news source. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Tiny little outfit that supplies news to ALL of Canada. You know, like a Canadian BBC. -=Mike
kkktookmybabyaway Posted July 8, 2004 Report Posted July 8, 2004 The B-B-What? And who are these people?...
Guest INXS Posted July 8, 2004 Report Posted July 8, 2004 Ah, thanks for enlightening me Mike. As I wasn't aware of their existance I think that makes them pretty obscure to me....it's not like they are a BBC, FOX (heh), CNN, ABC or SKY.
Vanhalen Posted July 9, 2004 Report Posted July 9, 2004 I should have rephrased that, I meant obscure, because I dont watch it and it isnt carried in this country, so its obscure to me.
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