The Phillies - Someone Make Me Feel Better

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Because, unless they make some trades, I can't see them making the playoffs. Hell, I could see them finishing 3rd behind Florida & New York.

 

As it stands right now, roughly 1/2 the lineup can't hit (Lieberthal & Polanco swing at the 1st pitch EVERY TIME), and there's exactly *1* starting pitcher I have any kind of confidence in (Wolf). They need a CF, and at least 1 more starter, either through trade or call up. If the Phillies don't make any moves before the trading deadline, they're officially DOA.

 

Somebody please tell me I'm just Anglesaultian overreacting. Right now, they're getting smoked by the Mets 10-0.

[therealworldschampion 0]

I would have confidence that they would go out and make some moves, but then I remember Ed Wade's great deadline deals last year. *sarcasm*

[treble 0]

I'm looking at the Blue Jays record and comparing it to the Phillies record and I'm jealous.

 

They're worse than the fucking DEVIL RAYS!

[the pinjockey 0]

The only thing I would disagree with is that they NEED a CF. I think they may end up having to address the CF situation, but for now Michaels deserves a shot full time. They definitely need at least one starter or a big time bullpen arm to allow Madson to move into the rotation.

 

First thing I would do is call up Boston and see if they do the Millwood for Lowe deal that has been thrown around. With Lowe's 3+ Groundball/Flyball ration, he could help quell the HR numbers at CBP. This gives them a few million to do something else.

 

Trade Ryan Howard for whatever the hell I can get for him. I am tired of the Phillies holding onto their prospects for so long they end up depriciating in value. Find a taker for Howard and get a pitcher to help out now. If you get a good reliever for him, then move Madson to the rotation. If a starter, then Madson can stay in the pen.

 

I'd also see if I could get a pitcher for Polanco. If Polanco can bring me some pitching help, I move him and then get Utley into the lineup permanently.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Because, unless they make some trades, I can't see them making the playoffs. Hell, I could see them finishing 3rd behind Florida & New York.

 

As it stands right now, roughly 1/2 the lineup can't hit (Lieberthal & Polanco swing at the 1st pitch EVERY TIME), and there's exactly *1* starting pitcher I have any kind of confidence in (Wolf). They need a CF, and at least 1 more starter, either through trade or call up. If the Phillies don't make any moves before the trading deadline, they're officially DOA.

 

Somebody please tell me I'm just Anglesaultian overreacting. Right now, they're getting smoked by the Mets 10-0.

It's just one game. All teams look bad at some point during the season.

 

For the lineup, I still have confidence in Byrd, although its wavering. I think Michaels/Ledee makes an adequate platoon, so that's not all bad.

 

The rotation has Millwood, who should rebound. Wolf is good, and Milton keeps winning games. We could get Padilla back next month, and the Phillies can always move Ryan Madson into the rotation.

 

The Phillies are struggling right now, but it happens. I would consider a trade, but I wouldn't mortgage the farm for it. There's honestly not much available that would help the Phillies.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

First thing I would do is call up Boston and see if they do the Millwood for Lowe deal that has been thrown around. With Lowe's 3+ Groundball/Flyball ration, he could help quell the HR numbers at CBP. This gives them a few million to do something else.

 

Hell no. I wouldn't take Lowe for the waiver price.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Forgot about Milton. I have confidence in him, but his problem is he doesn't go far into the game. Has he pitched past 7 innings yet?

 

Millwood? I dunno. He folded down the stretch last year, so he's gotta prove he's not going to do it again this year. He hasn't exactly been tearing it up lately, either.

 

I've got no confidence in Byrd. I'm not seeing what you still see in him. Supposedly he's been doing good at Scranton, but if he's still having problems after a week of being called back up, then he's toast. Michaels/Ledee is OK, but if they can get a decent full-time CF, they've gotta do it.

 

I wouldn't trade either of the 2 arms, but there's no reason they shouldn't be shopping Ryan Howard to everyone.

[the pinjockey 0]

But if you do a Lowe/Millwood deal now, you get an extra 3.5 mil to do something else for the rest of the year. If that extra money let's me get Paul Abbott out of the rotation, that makes the Lowe/Millwood deal look better to me. If they are serious about not adding any more payroll.

 

Plus, I am just sick of seeing Millwood pitching against Atlanta.

[the pinjockey 0]

All of the trade talk is irrelevant, however, as we know all Wade is going to do is trade a marginal minor leaguer for Mike Williams again.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

I've got no confidence in Byrd. I'm not seeing what you still see in him. Supposedly he's been doing good at Scranton, but if he's still having problems after a week of being called back up, then he's toast. Michaels/Ledee is OK, but if they can get a decent full-time CF, they've gotta do it.

 

The only guy remotely available is Steve Finley. I've always liked Byrd because he does most things well, and has an incredible work ethic. I don't know why he's struggling, but I do know he's better than Doug Glanville.

 

But if you do a Lowe/Millwood deal now, you get an extra 3.5 mil to do something else for the rest of the year. If that extra money let's me get Paul Abbott out of the rotation, that makes the Lowe/Millwood deal look better to me. If they are serious about not adding any more payroll.

 

What exactly would you do with $3.5 Million? There's nothing to do except sit on it, because the only players available are mediocre players with bad contracts. In the meantime, you've traded your mediocre pitcher for an outright bad one.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I'd take a shot at Finley, provided they don't ask for either of the 2 arms.

[the pinjockey 0]

Take the 3.5 million and try to set up a package for Livan Hernandez or use the money and trade for Eddie Guardado and move Madson to the rotation.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Take the 3.5 million and try to set up a package for Livan Hernandez or use the money and trade for Eddie Guardado and move Madson to the rotation.

 

No, no, no. First off, then you've got Livan for three years. We don't need that. Second, we don't need Guardado. We're going to pay $3.5 Million to get 30-40 innings from a set-up man? That's nonsense.

[the pinjockey 0]

What is wrong with Livan for three years at $20 mil (?). He is the workhorse they desperately need at this point.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Because they've got Myers, Wolf, Cole, Hamels and Padilla under control. They don't need to start collecting pitchers unless they're truly elite.

[the pinjockey 0]

But Hernandez only goes through 2006. I can't picture any scenario where Cole Hamels is in the majors by 2007, especially with the injuries costing him this whole year basically.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

But Hernandez only goes through 2006. I can't picture any scenario where Cole Hamels is in the majors by 2007, especially with the injuries costing him this whole year basically.

 

Then find someone else. I just don't see Hernandez as the answer. He's good, but we don't NEED him. And besides, what the hell are we going to trade?

[strummer 0]

Somebody please tell me I'm just Anglesaultian overreacting. Right now, they're getting smoked by the Mets 10-0.

Don't worry Spiff, the Phils get to hit against Matt Ginter tomorrow. This guy has gotten SMOKED his last 4 or 5 starts and he is helping Scott Erickson get an actual job on a Major League roster. I haven't seen the Mets hit like this in a long, long time (maybe ever). Obviously it won't last, as some of their hitters (Wigginton + Hidalgo especially) are playing over their heads. The pitching continues to be solid, but with Ginter going tomorrow, it's like giving the game to the Phils. Hopefully if he has a bad outing tomorrow, he is removed from the rotation. I'd give Erickson a shot over Ginter, he's just that bad.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

So, if Bowa gets canned, would he be a good manager for Kansas City?

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Trust me, you don't want him.

 

I'd like to see Larry Dierker managing the Phillies. He got a bum deal when the Astros fired him. He's done a good job, and he deserves another shot at managing.