Guest ArchoanJB Report post Posted July 17, 2004 already dead? I mean ever since the 3rd or so week the crowd heat has kinda just dropped off. With the Wed. PPV maybe being moved there, I don't think it'll be a good change, crowd heat wise. On Impact this week, the crowd just sat on their hands. If they go their for their Wed. shows too, the crowd will become even more lackluster to the product more than likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Marty2Hotty Report post Posted July 17, 2004 There is no longer anything else to be excited about. TNA hasn't given a big reason to care about any of the wrestlers. The exact same thing is going to happen to the Jeff Hardy thing. You don't give your wrestlers something intriguing to do on a weekly basis; and fill the shows up with clean pins on wrestling matches, it's not going to draw. The excitement of wrestling that happened 4-5 years ago is not there anymore either. What's the difference between impact and the PPV? They both give 10 minute matches... Why should anyone order the PPV? The reaction from impact is the enthusiasm of the masses. No-one cares anymore... It was hot the first week because it was wrestling with new stars. But doing the same thing week in and week out, bored them to tears, much like what TNA did to the Nashville crowd. It was more hotter when it was more edgy. It's so obvious what's wrong with the product. Straight oneonone wrestling just doesn't draw anymore. TNA is doing way too much of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Oh, fuck. MARTY'S here. Guys, be prepared to be told nonstop that TNA needs to become all about T&A. He does have some valid points usually, though. Marty, some ground rules for coming to TSM: 1. Do not act like your opinion is FACT. 2. Do not openly flame and flamebait any other poster. 3. The L-A-Z is formerly the D-R-E-Z from TNS, so toss my salad and peel my potato, ho~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted July 17, 2004 I've noticed the drop in enthusiam from the live crowds as well. Especially when comparing the shows to the heat from the first show. They need something new, and TNAW should be providing it. Instead they have to try to sell their weekly PPV's, which is taking away from developing Impact weekly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Marty2Hotty Report post Posted July 17, 2004 they can sell their pay per views and do an awesome unpredictable entertaining show too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Ultimate Fantasy Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Then again if most of matches are squashes, people who you don't know anything about, and Jeff Jarett (the supposed #1 Guy) making apearences with out wrestling I would be kind of bored. I mean you treat your show like heat, you get a crowd like heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Basically Impact will start looking like WCW Saturday Night soon. TNA big problem here is they don't have huge names which normally show up at the PPV regularly show up on Impact. TNA does have some good names but not a lot. So I say throw on some big names and lets have non-squshes for some of the matches and the crowd will be hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 1. Do not act like your opinion is FACT. Mr. Zsasz should be banned then. And isn't the Universal crowd just people who are at Universal studios? They probably don't pay for tickets and aren't even wrestling fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Marty2Hotty Report post Posted July 18, 2004 I don't think it's much to do with big names, it's how TNA is using their talent. Basically impact's "booking" is this: "Monty Brown pins Jobber in 4 minutes" "AMW beats 2 jobbers in 7 minutes" "Chris Sabin beats 3 X-Division guys in 9 minutes" They need someone, maybe Russo, to write the shows. There's no writing involved in the shows they are doing currently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 The show features the same thing every week, has no character development other than Jarrett, and does not mean anything when regarding the PPV. And that's just for the live crowd. Don't get me started on the commentary and endless PPV commercials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 It has good wrestling, I like good wrestling, so I watch it for wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade2kxx 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 I like iMPACT because it gives me wrestling... sure, it gives me endless commercials and too much Jeff Jarrett, but I watch iMPACT for the wrestling. I do think they need bigger names on it... I mean, why were The Naturals, the Elite Guard, AJ, D'Lo, and Team Canada ALL wrestling Dark Matches this week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magus 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 I do think they need bigger names on it... I mean, why were The Naturals, the Elite Guard, AJ, D'Lo, and Team Canada ALL wrestling Dark Matches this week? that, my friend, is the main reason Impact is getting so... dull. let main eventers wrestle on Impact, or even have a title match on there. i'm all for letting new guys shine (i was very impressed with Roderick Strong this week), but Impact should function more like RAW than Velocity. keep the good matches, but make the show more important. TNA's not at the level where they can afford to have a "B" show. Impact should be the weekly lead-in to the PPVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 It has good wrestling, I like good wrestling, so I watch it for wrestling. Yes it has good wrestling, but when you see practically the same matches every week, it gets tiresome. Plus, we're talking about the live crowd, not the broadcast of the show. If you go every week to watch, and you see Abyss or Monty Brown squash a jobber every week, you get tired of watching the squashes. If you see Jarrett talk every week, but don't get to see him wrestle, you get tired of it. They've at least varied the format some since starting, but they need to vary up the talent that they put on. Impact should function more like RAW than Velocity. keep the good matches, but make the show more important. TNA's not at the level where they can afford to have a "B" show. Impact should be the weekly lead-in to the PPVs. Which is exactly true. Even if the PPV's aren't the quality of WWE PPV's, you could at least consider Impact the Smackdown to TNA's RAW. Or the Thunder to their Nitro. Not their Heat or Worldwide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 The worst part of Impact is that they don't keep their lineup fresh. There are only so many times I can see a member of Team Canada in a match. They get ridiculous exposure on Impact. That and no character development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 It has good wrestling, I like good wrestling, so I watch it for wrestling. Yes it has good wrestling, but when you see practically the same matches every week, it gets tiresome. Plus, we're talking about the live crowd, not the broadcast of the show. If you go every week to watch, and you see Abyss or Monty Brown squash a jobber every week, you get tired of watching the squashes. If you see Jarrett talk every week, but don't get to see him wrestle, you get tired of it. They've at least varied the format some since starting, but they need to vary up the talent that they put on. I see what you are saying, but I don't mind seeing AJ Stlyes or Team Canada wrestle ever week. Which guy on TC does the flip piledriver? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Petey Williams. And Team Canada would be so much better if it had its original lineup of Teddy Hart, Jack Evans, Petey Williams, and Johnny motherfucking Devine. As it is now, with Williams, Devine, Eric Young, and Bobby Rude? Suck-diddly-ucks. Williams is bland and his finisher is more contrived than an SAT spot, Rude is boring as shit, Eric Young botches more than he connects with, and Devine is left out of everything when he's the one that knows how to work a match the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Rude is one of my favorite wresters in TNAW right now. There's just something about him. I like him for the same reasons that I like Rob Conway. He doesn't do anything outside of basic moves, but the basic moves that he does, he performs flawlessly. That's why he's better than people like Amazing Red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 19, 2004 I see what you are saying, but I don't mind seeing AJ Stlyes or Team Canada wrestle ever week. Which guy on TC does the flip piledriver? They can kill the guys doing that thing. Lord knows the luchas in WCW received no benefits from working tons of pointless matches. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
