Workrate

[Ravenbomb 0]

Like the title says. What exactly is workrate?

[Guest Bushido]

It's that special feeling you get when you hold hands with your best gal!

 

It's cheering real loud for the home team!

 

It's catching the perfect wave!

 

It's obeying all the rules!.......NO WAY!

[The Mandarin 0]

It's a crazy word made up by puro fans so they can pretend their matches are better than ours.

 

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Please don't hunt me down.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

It's a crazy word made up by puro fans so they can pretend their matches are better than ours.

 

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Please don't hunt me down.

Because you know.....you saying that NA ones are better is pretty justified, huh?

 

Workrate is a very general term that people use to describe how wrestlers in a match interact with each other(wrestling wise, not personally). By this I am refering to storytelling, move originality, selling, bumping, fluid delivery of moves, popping the crowd with maneuvers, and grappling.

 

That is the best I can come up with for such a general term.

[Guest Paul H.]

The emphasis on workrate/wrestling is what's keeping the business down.I know,...I know i just started some shit didn't i?

[Internet Warfare 0]

It's a crazy word made up by puro fans so they can pretend their matches are better than ours.

 

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Please don't hunt me down.

Because you know.....you saying that NA ones are better is pretty justified, huh?

 

Workrate is a very general term that people use to describe how wrestlers in a match interact with each other(wrestling wise, not personally). By this I am refering to storytelling, move originality, selling, bumping, fluid delivery of moves, popping the crowd with maneuvers, and grappling.

 

That is the best I can come up with for such a general term.

Hmm, I always thought workrate was the effort one put in into his/her matches even if he/she isnt that great in the ring.

[Guest Ray]

Workrate refers to stamina and athleticism. A big lug who gets blown up and resorts to restholds has poor workrate. A fine athlete who can go for 20 minutes without stopping has graet workrate.

 

Storytelling, selling, execution...all seperate from workrate.

 

Workrate is the RATE of WORK.

[Guest Staravenger]

For example: Sid Vicious was a terrible worker. He resorted to mainly weak punches, kicks, and chinlocks.

 

Bret Hart is a good example of a wrestler with good workrate. Unless he's in serious dogging mode, he can go for as long as he wants without resorting to chinlocks and serious rest holds.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Dean Malenko = workrate

 

watch him, he explains it all

[Guest ally mccoist]

I love how someone asked for an explanation of an often used word by smarks and you get several differing explanations. Makes you think a lot of people just use the word with no understanding of it. I always thought it meant effort put into matches like Warfare said.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I love how someone asked for an explanation of an often used word by smarks and you get several differing explanations. Makes you think a lot of people just use the word with no understanding of it. I always thought it meant effort put into matches like Warfare said.

Ray's answer is the correct one. Generally speaking, you do two things in a match, work (action, it doesn't necessarily mean holds but anything which doesn't involve the next type) or rest (restholds, double KO spots, stall, etc.). When there is a lot of the former and a limit on the latter, a match is said to have good workrate. A wrestler who uses a lot of restholds and stalling (ex. Christian) is said to be a poor worker. The opposites are also true.

 

High workrate makes wrestlers exciting, but it isn't the end all of wrestling because it doesn't depend just on wrestling. Benoit & Angle chain-wrestling for 10 minutes is working, but so is Mick & HHH slugging each other. RVD is a terrible wrestler, but he has a high workrate. William Regal is a good wrestler, but his workrate isn't that high. For the most part though, a high-level of workrate is a good thing.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Okay, so it has nothing to do with talent, just...I guess effort is the word?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Okay, so it has nothing to do with talent, just...I guess effort is the word?

Not quite. Athleticism or talent is a big part of it, not just effort. A talented athlete like Kurt Angle is going be able to have a higher workrate than someone like Big Show, no matter what the effort is. Big Show just can't physically wrestle a long time without spending a lot of time resting.

[Ravenbomb 0]

okay, so effort and stamina?

[BHK 0]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...define:Workrate

 

The most common defenition on that page:

 

The approximate ration of good wrestling to rest holds in a match or in a wrestler's performance.

 

I'd say that's about right. I'd also agree with Raty's defenition, it's how much you WORK.

 

For example, Benoit, everyone knows how Benoit wrestles and his pacing etc. he would have a good work rate. on the other hand, someone like, say, Nathan Jones. Who was primarily punch.kick.powermove. rest hold. That's not putting much work and thought into your matches, now is it?

 

Basically, it's like people that work hard or are lazy in the ring. Benoit works hard/ Someone like Nathan Jones, however, although he DOES work, it's not very GOOD work. He goes thorugh the motions. hence why the term literally measures the RATE of your work.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Kay. Thanks

[Guest Loss]

The problem is that sometimes, rest holds are called rest holds when they really aren't rest holds. I'd define a move done without any logical reason or intent, just to give the wrestlers a chance to catch a breather, as a rest hold. Chinlocks and headlocks can play logically into a match. I've seen Chris Benoit construct entire matches around either a chinlock or a sleeperhold, using the move as a centerpiece to tie everything together. That's not a lack of workrate because it serves a purpose in the match.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Workrate = rate of work or effort

 

That's how I've always defined it. As for big guys it takes more energy and work for them to move around so even if they're slower or not appearing to work as hard they can be working just as hard or even harder than their lighter counterparts.

[Guest Paul H.]

Well then alot of people just throw that term around cuz I've always thought it meant the level of wrestler he was,his talent lavel and the level of the match.

[Guest Staravenger]

Hogan/Warrior from WM VI had several rest holds because Warrior was blown up after like 5 minutes. Thank God at least Hogan made the rest-holds look good.

[Guest Ray]

Well then alot of people just throw that term around cuz I've always thought it meant the level of wrestler he was,his talent lavel and the level of the match.

People do throw it around too much. I find it to be one of the most misused/overused words on the 'net.

 

It shouldn't be used as a blanket term to describe the general quality of a match.

[Ace309 0]

"Workrate" is the measure used to describe how much more you like one wrestler than another.

[Guest deadbeater]

Workrate is the ratio of moves made and sold during the match over rest time used during the match. Crowd approval is a factor.

 

Rey Mysterio and Minami Toyota have the highest workrate.

 

Plods have just abut the lowest.