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[Guest Flyboy]

This match will be Big Boot, Leg Drop... over.

 

Maybe a UT run-in at the end.

I spoke too soon.

[Guest HartFan86]

OMG, Hogan's no-selling EVERYTHING and if  you didnt' see the blade in Hogan's hand...your stupid.

[Guest Special K]

UT under the table would have made me laugh.

 

JR: "Dammit why does he presume he wants milk?"

 

Shit JR, I'm sure, being the consummate wrestler, he's been studying tapes.

 

Hogan, at this point is pretty sad. And after sticking up for his pop on SD!, I think they actually did pump in chants, and loop footage of fans standing on their feet, 'cause he got an average pop, and people weren't exactly fervent in their Hulkamania.

[Guest HartFan86]

I'll give Hogan credit...he did a MANLY bladejob.

[Guest Risk]

MY GAWD!  MY GAWD!  HE SPIT THE TEA IN REGAL'S FACE!  DAMN THAT HEELISH SON OF A BITCH!

[Guest Will Scarlet]

Well, this beatdown has gone on for awhile.  At least Regal did not have to job.  I actually enjoyed his segments today for the first time in awhile.

[Guest treble charged]

This is great, 2 weeks in a row with a sportz-entertainment finish.  At least have Taker destroy Regal and put Hogan's arm over him to have SOME ending to the match.

[Guest razazteca]

that did not take long

 

wow Hogan blades again

[Guest HartFan86]

Raw Ends, Hogan's  dead, Taker's  got  the title, BORING.  Raw = SHIT

[Guest Risk]

Maybe he'll crucify him on his cros..uhh...symbol.  Then Hogan can return in three days(Smackdown!)appearing to be perfectly fine.  Heh.

[Guest]

Damn, he was bleeding like a stuck hog!

 

Okay, the beatdown being long was good because it showed that hulking up WILL NOT beat the Undertaker.

[Guest Special K]

Indeed, props to Hogan for that bladejob. i want to know what he was visibly saying to Hogan though! What do you say when you're 'unconscious' on the mat covered in blood? "Go away taker, I'm bleeding myself dry now?" "Your wife makes excellent mashed potaotes, Mark?" Really, I sort of want to know!

[Guest El Satanico]

argh...they have to stop making Undertaker out as a hellish monster bent on destroying people and then playing "Rollin".

[Guest Risk]

Yeah.  Fred Durst is VERY hellish.  Heh.

[Guest razazteca]

Mudvaynes "Dig" would be a better theme song for UT.  Its a heelish song with anger and about death, its perfect for Mean Mark.

[Guest Special K]

As so many of us have said, though, looks like they really jumped the gun on the red n' yellow. holly wood was over, and they could have left at least a little bit of that character in hogan. Looks like another anemic Hogan run though. People just cannot care about that character anymore, and I can't really blame them. Comes out so cloying.

[Guest Risk]

Hogan's skin is RAW sucked tonight.

 

Guess I'll only watch Smack"mybitch"Down! only for the Jericho-Hogan match.

[Guest Max Danger]

OMG, Hogan's no-selling EVERYTHING and if  you didnt' see the blade in Hogan's hand...your stupid.

I guess I'm stupid then, because I didn't see it.  Then again I was more interested in doodling on a piece of paper while I connected to the internet than the end of Raw, so ya know.

 

I hate, so very much, the WWF(minus Jericho of course).

[Guest TheMikeSC]

Mudvaynes "Dig" would be a better theme song for UT.  Its a heelish song with anger and about death, its perfect for Mean Mark. >>>

 

 

How 'bout "With Arms Wide Open" by Creed?

 

God knows I boo whenever I hear it---and it inspires violence in me.

                                  -=Mike

 

...You can also fill in anything by Nickelback.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I too was angry that JR didn't even mention Thesz dying when Austin did the Thesz Press.  I'm not gonna boycott or anything but it was...sad.

 

During that UT interview why in the hell did they not show the Survivor Series 91 footage?  I mean, I was waiting for it but it just never came.  Showing UT beat Hogan (with Flair's chair assisting by the way) might create some intrigue for the PPV and also put a thought in Hogan's mind that Flair might screw him over again.

 

Eddie/Jeff was pretty decent tonight.  But how sad is it that aside from the Lesnar squash the RVD/Booker match got the least amount of time?  These people have a twisted world perspective.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I laughed my ass off all RAW long. A lot of the promos were really unspecial, especially UT's which was just boring as fuck. I was face down on my bed, beating the side of it until Hogan came out. I was trying not to change the channel. The NWO/Austin/Bradshaw match was made watchable by X-Pac's bumping.

[Guest KOR420]

I was there at RAW and the ending was great,I hate Taker but I hate Hogan even more!!!! Flair is so nWo,he can't act for shit,but for the most part I enjoyed the show

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

Did Hogan hulk up and drink beers again?

[Guest papacita]

For some reason the board wouldn't let me post this, so I'm gonna just say that this was in response to a comment on the Lou Thesz thing:

 

Actually, maybe it's just cuz I was expecting him to say it, but I kinda got the feeling Ross wanted to mention Thesz. I dunno if anybody else noticed this, but I kinda heard like a slight hesitation in his voice or something, like he either wanted to mention Lou Thesz or not call the move at all. I really don't think he meant any harm by it...and actually, I found it more disturbing when for the Dark Angel promo he said "This Friday night, watch the episode of Dark Angel where Lita broke her neck." I've never been a Lita fan, but damn that was insensative. Anyway, they didn't mention Helen Hart's death on WWF TV so I really don't know why anyone would be so surprised for them not to mention Lou Thesz.

 

As far as Survivor Series 91 footage, yeah I was waiting for that too. They showed Tuesday in Texas for God's sake, why not that? One thing that's been pissing me off about the WWF for the last few years is that they almost never play up on old history, and when they do they put a spin on it that had almost nothing to do with the original storyline, but fits the current storyline perfectly...(if you don't know what I'm saying, don't feel bad cuz I just confused myself. lol). One thing I wish they would remember is that not every fan has been watching for less than 6 months. BTW...should I have marked out for Taker calling Hogan a bitch? Cuz I did.

 

Other random comments...I was getting a weird vibe from this Raw. Kinda like a mixture of the 1989-1991 WWF era and 1998-2001 era all rolled into one show...and it sucked. This was the most boring Raw I've seen in a long time. That's pretty much all I've gotta say.

[Guest TheHulkster]

I think some people bitch just to hear themself bitch or to try and look "cool" to the other people who bitch just to hear themselves bitch. I thought it was a pretty decent raw and I was entertained for the most part. There were some rough spots (the in ring promos, the ending), but the good outweighed the bad. Some people talk about how terrible Raw is and how they would prefer to watch something else, yet come back a little while later and post more about Raw. I don't really understand it. What do some of you really want out of the show? Do you want to sit back and watch a show that can be pretty entertaining for the most part or are you watching the show waiting for something deeper that you know deep down inside will never really be there?

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I think some people bitch just to hear themself bitch or to try and look "cool" to the other people who bitch just to hear themselves bitch.

 

Now, are you bitching about people who bitch to hear themselves bitch because you want to hear yourself bitch about people who bitch to hear themsleves bitch or trying to look "cool" to the other people who bitch to hear themselves bitch about people who bitch to hear themselves bitch? Put on your helmet and think about that one brother!

[Guest TheHulkster]

Bitching about people bitching can be fun. You're just jealous because you want a fist helmet of your very own lol

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

What's more fun than that is posing questions that confuse the shit out of you when you are trying to type them.

[Guest Redhawk]

I actually liked Taker's promo. He told a story, and the promo had a beginning that led to an end. I don't see what's wrong with an extended promo to build up the PPV match. Especially in this particular situation, where they'd better build a compelling storyline, because the match is going to suck. I thought Taker's promo had the right amount of intensity, and the staredown with Hogan wasn't like those goofy Rock-Hogan staredowns where they're looking around so people can chant.

[Guest JHawk]

Actually, maybe it's just cuz I was expecting him to say it, but I kinda got the feeling Ross wanted to mention Thesz. I dunno if anybody else noticed this, but I kinda heard like a slight hesitation in his voice or something, like he either wanted to mention Lou Thesz or not call the move at all.

 

Actually, I kind of had that sense myself.  After Austin hit that move, there was a hesitation from Ross to the point where I almost yelled at the TV "Call it a Thesz press, dammit!"  He finally did and his voice seemed shaky.