Michrome 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 His fault for being an idiot. Yeah, what a moron! He gets to do what he loves to do, go all out in matches, work in front of people that love his work, and he makes significantly more money than he made in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted August 19, 2004 So, wait...how is London not being used right? He's a cruiserweight with spfify spots and can tell a great story when with a great opponent, but doesn't seem to have much charisma. I, personally, don't like London because his moves seem to be hit with all the stiffness of a feather. I was just speaking in general, as I'm not a huge London fan either. I totally agree that he is a light hand. However, if those are the guys you are comparing to AJ, it's not exactly like they are Main Eventing (or ever will). AJ will always ME in TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 19, 2004 His fault for being an idiot. Yeah, what a moron! He gets to do what he loves to do, go all out in matches, work in front of people that love his work, and he makes significantly more money than he made in WWE. He could've made more if he stuck around. Some people take this business WAY too seriously. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BottleRocket Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Yep. That match I believe was AJ vs. Shark Boy vs. Nova vs. Low-Ki vs. Kid Romeo vs. Elix Skipper. I don't think Romeo or Skipper wrestled at the WWA PPV in Vegas. I believe it was actually AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Vs. Nova Vs. Low-Ki Vs. Shark Boy Vs. Tony Mamaluke. If memory serves me, it was an elimination match that Nova ultimately won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 AJ being more charismatic than London is beyond the pale. Go watch their ROH teaming up and interactions together, as well as the way London is able to rally the crowd behind him. He does it through facials and great charisma, whereas AJ's big pops come from things like Pele Kicks and Quebrada DDT's. He also could do it because of the way the match is laid out, his good selling, and the fact that RoH fans tend to get behind whoever works a decent match. whereas AJ's big pops come from things like Pele Kicks and Quebrada DDT's. That, and well-timed comebacks, moves that look damn fine, and his overall selling of each move during a match. When it comes to stiffness, WWE has none of it. If AJ came in, he would be forced to tone it down dramatically. WWE has no stiffness? Isn't this the same company that refused to push Ultimo Dragon because his moves looked TOO weak? That's how I feel about London. London has far better arm strikes than AJ, his forearms are really stiff. AJ has the better kicks. I think the only things London does better than AJ are the SSP and forearms. The spiffy spots are really just being used to try to get a pop from the crowd for the short time he's out there, since he has no opportunity to do anything more, not that he SHOULD...just that he doesn't. No argument here. Put AJ in the same role, and he'd be doing his dumbass moves like the Kip-up rana, the Quebrada DDT, etc every time he got on TV. Well, yeah. They're called trademark moves. Every wrestler has a few moves they do in every match. That's a given. And, inversely? All London does is HIS trademark moves. Oh, but wait, isn't that the same thing you just ragged on AJ for doing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2004 He also could do it because of the way the match is laid out, his good selling, and the fact that RoH fans tend to get behind whoever works a decent match. Well, it's telling when you compare London underdog matches to AJ ones in ROH. The best example for AJ bombing is 2/14, where he is absolutely awful in his role and pretty much ruins the entire tournament with horrible selling and his inability to connect with the crowd beyond cool looking moves. That, and well-timed comebacks, moves that look damn fine, and his overall selling of each move during a match. Pimping AJ's "overall selling" is laughable. Even in his best matches he usually has one or 2 eyeroll selling goofs. WWE has no stiffness? Isn't this the same company that refused to push Ultimo Dragon because his moves looked TOO weak? That's how I feel about London. No, beyond chops there is pretty much no stiffness in the WWE. I think the only things London does better than AJ are the SSP and forearms. How about selling, staying focused in a match, not losing his head, never doing braindead things, and telling a story with his work. Well, yeah. They're called trademark moves. Every wrestler has a few moves they do in every match. That's a given. And, inversely? All London does is HIS trademark moves. Oh, but wait, isn't that the same thing you just ragged on AJ for doing? The point is, if you watch both of their matches near the end of their ROH tenures, they pretty much ditched the stupid moves like the nip up rana, quebrada DDT, and other contrived things. They'd use them really sparingly. AJ tends to ditch them too in IWA. In WWE and TNA, it's just a rush to get "interesting" spots in with the hope of getting over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2004 I guess we'll really have to agree to disagree then, because I can't get into London's work to the extent you can, considering it looks like he just kinda taps his opponents with his moves (aside from the forearms, which, I'll definitely agree on, are some of the best in the business). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
